RDFL Thread 2007

[Halffullonfence]

Chris Collins 8/10 - is getting the best from his playing group considering how badly they performed last year. Will continue to improve.


8/10 bit high for two wins Matt ??

 

[joeblow2]

Chris Collins 8/10 - is getting the best from his playing group considering how badly they performed last year. Will continue to improve.


8/10 bit high for two wins Matt ??

I guess you gotta be around the place to understand the difference he has made to it and appreciate that as an accurate rating. Collo is doing a super job with that side. There hasn't been a massive change in the personnel on the park week to week and this time last year we would have been smashed by the likes of Romsey, Sunbury and Diggers.

Understand where your coming from HFF, but Matty is spot on IMO. To keep this rating the team must continue to improve, however.

 

[Hawker28]

Didn't know this happened a 21st and 18th in the playing group but that's no excuse for no show should of at least made some sort of showing at after game.

Speaking of after game thanks to the umpire/s who cleaned their boots on the internal walls of the Tony Clarke complex. If you wan't respect show some.

the macedon boys seem to do it every week why do you think this halffullonthefence?

 

[blues12]

thank you pickles for the quick ratings good job...
what do you think of macedon not going into kilmores rooms after the game for a beer, only one player went in the rooms being azza christeanson. tad dissapointing, forgot about it last week.

Wait for the return game, dont hold any grudges do your normal thing and i will lay bets there will be more kilmore blokes in Macedons rooms. Damn shame to see so little players and coach not sticking around, it doesn't help any club.

 

[Spud26]

just wondering if i can get some information on Tim Mcdonald and how he is rated in the RDFL. heard some interesting argumants saturday night about him. 1. he wouldnt get a game at the kangaroos. 2. has put on some wait since he moved out with his fiance. can anyone help me with answers??????

 

[woody07]

I would have ben shattered about these comments hank, however just realised you follow Kyneton-never laughed so much in my life. If we have the worst league going around you have the worst club in Victoria at the moment. Anyway it wont be long before you become more intimate with our league, when your rabble is thrown out of the B.F.L to join us. Then we can have great pleasure in spanking that overrated tiger team you call a club. Good luck for the rest of the year Hanky!

 

[Mongrel]

Darrin Rowsell - 10/10 - perfect thus far

Mick Giddings - 9.5/10 - has done a magnificent job considering the players he has had missing.

Jarrod Dixon - 9/10 - depth got tested on Saturday, but no real faults.

Mark Dipietro and Darren Lingard - 6/10 - need to get more from their fringe players.

Terry Ahearn 7.5/10 - got the young side firing, needs to get wins against top-four sides in second half to improve his ranking.

Glen Hopkins 3.5/10 - hasn't got the players firing at all. needs to get better game plans and get his players inspired ... and fast!

Chris Collins 8/10 - is getting the best from his playing group considering how badly they performed last year. Will continue to improve.

Mark Greenshields 5/10 - It's a tough side to coach, not much flexibility in the ranks. But is looking at the job as a project, not a quick fix.

Gav Christeanson 5/10 - Lost a lot of players over summer, good wins against Lancefield and Melton Central though. Will be ruing the Rockbank loss and the thrashing at Kilmore.

Rockbank crew 5/10 - Considering Wayne Mackey left early days, the Rams are doing a good job. Have beaten Macedon, have been in touch with Kilmore, Sunbury Kangaroos and Woodend-Hesket at qtr time also.

the top 3 sides are all on the same wins.i beleive they all deserve the same ranking.yes the kangas got a spanking on the weekend,but they did defeat woodend,where riddell failed.but lets not get carried away,you take 3 out of your best onballers out of a game,u should get smashed.
obviously riddell are well ahead at this stage,but did anyone really expect sunbury to win with leigh mcinerny,mark mcinerny,dean helmers and steve boyd not playing?i doubt it

 

[Kings Army]

I have no doubt KA that Riddell would be 5 goals better off with James in the side... It would strengthen an already super football side.

I will always tip the Roos to win games KA, that is the club I am associated with. Riddell were superb on the weekend, but I know our boys can perform alot better than what they did on Saturday, and will do so...

113 points better?

 

[OMNIPOTENT_1]

the top 3 sides are all on the same wins.i beleive they all deserve the same ranking.yes the kangas got a spanking on the weekend,but they did defeat woodend,where riddell failed.but lets not get carried away,you take 3 out of your best onballers out of a game,u should get smashed.
obviously riddell are well ahead at this stage,but did anyone really expect sunbury to win with leigh mcinerny,mark mcinerny,dean helmers and steve boyd not playing?i doubt it

What happened to you pal you told me you could'nt wait to play & I was looking forward to having a round or two with you ?

 

[OMNIPOTENT_1]

thank you pickles for the quick ratings good job...
what do you think of macedon not going into kilmores rooms after the game for a beer, only one player went in the rooms being azza christeanson. tad dissapointing, forgot about it last week.

Macedon team arent allowed to drink until they reach 18 !

 

[Itsmyshow]

113 points better?

Certainly alot better than they did...

 

[Itsmyshow]

Macedon team arent allowed to drink until they reach 18 !

So so true...

 

[bromanbomber]

thank you pickles for the quick ratings good job...
what do you think of macedon not going into kilmores rooms after the game for a beer, only one player went in the rooms being azza christeanson. tad dissapointing, forgot about it last week.

Van, I see Tezza Ahern kicked a lazy 6 in the magoo's. Is he any chance of playing seniors again this year??

 

[Mongrel]

What happened to you pal you told me you could'nt wait to play & I was looking forward to having a round or two with you ?

came down with the flu on wednesday nite.probably perfect timing it would seem.i still cant beleive the result.lol.
anyway at least we will meet again later in the year.i will definately have a beer waiting for you and halffull

 

[Mongrel]

113 points better?

come on KA. you know as well as i do that helmers is worth more than 100 points alone with his good looks

 

[Harry Wilson]

Just worried about the local footy, very noble indeed howzat. Sounds to me like you have a little gripe with the kangas and have just rolled out that old chestnut to hide behind. You would be reasonably happy with todays result. Massive win by the bombers. Interesting call from Harry Wilson in regards to the coin that the tigers have thrown around, wouldn't mind getting Joeblows take on that. Riddell sitting out has been well documented over the years but I have known a few of the Lancefield boys and was under the impression that they sat out 1999 due to lack of numbers and lack of numbers only. You sound reasonably confident that wasn't the case Harry. Who are these Lancefield parasites you talk about?
What your take on this Pickles, your a Lancefield fella?

Crookknee,

Firstly, I didn't refer to any Lancefield parasites, nor did I refer to any coin they are throwing around at present. I was merely pointing out that there were some issues in regards to both Lancfield and Riddell having to close the doors the next year after obtaining success.

From the conversations I have been privvy to, it was my understanding that following the success of their GF win they simply ran out of coin and couldn't hold on to all of their players. I couldn't see any other reason for players leaving the club and it folding. Surely if players were there not for the coin, but for the love of the club, they wouldn't all of a sudden up and leave after winning a premiership?

To be perfectly honest, I was only a pup in the 18's when this occurred. In regards to who pays what for whichever player's services, I don't really care. All I know is that players come and go as does success, it's the players that play for the club for 10 years or so, that play 100+ games (seniors or reserves) and get paid a pittance for their services that make the club successful. Quite often you see high profile players come in and get paid the big bucks and deliver sweet F.A. This is what crushes the soul of clubs, because once the money dries up, so does the loyalty.

So all RDFL clubs, earn your money, save it, spend it, invest it, do what you will, if short term success is what you want, buy it. If long term standing and success is what you want, be patient, blood your kids, look after your faithfull and spend a little. Most of all, enjoy your club what ever your week end's results were.

(Wow, I got a little too deep for a Monday!! Sorry guys)

 

[Itsmyshow]

Crookknee,

Firstly, I didn't refer to any Lancefield parasites, nor did I refer to any coin they are throwing around at present. I was merely pointing out that there were some issues in regards to both Lancfield and Riddell having to close the doors the next year after obtaining success.

From the conversations I have been privvy to, it was my understanding that following the success of their GF win they simply ran out of coin and couldn't hold on to all of their players. I couldn't see any other reason for players leaving the club and it folding. Surely if players were there not for the coin, but for the love of the club, they wouldn't all of a sudden up and leave after winning a premiership?

To be perfectly honest, I was only a pup in the 18's when this occurred. In regards to who pays what for whichever player's services, I don't really care. All I know is that players come and go as does success, it's the players that play for the club for 10 years or so, that play 100+ games (seniors or reserves) and get paid a pittance for their services that make the club successful. Quite often you see high profile players come in and get paid the big bucks and deliver sweet F.A. This is what crushes the soul of clubs, because once the money dries up, so does the loyalty.

So all RDFL clubs, earn your money, save it, spend it, invest it, do what you will, if short term success is what you want, buy it. If long term standing and success is what you want, be patient, blood your kids, look after your faithfull and spend a little. Most of all, enjoy your club what ever your week end's results were.

(Wow, I got a little too deep for a Monday!! Sorry guys)

Very good post Harry... But its Tuesday....

 

[Harry Wilson]

I had the day off yesterday, obviously my mind is elswhere.
Thanks for the heads up IMS. Cheers.

 

[Halffullonfence]

the macedon boys seem to do it every week why do you think this halffullonthefence?

With most straight out of 18's don't think they know how to mix with opponents yet. Most still on P plates so when away double 00 hurts.
Remember 14 from last seasons seniors now not playing. No excuse club is trying to address it, agree it is a problem.
Any suggestions fellas.

 

[matt_nicholls]

With most straight out of 18's don't think they know how to mix with opponents yet. Most still on P plates so when away double 00 hurts.
Remember 14 from last seasons seniors now not playing. No excuse club is trying to address it, agree it is a problem.
Any suggestions fellas.

I don't like telling clubs how to run things, but perhaps Gav or yourself could say something after each game and make sure players get in there. If having the Centrals players come back was a good thing, make sure you remind them to return the favour. Sunbury Kangaroos had heaps back after the Lancefield game a fortnight ago. Really good atmosphere.

It's something that could improve from most clubs though, not just Macedon. Don't worry, the kids will get better, its just a bit of footy etiquette.

 

[Hawker28]

With most straight out of 18's don't think they know how to mix with opponents yet. Most still on P plates so when away double 00 hurts.
Remember 14 from last seasons seniors now not playing. No excuse club is trying to address it, agree it is a problem.
Any suggestions fellas.

maybe make it a team rule. explain it to the young fellas that its important for the club and that it may effect other clubs comin back to yours. surley 15 20 mins wouldnt hurt them.

 

[Halffullonfence]

maybe make it a team rule. explain it to the young fellas that its important for the club and that it may effect other clubs comin back to yours. surley 15 20 mins wouldnt hurt them.

Agree hawker.
Maybe some senior opponents target some of them after game (see you after game for a drink and chat) shouldn't have to happen but it is a problem these kids have to get over.

 

[B.O.G]

maybe make it a team rule. explain it to the young fellas that its important for the club and that it may effect other clubs comin back to yours. surley 15 20 mins wouldnt hurt them.

good thought hawker,
i wasnt sure if u read my last post to ypu y.day?

noticed a few changes in the team, a number of players in. did any of them hold their spot for next week as the players who were dropped looked like they were in the best for the 2's.

did notice dale cunik as BOG will he stepp straight back in?? what bout the other players?

 

[blues12]

With most straight out of 18's don't think they know how to mix with opponents yet. Most still on P plates so when away double 00 hurts.
Remember 14 from last seasons seniors now not playing. No excuse club is trying to address it, agree it is a problem.
Any suggestions fellas.

The most obvious one is that leaders should lead, the coach should be setting the example, i have seen it on a number of occasions that he just takes off. I'm sure all clubs dont just have alcohol at the bar after games.
At the Roos we have worked hard the past few years, to gain the repect of clubs by supporting them. all players must go in for at least 1 drink, soft drink, beer etc. sometimes they cant, but once the players start, the supporters follow.
Perhaps make it a club policy until the culture has changed, then it will just carry on from there.

 

[Crookknee]

Crookknee,

Firstly, I didn't refer to any Lancefield parasites, nor did I refer to any coin they are throwing around at present. I was merely pointing out that there were some issues in regards to both Lancfield and Riddell having to close the doors the next year after obtaining success.

From the conversations I have been privvy to, it was my understanding that following the success of their GF win they simply ran out of coin and couldn't hold on to all of their players. I couldn't see any other reason for players leaving the club and it folding. Surely if players were there not for the coin, but for the love of the club, they wouldn't all of a sudden up and leave after winning a premiership?

To be perfectly honest, I was only a pup in the 18's when this occurred. In regards to who pays what for whichever player's services, I don't really care. All I know is that players come and go as does success, it's the players that play for the club for 10 years or so, that play 100+ games (seniors or reserves) and get paid a pittance for their services that make the club successful. Quite often you see high profile players come in and get paid the big bucks and deliver sweet F.A. This is what crushes the soul of clubs, because once the money dries up, so does the loyalty.

So all RDFL clubs, earn your money, save it, spend it, invest it, do what you will, if short term success is what you want, buy it. If long term standing and success is what you want, be patient, blood your kids, look after your faithfull and spend a little. Most of all, enjoy your club what ever your week end's results were.

(Wow, I got a little too deep for a Monday!! Sorry guys)

I think you will find that the tiges won back to back in 95/6 and then had a couple of lean years in 97/8 before they folded for a year. But in saying that, I agree totally with your post. Clubs need make sure they are recruiting the right sort of blokes to play, fellas that will fit in with team rules and all that jazz. Blokes who are bigger than the club more often end up as a massive headache for all concerned. We can all point out where clubs have gone wrong in the past ie Lancefield and Riddell but give credit where credit is due. The last five grand finals have been contested by at least one of those two and If memory serves the last 3 premierships has seen Riddell win 2 and Lancefield 1.