RDFL Thread 2008

[George 08]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

Melton / Woodend game.

Melton definately had their chances to take this game by the scruff of the neck. Had two or three chances in the dying minutes to snatch the game but failed to deliver.

The crowd was unbelievable! Imagine Mac Park main ground full. Great atmosphere, im sure the boys would have enjoyed playing in front of them. Big Darko umpired the reserves game (new job?) Did a great job too!

Will throw this out though, very disappointing to see only a hand full of Woodends senior players join the Melton boys after the game. Big Congrats to their coach, their commitee, Ng and a few other players I didn't recognise. My apologies. I understand that blokes might have things on afterwards but not a whole team!! No more than 15 blokes from Woodend (mostly commitee) were there. Fantastic to you blokes who had a beer/water but for the others who didn't... poor form

 

[Number 16]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

Riddell V Macedon Seconds was some of the best 2nds football i've seen. Both teams clearly wanted to win and showed many players pushing for senior selection. Macedon's first 10-15mins was their main let down with Riddell taking advantage of the Cats still brushing off the cobwebs pushing out to a 5 goal lead very early.
Omnipotents prediction of both Macedons 1s and 2s making finals may just turn out!

 

[butterfingers31]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

Tuff start by diggers twos with first 2 games lost by 4 points in total. They will deffinately be there come finals.
Melton Centrals so far the biggest impovers by a long shot. Will rattle a few of the top sides and should be there in a 6 team finals series.

the top 6 will be well fought out.. with sunbury, romsey and riddell all fighting for 1st 2nd and 3rd.

the diggers boys were unlucky to lose to sunbury r.1, but yesterday was no excuse. we kicked 12 points and 6 or 7 goals.. including 1 30 seconds to go, but to take nuthing away from wallan. they were pretty good.

 

[To_Hard_To_Cheat]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

yeah great day to get out and watch some good footy. seniors was a good match.

but i think its really disappointing that there was no rdfl umpires present for the reserves match.. at all.
i hear that theyre might be 2 games a week without umpires in the twos.. if this is true its a disgrace. i no numbers might be low.. but (no offence to the two umpires who volunteered) the umpiring was terrible.
why not have only 1 umpire at 4 games instead of 2 at 2 and none at 2.

just some thoughts.,..


oh yeah btw, when you play wallan get out to see the netballers... they got some stunners

Unfortunately that would not be practical. I don't know if you have seen some of our reserve umpires, but they struggle umpiring with two umpires, there is not a chance they could umpire a game by themself. What we need is any ex-footballers to put there hand up and give something back to the game and earn some cash while doing it. The advisors I’m sure would be happy to accommodate for any requests so that the ex-players could be as close as possible to their senior team. If there is anyone interested in pulling on the orange, we train one night a week (Wednesday) at Maccy Park (oval 1) in Melton at 6.15.

 

[CarefulObserver]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

To be honest, he was a terrible coach (not to popular with the players).

He talked himself up a bit as a player.

Maybe you should of waited till the guy played a game first before you potted him KA

I was there first hand.. not bad for a first up crack.. was given a few goals by the CHF ( who was clearly BOG) red headed bloke. can he take a grab..

 

[footy mad 2]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

Just wondering with numbers so short what sort of recruitment drive there is if any.
Other than reading big footy how would people know how to become an umpire.
I know kids growing up need pocket money around the age of 17- 18 and they dont seem to struggle for umpires in other sports that pay alot less.
Is there enough support to train 2ce a week in two different locations such as sunbury and melton so as travel is not such an issue.

 

[Umpire22]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

Just wondering with numbers so short what sort of recruitment drive there is if any.
Other than reading big footy how would people know how to become an umpire.
I know kids growing up need pocket money around the age of 17- 18 and they dont seem to struggle for umpires in other sports that pay alot less.
Is there enough support to train 2ce a week in two different locations such as sunbury and melton so as travel is not such an issue.

there has been a few ads in the local rags and on the rdfl website, but we struggle to make ends meet let alone having an advertising budjet.
and although other sports might not struggle i don't think the umps are under anywhere near as much scrutiny as in footy, it doesn't seem like an attractive environment for a young bloke to step in to with some of the stuff we have to put up with on gameday.
i started doing it when i was still playing, the league sent out letters to every under 18's player at the time, and i was the only one to respond at the time.
if there is anybody out there thinking about it giving it a crack, weather an ex player or young bloke, it is worth wild, the umps association isn't that much different to a footy club environment, your given full support and can earn some pretty handy splash at the same time.
and for the young guys there is a career path not that much different to your under age players coming through the developement programs. i started doing under 14's and 16's on a sunday after playing on a saturday, and am now umpiring in the vfl.
anyone can sit on the side and criticise the job we do but is there anybody that will put their hand up to make a difference?

 

[OMNIPOTENT_1]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

Good post champ, well said !

 

[butterfingers31]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

Unfortunately that would not be practical. I don't know if you have seen some of our reserve umpires, but they struggle umpiring with two umpires, there is not a chance they could umpire a game by themself. What we need is any ex-footballers to put there hand up and give something back to the game and earn some cash while doing it. The advisors I’m sure would be happy to accommodate for any requests so that the ex-players could be as close as possible to their senior team. If there is anyone interested in pulling on the orange, we train one night a week (Wednesday) at Maccy Park (oval 1) in Melton at 6.15.

yeah but its gotta be better than have club people umpire, the wallan umpire was so biased. and we didnt have boundary umpires either.
other leagues poached our umpires last year...
why dont we do some poaching?

 

[Kings Army]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

Maybe you should of waited till the guy played a game first before you potted him KA

I was there first hand.. not bad for a first up crack.. was given a few goals by the CHF ( who was clearly BOG) red headed bloke. can he take a grab..

Obviously you don't observe carefully. Bears Boy post not mine.

Watched the Macedon Riddell game. Macedon competitive in the 1st quater but that was it. James and Meecham kicking 14 of the 18 goals were very good. Any team without out 2 very good backmen will find it hard to beat Riddell.

 

[EchucaBomber]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

Caught the last half of the Romsey game saturday, was standing talking to one of the ruckman from sunburys brother number 23, and he indicated Sunbury where undermanned on the weekend? Was this due to the resting of players because of the ground condition or not?

Young Cameron Dawson is a quality player, reads the play extremely well, bit of a hot head though for a young fella. Number 3 was good in patches, perhpas someone from Romsey, could help with names, and number 7 was everywhere in the last quarter, when the game needed to be won.

Good to see Jamie Cuffe still pulling them on, looked a little stiff, but presented great. Was the little kid on the ground a relation because I thought I heard someone say Cuffe when he had the ball?

The detoured home saturday night via Ky to see my boys get done by Kyabram by 26 points is a game very similar to the one above. Remember a name for your recruiting drive next year, a bloke by the name of Paul Newman, can play
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[Digger52]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

Guys
There is a milestone this weekend for 1 of the Diggers players .Mick Sheahan will pull the boots on for his 300 game @ the Burra.Even more incredible is the fact that Mick came to Diggers from Sunbury Lions where he played 4 years there in the RDFL. This would mean that Mick has played close to 400 games or more in the RDFL.Congratulation Mick ,let"s hope you can get thru training this week ,as we have the bye the week after.

 

[matt_nicholls]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

Guys
There is a milestone this weekend for 1 of the Diggers players .Mick Sheahan will pull the boots on for his 300 game @ the Burra.Even more incredible is the fact that Mick came to Diggers from Sunbury Lions where he played 4 years there in the RDFL. This would mean that Mick has played close to 400 games or more in the RDFL.Congratulation Mick ,let"s hope you can get thru training this week ,as we have the bye the week after.

Terrific effort by the club legend. Hope he has a great game!

 

[BrownDog2]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

i find it very ironic that people on this thread were talking about some matches this weekend not having umpires due to a numbers shortage.

If anyone on this board was at the Senior match between the Kangaroos and Romsey it wouldn't be hard to work out why they have a lack of numbers.

As usual with the Kangaroos, their behaviour both on and off the field was a disgrace. The amount of abuse directed at the umpires was appauling. When will someone at the club stand up and do something about it?

 

[Trueblueroo]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

i find it very ironic that people on this thread were talking about some matches this weekend not having umpires due to a numbers shortage.

If anyone on this board was at the Senior match between the Kangaroos and Romsey it wouldn't be hard to work out why they have a lack of numbers.

As usual with the Kangaroos, their behaviour both on and off the field was a disgrace. The amount of abuse directed at the umpires was appauling. When will someone at the club stand up and do something about it?

And we should all follow the example Romsey display, because they are so good at it

 

[blues12]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

i find it very ironic that people on this thread were talking about some matches this weekend not having umpires due to a numbers shortage.

If anyone on this board was at the Senior match between the Kangaroos and Romsey it wouldn't be hard to work out why they have a lack of numbers.

As usual with the Kangaroos, their behaviour both on and off the field was a disgrace. The amount of abuse directed at the umpires was appauling. When will someone at the club stand up and do something about it?

G'day peice of brown dog , good to see you back to point out the negatives of sunbury, if any umpires are not up to it they cop it from supporters not just sunbury supporters, i have seen diggers mouth, romsey riddell etc. Maybe some supporters didn't agree that the umpires got it right or wrong. One day you may come on here and praise Sunbury for something. But i doubt that. who at the club has upset you?

 

[matt_nicholls]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

I got involved in a heated discussion with one of the umpiring coaches on Saturday because I had a private dig at a boundary umpire who signaled a throw in when the ball clearly was out on the full (it nearly hit the fence!).
Last year I had a crack at umpiring, and I didn't mind it, but decided not to do it this year because of some of the people at the RDFLUA.
One day I stood and watched a game at Riddell with one of their senior members. We were looking at the umpiring closely. In one quarter, this umpire made probably 4-5 genuine mistakes. Which I don't have a problem with, we all do it. But the guy I was standing with tried to ignore what happened. If it was a push in the back, he would say the guy dived, if it was holding the ball, he would claim the guy got a handball.
THE UMPIRE CLEARLY MADE THE MISTAKES!
In one game I umpired last year, I was directly told by my officiating
partner at half time that I was not to interfere whilst the ball was in his area. This came after I paid two free kicks for indiscretions "behind play" - one was for holding a blokes jumper, and the other was for a throw which the other guy was blind sighted to.
I'm not an advocate for supporters sledging umpires, but I think they should be a little less sensitive and more accountable for their decisions. Everyone understands that mistakes happen, but they lose credibility when they try and claim they are always right, which sadly, does happen.
There are some terrific blokes (and shielas) at the RDFLUA, but a small minority are not doing the association any good.

 

[To_Hard_To_Cheat]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

I got involved in a heated discussion with one of the umpiring coaches on Saturday because I had a private dig at a boundary umpire who signaled a throw in when the ball clearly was out on the full (it nearly hit the fence!).
Last year I had a crack at umpiring, and I didn't mind it, but decided not to do it this year because of some of the people at the RDFLUA.
One day I stood and watched a game at Riddell with one of their senior members. We were looking at the umpiring closely. In one quarter, this umpire made probably 4-5 genuine mistakes. Which I don't have a problem with, we all do it. But the guy I was standing with tried to ignore what happened. If it was a push in the back, he would say the guy dived, if it was holding the ball, he would claim the guy got a handball.
THE UMPIRE CLEARLY MADE THE MISTAKES!
In one game I umpired last year, I was directly told by my officiating
partner at half time that I was not to interfere whilst the ball was in his area. This came after I paid two free kicks for indiscretions "behind play" - one was for holding a blokes jumper, and the other was for a throw which the other guy was blind sighted to.
I'm not an advocate for supporters sledging umpires, but I think they should be a little less sensitive and more accountable for their decisions. Everyone understands that mistakes happen, but they lose credibility when they try and claim they are always right, which sadly, does happen.
There are some terrific blokes (and shielas) at the RDFLUA, but a small minority are not doing the association any good.

I was at the game you were at on the weekend and the umpire you were having a go at was a 13 year old kid!!! Who was running to the best of his ability and may have been caught behind play. I am a senior member of Riddell Umpires and I completely disagree that umpires always think they are right. Most umpires would be the first to admit when they make an error, in fact I will often admit to players during a game if I had made a mistake, because yes we do get it wrong. We can only pay them as we see them!!!!

 

[To_Hard_To_Cheat]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

i find it very ironic that people on this thread were talking about some matches this weekend not having umpires due to a numbers shortage.

If anyone on this board was at the Senior match between the Kangaroos and Romsey it wouldn't be hard to work out why they have a lack of numbers.

As usual with the Kangaroos, their behaviour both on and off the field was a disgrace. The amount of abuse directed at the umpires was appauling. When will someone at the club stand up and do something about it?

Unfortunately this is why we do loose a lot of umpires. Yes the older more experienced umpire know how to cop the abuse, but the younger guys get abused and give it up. Why would they want to turn up each week just to get abused?

To limit it to one club is unfair. I think every club could admit that at some stage they get a little frustrated with us.

 

[Itsmyshow]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

I will make this clear before I start this post.. I in no way condone any abuse towards umpires.

I believe that BD2 may have personal issues toward the Sunbury Kangaroos. Football is an emotional game and of course spectators will get caught up in the excitement of the game and mouth off, some do go over the top, but I have seen this happen with every team, every where. To suggest that the umpire shortage is caused by the Sunbury Kangaroos FC is just a ridiculous statement. I do think that some supporters, from every side, behave poorly when it comes to umpires and that clubs should make every attempt to stamp out that behaviour. Rest assured, the Kangaroos will deal with these issues in house, which is none of your concern BD2, unless of course you hold an official capacity, then you would have my number and can call me direct to discuss the issues. But in all reality, there are spectators at games that are not directly linked to clubs, these spectators can sometimes involve themselves in games also which can lead to confrontation, it is these spectators that are harder to control, as most sides couldn't identify if they were linked to their club or not.

 

[matt_nicholls]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

I was at the game you were at on the weekend and the umpire you were having a go at was a 13 year old kid!!! Who was running to the best of his ability and may have been caught behind play. I am a senior member of Riddell Umpires and I completely disagree that umpires always think they are right. Most umpires would be the first to admit when they make an error, in fact I will often admit to players during a game if I had made a mistake, because yes we do get it wrong. We can only pay them as we see them!!!!

Actually it was the more senior boundary umpire and he should have been within seeing distance (is 20 metres too far away!?). The good umpires from last year (Ice, Dwayne, Nobes, Browny etc.) seem to be able to joke about their mistakes, but there are far too many uptight and unwilling to cop any criticism whatsoever.

 

[footy mad 2]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

i find it very ironic that people on this thread were talking about some matches this weekend not having umpires due to a numbers shortage.

If anyone on this board was at the Senior match between the Kangaroos and Romsey it wouldn't be hard to work out why they have a lack of numbers.

As usual with the Kangaroos, their behaviour both on and off the field was a disgrace. The amount of abuse directed at the umpires was appauling. When will someone at the club stand up and do something about it?

I have just gone back through your posts for the last year (I urge all to do the same) and you have not added one thing worthy of peoples time to read.
If you have nothing to add to any forums just leave and don't come back.
How was your performance as a spectator on the weekend?
Did you abuse the umpires at all?
Did you TRY to INTIMIDATE the oppositions supporters at all?

 

[oneeyedblue]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

I will make this clear before I start this post.. I in no way condone any abuse towards umpires.

I believe that BD2 may have personal issues toward the Sunbury Kangaroos. Football is an emotional game and of course spectators will get caught up in the excitement of the game and mouth off, some do go over the top, but I have seen this happen with every team, every where. To suggest that the umpire shortage is caused by the Sunbury Kangaroos FC is just a ridiculous statement. I do think that some supporters, from every side, behave poorly when it comes to umpires and that clubs should make every attempt to stamp out that behaviour. Rest assured, the Kangaroos will deal with these issues in house, which is none of your concern BD2, unless of course you hold an official capacity, then you would have my number and can call me direct to discuss the issues. But in all reality, there are spectators at games that are not directly linked to clubs, these spectators can sometimes involve themselves in games also which can lead to confrontation, it is these spectators that are harder to control, as most sides couldn't identify if they were linked to their club or not.

Someone on the kangas committee should have told the woman doing the time keeping in the seniors to shut her mouth. Her mouth probably didnt do the kangas any favours with the umps or RDFL officials at the game

 

[Trueblueroo]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

Someone on the kangas committee should have told the woman doing the time keeping in the seniors to shut her mouth. Her mouth probably didnt do the kangas any favours with the umps or RDFL officials at the game

You have to be kidding surely! So your now singling out one idividual supporter amongst a couple hundred that would have been there saturday. The person your refering to is a passionate member of the football club, one lady that puts in a fair bit, every club has one, so can you blame her for being passionate? Football is a passionate sport, every club has passionate supporters, and every club gives the umpires a spray now and then, we understand there not perfect and neither are us, but singling out people is not on.

Romsey have been no better than us in the past, likewise with a majority of other clubs. So to pot us and say where the worst and one individual started it, is nothin but garbage! Someone on your committee needs to be reminded that it is a community sport, and at the end of the day the right thing is to join the other side for a beer and a laugh, not piss off! All but 4 people from Romsey did a runner and joined us after for a beer, where is the sportmanship in that?

Even the umpires came back, we couldn't have abused them to badly....

 

[dpagan]

Re: R.d.f.l Thread 2008

any news from games pickles, injuries, reports match reports? pretty quiet on that front. Any teams that wish to mention games played on weekend