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Danger is cultivating the best mullet at AFC since the later years of the Ayres tenure. One can only presume this is an obvious sign of his intention to stay in Adelaide.

For the record, the Walker mullet doesn't count. Was obviously taking the piss
Try telling that to Tex's first born son when he has to explain why his name is pronounced EEVARN.
 

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Who knows, maybe Danger will stay in the end and will get caught up in the momentum; but these days he's taking a lot of unnecessary heat, unnecessary if you planned to stay. Which is what Watson is talking about. Why put yourself through that? It's not like you'll get any more money out of it.
The club doesn't seem to be really pushing the signatures of any of it's players. Douglas and Sloane are staying but still haven't actually officially put pen to paper, and neither have come out and specifically said that they're definitely staying (but have been a bit more positive in public than Danger). I'd be interested to know what sort of discussions the list management people and Dangerfield's management have actually had thus far.

I'm with you though, everyone know's Dangerfield's worth and delaying it won't really increase his monetary value. It's definitely more than just money influencing the decision.
 

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Is Ablett out of contract end of this year or next?

If it's this year, and he's done with the Suns then you wonder if the Cats are talking to him about a come home offer which would in turn affect what they can offer Danger.
 
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Danger's "worth" does change as the season progresses though doesn't it?

"Keep up the Brownlow medal winning form and we'll be sitting pretty. Just don't get injured ok Mealtick... I mean Patrick." - Manager
 

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Danger's "worth" does change as the season progresses though doesn't it?

"Keep up the Brownlow medal winning form and we'll be sitting pretty. Just don't get injured ok Mealtick... I mean Patrick." - Manager
So too with Hawkins and Rance. Interestingly according to the Lions Aish had a very very poor R1, just what you would want a player to be doing if you were trying to recruit them to your Club.
 

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Danger is cultivating the best mullet at AFC since the later years of the Ayres tenure. One can only presume this is an obvious sign of his intention to stay in Adelaide.

For the record, the Walker mullet doesn't count. Was obviously taking the piss



U WOT M8?
 

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Look I think it's great to be winning again. Sure it's 2 games we might have expected to win, but still winning with style feels good.

It can't do any harm if we keep up the feel good factor, in all areas it has to be a plus.
Maybe that will help get danger over the line?

But I care much more about the size of his contract. I don't want him to stay above the odds, because that has an impact down the line.

What we need to be is a destination that players want to come to, and our success or failure is the only thing that really matters.

If we become that, and danger wants out or wants more than we want to pay - no problem. If we become a destination someone/'s will just step in and take the cash on offer. one in, one out. It gives us leverage.

Become a destination and it doesn't matter if he stays or goes.

However the opposite is true. If you are not a destination club, if players don't choose or want to come to you; then it also doesn't matter if danger stays or goes.

In fact whichever way you look at it, it doesn't matter if he stays or goes. All that matters is getting our shit together.
 

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Look I think it's great to be winning again. Sure it's 2 games we might have expected to win, but still winning with style feels good.

It can't do any harm if we keep up the feel good factor, in all areas it has to be a plus.
Maybe that will help get danger over the line?

But I care much more about the size of his contract. I don't want him to stay above the odds, because that has an impact down the line.

What we need to be is a destination that players want to come to, and our success or failure is the only thing that really matters.

If we become that, and danger wants out or wants more than we want to pay - no problem. If we become a destination someone/'s will just step in and take the cash on offer. one in, one out. It gives us leverage.

Become a destination and it doesn't matter if he stays or goes.

However the opposite is true. If you are not a destination club, if players don't choose or want to come to you; then it also doesn't matter if danger stays or goes.

In fact whichever way you look at it, it doesn't matter if he stays or goes. All that matters is getting our shit together.
I think most are concerned that if danger leaves it confirms we are not a destination club and there will be no one in, one out type of outcome.
 
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But I care much more about the size of his contract. I don't want him to stay above the odds, because that has an impact down the line.
Just curious as to what you'd think world be best for the club in this regard?

What would you think would satisfy both parties in terms of years/dollars as it stands. Is say 1 mill a season over 5 years too much for this guy?

IMO having Danger in a Crows guernsey for the next 5 years is a fair recruiting tool in itself...

"Come to the AFC! We have a Danger!"
 

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The club doesn't seem to be really pushing the signatures of any of it's players. Douglas and Sloane are staying but still haven't actually officially put pen to paper, and neither have come out and specifically said that they're definitely staying (but have been a bit more positive in public than Danger). I'd be interested to know what sort of discussions the list management people and Dangerfield's management have actually had thus far.

I'm with you though, everyone know's Dangerfield's worth and delaying it won't really increase his monetary value. It's definitely more than just money influencing the decision.
I am almost certain Sloane admitted that they are in negotiations over his contract. However I think you will find that the club has a third of its list out of contract at any one time and Its who the media focuses on that make it look worse than what it is. The media isn't focused on Sloane nor Douglas which to me indicates a 'nothing to see here' issue and both are most likely in deep negotiations. I would suspect we would have found out by now had any of them put off negotiations, especially Sloane.
 

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Just curious as to what you'd think world be best for the club in this regard?

What would you think would satisfy both parties in terms of years/dollars as it stands. Is say 1 mill a season over 5 years too much for this guy?

IMO having Danger in a Crows guernsey for the next 5 years is a fair recruiting tool in itself...

"Come to the AFC! We have a Danger!"
The crows have to do anything they can to keep him. They couldn't afford to lose another player on the brink of some club success. The AFC have lost too many players over the years and would be a major body blow for the existing playing group that has had to deal with the Tippettgate affair and the loss of Gunston, Bock, Davis, Vince etc

To me Danger is in exactly the same position as what Boak was in 3 years ago. Boak could have easily left for greener pastures and possibly even scored a premiership, no one would have blamed him for leaving either. Yet he decided enough was enough and that the paying group needed to stick together for a chance at success. While the Crows squad is in better shape than what Ports was, whether Danger knows it or not, the AFC cant stand to lose another star player. If money truly isn't the issue, he has no reason not to sign now and he should know it.
 

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Danger's "worth" does change as the season progresses though doesn't it?

"Keep up the Brownlow medal winning form and we'll be sitting pretty. Just don't get injured ok Mealtick... I mean Patrick." - Manager
i don't think it would. Danger is a proven elite player, match winner and vote getter in every category. One bad year just means he's had one bad year. Doesn't mean he's no longer an elite player.
 

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i don't undrstand

i don't think it would. Danger is a proven elite player, match winner and vote getter in every category. One bad year just means he's had one bad year. Doesn't mean he's no longer an elite player.
He is at peak value anyway and will be unless he had multiple poor seasons.
 

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Just curious as to what you'd think world be best for the club in this regard?

What would you think would satisfy both parties in terms of years/dollars as it stands. Is say 1 mill a season over 5 years too much for this guy?

IMO having Danger in a Crows guernsey for the next 5 years is a fair recruiting tool in itself...

"Come to the AFC! We have a Danger!"
No player must be kept at all costs.

it doesn't matter where the line is that the club is comfortable with is, just that they set boundaries and stay within them. When you start going down the "oh it's just another 2 years, or it's only about 400k per etc" then you end up in a spiral with everyone else.

Take DMac do you think other players and agents didn't look at that with interest?
 
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i don't think it would. Danger is a proven elite player, match winner and vote getter in every category. One bad year just means he's had one bad year. Doesn't mean he's no longer an elite player.
He is at peak value anyway and will be unless he had multiple poor seasons.
I was also suggesting his "value" can go up too.

This first half of the year will be the best footy of his career, no doubt in my mind. I think there's motivation there for him to show the club: "look at me go! You need to retain me at all costs. We're flying along and I'm a massive part of it. You cant be great without me."

He's a once in a generational talent. And I don't buy the whole "money's not everything" line at all. I don't think he has any intention of leaving Adelaide without showcasing the need for us to pay through the nose. He knows he's that good.
 

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The club doesn't seem to be really pushing the signatures of any of it's players. Douglas and Sloane are staying but still haven't actually officially put pen to paper, and neither have come out and specifically said that they're definitely staying (but have been a bit more positive in public than Danger). I'd be interested to know what sort of discussions the list management people and Dangerfield's management have actually had thus far.

I'm with you though, everyone know's Dangerfield's worth and delaying it won't really increase his monetary value. It's definitely more than just money influencing the decision.
I agree. And I think it is strange that there seems to be zero hurry to get any of these contracts done. Dougies should be the simplest and yet even that isn't getting done. Does it all hinge on Dangers? If so, what if he is leaving? Suddenly we're going to have three guys who aren't signed and Danger suddenly says hey guess what I'm gone.
 

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I was also suggesting his "value" can go up too.

This first half of the year will be the best footy of his career, no doubt in my mind. I think there's motivation there for him to show the club: "look at me go! You need to retain me at all costs. We're flying along and I'm a massive part of it. You cant be great without me."

He's a once in a generational talent. And I don't buy the whole "money's not everything" line at all. I don't think he has any intention of leaving Adelaide without showcasing the need for us to pay through the nose. He knows he's that good.
I think he's already going to get as good as adelaide can pay regardless of how good this year is. Hasnt roo said he'll be adelaides first million dollar a year player? How much more could we afford to give?
 
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