RDFL Thread 2008

Kings Army · Sep 17, 2008

Itsmyshow said:
Both players were found guilty of minor misconduct in which they left the field of play, the charge carries a 1 week suspended sentence, which is what both players received... The tribunal was not deferred, it was held..

Do you have an opinion on the outcome??

Surprised not to have heard from OMI this week.

Itsmyshow · Sep 17, 2008

oneeyedblue said:
This means that if 2 apposing players have a problem with each other on the field they can jump the fence ,punch the crap out of each other .Return to the field and get a 1 week suspended sentence.

Wow... I must have made the decision...

The umpires downgraded the charge to Minor Misconduct, the penalty carries a 1 week suspended sentence.. The tribunal deliberated, found the players guilty.. 1 week suspended sentence the punishment.. What you have described above is a totally different scenario.. Not everything is as cut and dry as you seem to think it is at this point in time, there was quite a bit more to the situation than that.. Should they have been suspended.. Probably.. Did they.. No.. They were punished per the correct punishment for the charge.

Itsmyshow · Sep 17, 2008

Kings Army said:
Do you have an opinion on the outcome??

Surprised not to have heard from OMI this week.

My opinion is...... They did they wrong thing and should be rightly punished.. There was quite a bit to the story though.. The people that should be punished are the spectators..... FROM BOTH SIDES (dont want to incur the wrath of Bit of Balance) that were involved.. But the players were charged with Minor misconduct and received the set penalty for the charge, so yes, I agree with it to a point.

Itsmyshow · Sep 17, 2008

The whole story seems to have been adjusted... Interesting reading...

Baldingeagle · Sep 17, 2008

oneeyedblue said:
This means that if 2 apposing players have a problem with each other on the field they can jump the fence ,punch the crap out of each other .Return to the field and get a 1 week suspended sentence.

If that occurred I would expect that the players would be charged with misconduct as well as striking.

Blueboy16 · Sep 17, 2008

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Kings Army · Sep 17, 2008

Having a league boss state that neither player threw a punch was further justification as to why they were given suspended sentances. Also the players were hit with a massive $60 fine to make them think twice about fence jumping. There maybe a fund raiser this Sunday at Lancefield to help them out.

justchecking · Sep 17, 2008

Itsmyshow said:
My opinion is...... They did they wrong thing and should be rightly punished.. There was quite a bit to the story though.. The people that should be punished are the spectators..... FROM BOTH SIDES (dont want to incur the wrath of Bit of Balance) that were involved.. But the players were charged with Minor misconduct and received the set penalty for the charge, so yes, I agree with it to a point.

So that puts an end to the Umpires reporting of the incident, and that is all they are accountable for. However, is the RDFL looking (with their Investigations Officer) at the whole incident and can we expect to hear other charges from this process?

Itsmyshow · Sep 17, 2008

justchecking said:
So that puts an end to the Umpires reporting of the incident, and that is all they are accountable for. However, is the RDFL looking (with their Investigations Officer) at the whole incident and can we expect to hear other charges from this process?

Yes... There will...

footyhead18 · Sep 17, 2008

What a disgrace! This league and its tribunal have just made another massive mistake. Regardless of the events leading up, it has now officially set a precedent that it is ok for players to run off the ground during a match to get involved in a fight. They would not get off this charge anywhere else in Australia. Full stop. Dont reply with bullsh.t about how they were heroes to do what they did or how it was morally correct. They crossed the line (literally) & should have copped a suspension to match.
Until this incident i thought this forum was generally an accurate & fair opinion based outlet but many of you have lost me in your biased & hysterical rants.

Itsmyshow · Sep 17, 2008

footyhead18 said:
What a disgrace! This league and its tribunal have just made another massive mistake. Regardless of the events leading up, it has now officially set a precedent that it is ok for players to run off the ground during a match to get involved in a fight. They would not get off this charge anywhere else in Australia. Full stop. Dont reply with bullsh.t about how they were heroes to do what they did or how it was morally correct. They crossed the line (literally) & should have copped a suspension to match.
Until this incident i thought this forum was generally an accurate & fair opinion based outlet but many of you have lost me in your biased & hysterical rants.

Absolute rubbish.. This is officially the biggest rant of them all.. Why didn't you submit a detailed account of the incident to the league if you have all the facts to make an assumption of the event?? Why, because you dont have all the details.. The FACT is, they didn't get off the charge, they were found guilty and given the appropriate set penalty for the charge that they were found guilty of... As for precedent.. How has there been a precedent set for a penalty that already exists? Talk about bias.. Your post is biased and hysterical.. Hopefully you have decided that you wont be returning to the thread, it is better off without you.

Cossie5 · Sep 17, 2008

footyhead18 said:
What a disgrace! This league and its tribunal have just made another massive mistake. Regardless of the events leading up, it has now officially set a precedent that it is ok for players to run off the ground during a match to get involved in a fight. They would not get off this charge anywhere else in Australia. Full stop. Dont reply with bullsh.t about how they were heroes to do what they did or how it was morally correct. They crossed the line (literally) & should have copped a suspension to match.
Until this incident i thought this forum was generally an accurate & fair opinion based outlet but many of you have lost me in your biased & hysterical rants.

We've lost you footyhead, oh well.......good riddance to bad rubbish. :thumbsdown:

justchecking · Sep 17, 2008

footyhead18 said:
What a disgrace! This league and its tribunal have just made another massive mistake. Regardless of the events leading up, it has now officially set a precedent that it is ok for players to run off the ground during a match to get involved in a fight. They would not get off this charge anywhere else in Australia. Full stop.

I do not profess to be totally knowledgeable here but my understanding is the umpire’s jurisdiction is within the field of play. The only breach they can report is leaving the field of play. Hence my question before as to whether the RDFL’s Investigations Officer was reviewing the incident. The RDFL has far more jurisdiction than the umpires when it comes to any form of off field incidents - and that's what it was.
So far everything appears to be following the process - the RDFL is correct!

Itsmyshow · Sep 17, 2008

justchecking said:
footyhead18 said:

What a disgrace! This league and its tribunal have just made another massive mistake. Regardless of the events leading up, it has now officially set a precedent that it is ok for players to run off the ground during a match to get involved in a fight. They would not get off this charge anywhere else in Australia. Full stop.

I do not profess to be totally knowledgeable here but my understanding is the umpire’s jurisdiction is within the field of play. The only breach they can report is leaving the field of play. Hence my question before as to whether the RDFL’s Investigations Officer was reviewing the incident. The RDFL has far more jurisdiction than the umpires when it comes to any form of off field incidents - and that's what it was.
So far everything appears to be following the process - the RDFL is correct!

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The umpire can report for engaging in a melee if a player leaves the field of play, the umpire withdrew his report for striking a spectator.. The only charges that needed to be heard was leaving the field of play.
The RDFL is conducting an investigation on the incident, but it will unlikely involve the players involved any further. That incident has been heard and dealt with.

justchecking · Sep 17, 2008

Itsmyshow said:
justchecking said:

The umpire can report for engaging in a melee if a player leaves the field of play, the umpire withdrew his report for striking a spectator.. The only charges that needed to be heard was leaving the field of play.
The RDFL is conducting an investigation on the incident, but it will unlikely involve the players involved any further. That incident has been heard and dealt with.

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Good! If anything has come out of this, I expect the Spectators will be well behaved this weekend and hopefully into the future. Clubs have a strong accountability here, it is too easy to point the finger at the RDFL when the Clubs should have control over THEIR supporters.

BitofBalance · Sep 17, 2008

Itsmyshow said:
justchecking said:

The umpire can report for engaging in a melee if a player leaves the field of play, the umpire withdrew his report for striking a spectator.. The only charges that needed to be heard was leaving the field of play.
The RDFL is conducting an investigation on the incident, but it will unlikely involve the players involved any further. That incident has been heard and dealt with.

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Interesting decision. Good points about what the upms can and can't charge players with who is responsible for what aspects of control. The point made about the RDFL following its processes is well put and very important.
Hopefully now we can see the best the league's got both on and off the field on the weekend. Good to see everyone a bit more pleasant towards each other today.
I'm not really a "wrathful" person!

Itsmyshow · Sep 17, 2008

Game previews on the RDFL website...

They are pretty good.. Except can we please instruct writers that a previous game in which you were not the victor becomes a LOSS not a LOSE..

matt_nicholls · Sep 17, 2008

We can't all be as good as me

Itsmyshow · Sep 17, 2008

matt_nicholls said:
We can't all be as good as me

Well, he is actually a little better than you.. A touch below me, but definitely better than you...

The senior preview was the best one by a long way..

who framed Daryl B · Sep 17, 2008

matt_nicholls said:
We can't all be as good as me

HEY PICKLES HOWS THE WEATHER UP THERE??? HOT I BET ??????YOU MISSED A BIG ONE ON THE WEEKEND. EVERYONE IS MISSING YOU SO MUCH.

READ AN ARTICLE ABOUT A 23 YEAR OLD THAT GOT CAUGHT DRINK DRIVING UP AT YOUR NEW HAUNT. THEY GOT CAUGHT ON A HORSE AND BLEW 1.22 WAS IT YOU AND IS THAT YOUR NEW TRANSPORTATION.................. :thumbsdown:

Umpire22 · Sep 17, 2008

justchecking said:
I do not profess to be totally knowledgeable here but my understanding is the umpire’s jurisdiction is within the field of play. The only breach they can report is leaving the field of play. Hence my question before as to whether the RDFL’s Investigations Officer was reviewing the incident. The RDFL has far more jurisdiction than the umpires when it comes to any form of off field incidents - and that's what it was.
So far everything appears to be following the process - the RDFL is correct!

straight from the laws of the game:

19. REPORTING PLAYERS AND OFFICIALS
19.1 Obligation to Report

19.1.1 To Controlling Body

An Umpire shall report to the Controlling Body any Player or
Official who commits or engages in conduct which may constitute a

Reportable Offence:
(a) during a Match; or
(b) on the day of the Match and within the immediate proximity
of the Arena where the Match is conducted.

19.1.2 Interpretation — “Within the Immediate Proximity of the Arena”

Without limiting their ordinary meaning, the words “within the
immediate proximity of the Arena” shall include any area within 500
metres of the Arena where the Match is conducted.

matt_nicholls · Sep 17, 2008

who framed Daryl B said:
HEY PICKLES HOWS THE WEATHER UP THERE??? HOT I BET ??????YOU MISSED A BIG ONE ON THE WEEKEND. EVERYONE IS MISSING YOU SO MUCH. READ AN ARTICLE ABOUT A 23 YEAR OLD THAT GOT CAUGHT DRINK DRIVING UP AT YOUR NEW HAUNT. THEY GOT CAUGHT ON A HORSE AND BLEW 1.22 WAS IT YOU AND IS THAT YOUR NEW TRANSPORTATION..................

That was actually my story pal. Doing okay up here. Been flat out. Its not as relaxed as the old Free Press. But loving it up here thus far. Job is good. Not many women though :thumbsdown:

OMNIPOTENT_1 · Sep 17, 2008

matt_nicholls said:
That was actually my story pal. Doing okay up here. Been flat out. Its not as relaxed as the old Free Press. But loving it up here thus far. Job is good. Not many women though

G'day mate, did you end up getting on the omen bet of the day at Sandown today in race 2.............. a nag going around with the name of - Oh Pickles ?

OMNIPOTENT_1 · Sep 17, 2008

Kings Army said:
Do you have an opinion on the outcome??

Surprised not to have heard from OMNI this week.

Some of us have to work unfortunately.

Do you have a question or are you just fishing ?

Grubby_3 · Sep 17, 2008

any truth to the rumor that northern bullants recruiter j house will be an assistant coach to anthony stevens at echuca next season???

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