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Nah, not true. No issues from anyone (players, crowd, coaches box, etc) for the whole game. Melton too strong on the day
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RDFL Thread 2010 (Part 3)
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Nah, not true. No issues from anyone (players, crowd, coaches box, etc) for the whole game. Melton too strong on the day
It wasn't about getting a game pal, I was smart enough to know that there were too many good players running around back then.
It is obviously up to Pig but I know he'll be at Centrals next year
Yeah Pig will not be coaching next year and in a way i dont blame the guy
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16 team comp!! - where did you get that gem from? VCFL? I think the RDFL will have the final say!
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obviousley couldnt get a game up at sth ?? stick to netball princess
by the way who is going to caoch you guys next season ?
the word is that Pig wont put his hand up again
Go back under the fridge little cockroach or should that be head?
What you said george was spot on. I too have been at that club. Have seen first hand what your talking about.
Still, I love the club just needs more people putting thier hands up and helping out.
They won't fold or merge
George08 do I smell a rat (ta) lol
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Great!!! Add that to the one or two other mistruth's we were told this time 2 years ago
Someting along the lines of "12 is our preferred number" Would 16 mean a return to two divisions?
Great to see 4 teams fighting it out for 4th place on the ladder. Makes for an interesting round of footy. Also good to see Diggers Rest in top 6 in both reserves seniors and under 18 competitions. whats the outfit of the under 18 team? how many will be leaving the under age competition next year and what will numbers be like?
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MELTON LEADER NEWSPAPER
Melton South to discuss potential move
A MOVE to the Riddell District Football League will be among the points discussed at Melton South’s extraordinary general meeting this week.
But Panthers president Tyrone Charge stressed it was simply one of many talking points to be covered, and no serious move away from the Ballarat Football League was being considered yet.
‘‘What (the meeting) will most likely entail is that we’ll ask the members whether or not (moving to the RDFL) is an option they want us to look at,’’ he said.
‘‘The Ballarat Football League is a semi-professional competition which demands semi-professional clubs and we’re just not at that level at the moment. I’m not saying the RDFL hasn’t got that, but it’s just not quite at the same level as the BFL.’’
Charge said the main point of the meeting was to garner support for the club and increase the number of people volunteering for committee roles.
He added he was reluctant to see the club move away from the BFL.
BFL chief executive Rod Ward said he had met with Melton South last week over their volunteer concerns. ‘‘We had a very productive meeting with them on Thursday night and first and foremost their concern is over the lack of volunteers,’’ Ward said.
‘‘If they don’t get volunteers they won’t have a club to play in any league.
‘‘There is the question of whether it would be less taxing for volunteers to play in the Riddell District Football League but in our view the financial benefits of playing in (the BFL) will outweigh that.’’
He said playing in the BFL helped South attract higher quality players.
The extraordinary meeting will be held tonight at the club’s rooms.
Melton South to discuss potential move
A MOVE to the Riddell District Football League will be among the points discussed at Melton South’s extraordinary general meeting this week.
But Panthers president Tyrone Charge stressed it was simply one of many talking points to be covered, and no serious move away from the Ballarat Football League was being considered yet.
‘‘What (the meeting) will most likely entail is that we’ll ask the members whether or not (moving to the RDFL) is an option they want us to look at,’’ he said.
‘‘The Ballarat Football League is a semi-professional competition which demands semi-professional clubs and we’re just not at that level at the moment. I’m not saying the RDFL hasn’t got that, but it’s just not quite at the same level as the BFL.’’
Charge said the main point of the meeting was to garner support for the club and increase the number of people volunteering for committee roles.
He added he was reluctant to see the club move away from the BFL.
BFL chief executive Rod Ward said he had met with Melton South last week over their volunteer concerns. ‘‘We had a very productive meeting with them on Thursday night and first and foremost their concern is over the lack of volunteers,’’ Ward said.
‘‘If they don’t get volunteers they won’t have a club to play in any league.
‘‘There is the question of whether it would be less taxing for volunteers to play in the Riddell District Football League but in our view the financial benefits of playing in (the BFL) will outweigh that.’’
He said playing in the BFL helped South attract higher quality players.
The extraordinary meeting will be held tonight at the club’s rooms.
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Playing in the BFL helps attract higher quality players?? What a crock.. Money helps attract higher quality players, plain and simple.. If they don't have the money and cannot financially manage themselves to be competitive in the BFL then the name of the league isn't going to make a lick of difference....
If South return to the RDFL, they would be able to return themselves to being the true grass roots club that they once were.. As a club they have shifted from this position as a hope to become competitive in the BFL, and as some from Centrals have pointed out, Centrals will fast become the grass roots club that Melton people will want to be involved in.. If South decide to stay in the BFL.. Either way, the outcome will be interesting.
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Great!!! Add that to the one or two other mistruth's we were told this time 2 years ago
Would 16 mean a return to two divisions?
would two divisions be a bad thing? especially over the long run....the gap between the top three and the bottom three sides is huge atm, two divisions would elimate 25+ goal floggings between these sides an make the bottom three sides more competitive in wat would be divy 2. i just feel sorry for sides like Broadford, Melton an Rockbank who have to go through very long an tough seasons playin against ya Riddels n L'Fields an have virtually a 0% chance of bringing home the points.
Would 16 sides be enough teams for two divisions would b my only question?
Sixteen teams with two divisions doesn't solve anything. A couple of years ago I thought it was worth exploring, but now I think the RDFL is the perfect size.
Let's say we had these 16 sides, split into two divisions.
Gisborne
Kyneton
Melton
Melton Sth
Riddell
Lancefield
Sunbury Kangaroos
Kilmore
Romsey
Woodend-Hesket
Macedon
Diggers Rest
Melton Central
Rockbank
Wallan
Broadford
It just wouldn't work. The four current RDFL clubs in Div 1 might go okay in the first season, but in time, the likes of Gisborne and the Meltons would spend more than our teams can afford. Lancefield no longer has the rivalry matches against the likes of Romsey and therefore gate takings etc. go down.
Div 2 would be a bloody close competition, but again, Romsey has no rivalry with Lancefield, Diggers likewise with the Kangas. At the moment, Broadford, Rockbank and Centrals are struggling to beat anyone, so that isn't going to solve their problems.
Plus it will be like the 90s, where the Div 2 premier won't be able to compete in Div 1 because there'll be massively different budgets and standard in play.
Keep the comp as it is, work closely with the bottom three clubs (in particular Broadford) and in five years time the RDFL will be one of the strongest comps going around, IMO.
Let's say we had these 16 sides, split into two divisions.
Gisborne
Kyneton
Melton
Melton Sth
Riddell
Lancefield
Sunbury Kangaroos
Kilmore
Romsey
Woodend-Hesket
Macedon
Diggers Rest
Melton Central
Rockbank
Wallan
Broadford
It just wouldn't work. The four current RDFL clubs in Div 1 might go okay in the first season, but in time, the likes of Gisborne and the Meltons would spend more than our teams can afford. Lancefield no longer has the rivalry matches against the likes of Romsey and therefore gate takings etc. go down.
Div 2 would be a bloody close competition, but again, Romsey has no rivalry with Lancefield, Diggers likewise with the Kangas. At the moment, Broadford, Rockbank and Centrals are struggling to beat anyone, so that isn't going to solve their problems.
Plus it will be like the 90s, where the Div 2 premier won't be able to compete in Div 1 because there'll be massively different budgets and standard in play.
Keep the comp as it is, work closely with the bottom three clubs (in particular Broadford) and in five years time the RDFL will be one of the strongest comps going around, IMO.
Too right, Pickles.
As a sidenote isn't Rolling Meadows supposed to have a senior side in the RDFL in 2011 ?
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I’m impressed; you actually said something that has some sense to it!!!!
The part that gets my back up is these clubs outside the RDFL who think they can come back whenever it suits them. Sure they can consider it, but they act like they are doing us a favour and we will welcome them with open arms. I believe we had a very balanced and competitive league when we had 10 Clubs; I am yet to see any benefit from going to 12 Clubs. I’m sure people can question that statement but if you do please use some facts and not emotive rubbish. At this stage I can't see any good reasons to increase the RDFL any further.
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There are plenty of good reasons to increase the number of clubs within the RDFL... Several years ago when the league was at it's strongest point, a majority of clubs believed strongly in the "if it's not broken, don't fix it" philosophy, the problem with that being, the clubs that existed within the league needed internal growth, growth of the competition, not by numbers, but general growth.. The league is much in the same situation now.. It was less than 10 years ago that this competition was broke and going no where, it has only been the internal growth of the existing clubs that has allowed the competition as a whole to grow back to a postition where we are no longer the laughing stock of local football within Victoria. The problem with standing still is that everyone else who is on the move will go straight past.. As long as there are strong stratergies in place, the league can not only sustain, but improve and grow with the addition of more clubs, whether that means enough clubs to create a two division competition, only time will tell. But as a league, I think it is in the best interests of everyone that is a member to keep an open mind for the growth of the RDFL, now and into the future, because if we return to the "if it aint broke" mentality, it wont be long before we return to stagnant management policies and a league that faces oblivion...
By the way, this doesn't mean I don't disagree with your point on the clubs that left the competition, don't get me wrong, they took the easy option all those years ago... But if some of those clubs returning creates a benefit to the current competition.. Then we, as clubs and members, should seriously consider what impact, both negative and positive it will have before we decide on which side of the argument we stand....
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There are plenty of good reasons to increase the number of clubs within the RDFL... Several years ago when the league was at it's strongest point, a majority of clubs believed strongly in the "if it's not broken, don't fix it" philosophy, the problem with that being, the clubs that existed within the league needed internal growth, growth of the competition, not by numbers, but general growth.. The league is much in the same situation now.. It was less than 10 years ago that this competition was broke and going no where, it has only been the internal growth of the existing clubs that has allowed the competition as a whole to grow back to a postition where we are no longer the laughing stock of local football within Victoria. The problem with standing still is that everyone else who is on the move will go straight past.. As long as there are strong stratergies in place, the league can not only sustain, but improve and grow with the addition of more clubs, whether that means enough clubs to create a two division competition, only time will tell. But as a league, I think it is in the best interests of everyone that is a member to keep an open mind for the growth of the RDFL, now and into the future, because if we return to the "if it aint broke" mentality, it wont be long before we return to stagnant management policies and a league that faces oblivion...
By the way, this doesn't mean I don't disagree with your point on the clubs that left the competition, don't get me wrong, they took the easy option all those years ago... But if some of those clubs returning creates a benefit to the current competition.. Then we, as clubs and members, should seriously consider what impact, both negative and positive it will have before we decide on which side of the argument we stand....
Please don’t take my statement as negative – it is not what I meant. With the issues over the last 12 months or so the League needs to stabilise before going any further backwards and then put in place a plan to move forward. Plan is the key word. Has the RDFL got a plan? We brought in two Clubs under which part of the documented plan? What are the key measurements that show the plan is working? Does the word ‘void’ meant anything?
I don't mind your point, but I think the inclusion of Wallan was a great thing for the RDFL. It was great for Wallan and great for Kilmore, Romsey, Lancefield etc to have another close rival.
The Broadford inclusion has yet to work, but there's no reason why it can't. The Roos have had some internal issues of their own to deal with, and the former GM made some promises the current GM can't keep, but they are are worth sticking with. They have a lot of proud history and have generally been quite successful. Having an Under 18s side is a big deal to them as the HDFL still has U17s for thirds.
One thing Broadford probably hasn't got is the support of the general community. They can't get sponsorship from their pubs etc. That hurts big time. Plus they had a negative stigma for quite a few years and that mud has tended to stick, despite the club being completely different these days.
Ten teams was good, but 12 isn't much different. While the strength of individual clubs is not an RDFL responsibility, I think the board, who seem to have their own club's agendas, should be spending more time on working with the likes of Broadford, Centrals and Rockbank on recruiting tips, business management and long-term planning. I'm not saying the current people at those clubs are incompetent, but any help would be better than what they are reportedly getting now.
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I certainly didn't read your post as negative, I think it is certainly a valid question and point and something that should be questioned should this situation ever arise...
The whole process would need to be planned and managed... The reality is that a current long term plan should already be in process as well as the creation of a succession plan to ensure that all transitions are well monitored...
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All very valid points you raise there champ. But I still believe that this Melton Sth issue of them considering coming back into the RDFL is a moot point. It just aint gunna happen, our club presidents will just never sign off on it. So they can talk about it & consider it all they like. They can even set the wheels in motion for a possible move. But sooner or later they will hit this dead end. And the reason why is simple - They are percieved as way too greater risk for the on going evenness of the competition for them to be let back in, end of story !
& on the point of Rod Ward saying that playing in the BalFL allows a side to attract a better quality of player........ Well this guy is just plainly in Noddy Land !
Rod "WAKE UP" you are asleep at the wheel ! You clearly have been a league administator for way too long. Go back to club level & see what it takes these days to get 3 sides on the park. Before more of your clubs go broke, fold or merge, its time for you to realise that there are only 2 things that keep Football Clubs afloat, & they compliment & perpetuate each other, they are - Local Support & $$$$$.
Although a lucky select few clubs seem to be able to stay artificially viable these days thanks to the almighty gambling $$$ ! But unfortunately for them that surely cant last forever !
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Four can't go into three in finals race:
http://www.macedonrangestelegraph.c...our-teams-battle-for-three-spots/1914425.aspx
Around the grounds:
http://www.macedonrangestelegraph.c...rdfl-round-17-around-the-grounds/1914426.aspx
Relief at last for Melton Centrals:
http://www.meltonexpress.com.au/new...n-rules/blues-sail-to-second-win/1915676.aspx
http://www.macedonrangestelegraph.c...our-teams-battle-for-three-spots/1914425.aspx
Around the grounds:
http://www.macedonrangestelegraph.c...rdfl-round-17-around-the-grounds/1914426.aspx
Relief at last for Melton Centrals:
http://www.meltonexpress.com.au/new...n-rules/blues-sail-to-second-win/1915676.aspx
Look out if he ever gets a real footy in his hands
Tipping those weren't Sherrins you were having shots with earlier tonight mate
Tipping those weren't Sherrins you were having shots with earlier tonight mate
that was a closed session Doon...how d u get in haha...dw mate they got better towards the end
that was a closed session Doon...how d u get in haha...dw mate they got better towards the end
Was wondering why the gate was locked, snuck in up the back and was hiding behind a tree behind the goals you were kicking at
Have a few more goes Thursday, got meself a free day Satdy so hope to see ya jag a few
Was wondering why the gate was locked, snuck in up the back and was hiding behind a tree behind the goals you were kicking at
Have a few more goes Thursday, got meself a free day Satdy so hope to see ya jag a few
Yeah mate practice makes perfect lol...well i got 1 more to go before the half century so fingers crossed i get a kick haha
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I expected to see Ben Talbot at Macedon on satdy but was a no show. He has only played 2 games now so cant play finals can he? Watching tigers on satdy i expect them to lose to diggers this week. They dont seem hungry enough to me. 6 points flattered them on satdy.
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