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says the great coach that he was.
What's that got to do with anything? You might as well have called out his baking skills whilst you were at it ;)

Pretty fair player* in his day, I'm sure he's experienced a few offers from time to time.




*By pretty fair I means an absolute champion and one of the best ever.
 

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Well doesn't that apply to every out of contract player that hasn't signed or come out in the press and said they are staying?
No.

It's the same flawed logic that compares David Mundy or Told Goldstein with Danger.

You can't compare A**** tier players with anybody else. The most high profile, greatest champion players of the day attract far more attention & scrutiny than others.

Danger is in company with players like Judd, Gaz, Buddy, Pendles & NVoldt not your Boaks, Goldsteins or Mundys.

Take NVoldt or Pendles, massive players sought heavily by the expansion teams. Big big offers, and huge pressure & public scrutiny on them the longer they left it. But they wanted to stay, so what did they do? They never said they were leaving it, or concentrating on their footy. They just got on with the business of staying and signing.

Some players want to stay and some want to go. Generally they behave differently, because of the pressure involved if you are on that pedestal.

Take dougie, he could announce he wanted to postpone negotiations to the end of the year and it would still never take hold in the media or public eye because he is not at that level. Ordinary supporters of all clubs don't care that much about dougie, but they do about Danger.

Who knows, maybe Danger will stay in the end and will get caught up in the momentum; but these days he's taking a lot of unnecessary heat, unnecessary if you planned to stay. Which is what Watson is talking about. Why put yourself through that? It's not like you'll get any more money out of it.
 

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What's that got to do with anything? You might as well have called out his baking skills whilst you were at it ;)

Pretty fair player* in his day, I'm sure he's experienced a few offers from time to time.




*By pretty fair I means an absolute champion and one of the best ever.

He was and how are your baking skills btw. You're rolling in the dough
 
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No.

It's the same flawed logic that compares David Mundy or Told Goldstein with Danger.

You can't compare A**** tier players with anybody else. The most high profile, greatest champion players of the day attract far more attention & scrutiny than others.

Danger is in company with players like Judd, Gaz, Buddy, Pendles & NVoldt not your Boaks, Goldsteins or Mundys.

Take NVoldt or Pendles, massive players sought heavily by the expansion teams. Big big offers, and huge pressure & public scrutiny on them the longer they left it. But they wanted to stay, so what did they do? They never said they were leaving it, or concentrating on their footy. They just got on with the business of staying and signing.

Some players want to stay and some want to go. Generally they behave differently, because of the pressure involved if you are on that pedestal.

Take dougie, he could announce he wanted to postpone negotiations to the end of the year and it would still never take hold in the media or public eye because he is not at that level. Ordinary supporters of all clubs don't care that much about dougie, but they do about Danger.

Who knows, maybe Danger will stay in the end and will get caught up in the momentum; but these days he's taking a lot of unnecessary heat, unnecessary if you planned to stay. Which is what Watson is talking about. Why put yourself through that? It's not like you'll get any more money out of it.
If someone offered a mundy for a danger, age excluded, i reckon id take that, Mundy is a jet.
 

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No my sample size is about right. Because Patrick Dangerfield is considered as a top 5 player in the game, by much better minds than mine! That's the whole gist* of it! if he was a run of the mill average midfielder, it wouldnt be such a big deal!
Every year there is one free agent that stands above others eligible, Paddy is it in 2015, That's the point you are missing,
I understand the point, I just don't think it's reliable data or objective. There have been two people in the last five years who were "big one's" under free agency like conditions and you're basing everything on that ignoring everyone else because they weren't big ones. Why do they need to be "big one's" anyway? why does that make their decision any different than a top 50 or even top 100 player in the AFL? A sample size of two is **** all, meaning you have nothing unless you want to extend the size of the sample but you can't because it ****s your argument up.

Regardless, Ablett and Franklin moving clubs were both quite rare in circumstance. The only reason the Gold Coast could lure Ablett was because of the extended initial salary cap and the only reason Sydney lured Franklin was because of their COLA and they contracted him until he was 102. You're banking your whole argument on a shitty minute sample size of rare events. It's just a shit argument.

Who was last years big one? Frawley? you're out debating yourself if it is.
 

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I don't think we are on the same page.
The house argument, is neither here nor there! Im just saying, buying a house 3 years before your contract ends is not the same as buying one, the same year your contract ends. You get me?

May I ask, what do u reckon he is gna do? Gut feel
I don't think it makes any difference when someone buys a house. It's not like it's 1952 when the only house someone owned was their home. It's really not that big of a commitment any more, especially with negative gearing for someone making $500,000+ per year.

I think he'll stay if we're still top four at round 11. If the wheels fall off before then I think he'll leave.
 
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So Selwood is a superior player to Dangerfield?
No. But he's not some slouch that the Vic media should be ignoring. I mean, he's not a Sylvia that no-one cares if he stays or goes.

They should be questioning why he's put off talks. They should be linking him to Geelong. They should be asking Simpson about him at every turn. It's fair game for "journalists"
 

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I understand the point, I just don't think it's reliable data or objective. There have been two people in the last five years who were "big one's" under free agency like conditions and you're basing everything on that ignoring everyone else because they weren't big ones. Why do they need to be "big one's" anyway? why does that make their decision any different than a top 50 or even top 100 player in the AFL? A sample size of two is **** all, meaning you have nothing unless you want to extend the size of the sample but you can't because it ****s your argument up.

Regardless, Ablett and Franklin moving clubs were both quite rare in circumstance. The only reason the Gold Coast could lure Ablett was because of the extended initial salary cap and the only reason Sydney lured Franklin was because of their COLA and they contracted him until he was 102. You're banking your whole argument on a shitty minute sample size of rare events. It's just a shit argument.

Who was last years big one? Frawley? you're out debating yourself if it is.
You're right mate to a certain extent, I dont disagree but you have to understand the majority of the clubs would love to have Danger, and thats very Important! Because whatever happens he will get massive cash!
My argument seems to have been lost, within our rebuttals!
Just don't think the guy has done or said anything that makes ME think he will stay!
At the same time, you can easily say he hasnt done or said anything that indicates he will leave!
That's where I think, the assumption he will leave stems from my point of view, because when I look at others with similar stAnding in the game as Danger, and they didn't stay then I just have to be realistic and assume he is following in their footsteps.
 

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Who knows, maybe Danger will stay in the end and will get caught up in the momentum; but these days he's taking a lot of unnecessary heat, unnecessary if you planned to stay. Which is what Watson is talking about. Why put yourself through that? It's not like you'll get any more money out of it.
There are more than two scenarios available though. It's not either he knows he's staying or he knows he's going because that assumes he knows, and has made up his mind.

I don't think knowing he's staying and holding off talks is a viable scenario because as you've pointed out it's pointless.

It's well known that he values performance and flags over money. In 2012, midway through the season Danger was convinced the Crows were going to go gang busters so he made the decision and stayed when he could of got more elsewhere. I think he either knows he's going or he's doing a repeat of 2012, seeing what the AFC's prospects look like.
 

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Danger is cultivating the best mullet at AFC since the later years of the Ayres tenure. One can only presume this is an obvious sign of his intention to stay in Adelaide.

For the record, the Walker mullet doesn't count. Was obviously taking the piss
 

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I don't think it makes any difference when someone buys a house. It's not like it's 1952 when the only house someone owned was their home. It's really not that big of a commitment any more, especially with negative gearing for someone making $500,000+ per year.

I think he'll stay if we're still top four at round 11. If the wheels fall off before then I think he'll leave.
Again your right mate, but we are talking about perception in this situation! Making a large investment in a different state, when you could possibly be leaving within a few months, sends some sort of message of intent, that you plan on being there long term.

I feel like danger has the AFC on their tippy toes, when we say that, if dont make finals or top 4 he will leave! Thats proper team first mantra
 
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