Real Team

[pumped]

I have seen various best sides posted for next season and thought I would post mine. Have also given each player a percentage ranking on how real I believe they are. By this I mean how focassed they are in games. This doesnt relate to match fitness but to the effort they put in consistently to get the most out of their God given talents.

FB: Teague 90% O'hAilpin 90% Norman 30%
HB: Houlihan 60% Thornton 90% Lappin 90%
C: Simpson 75% Kouta 75% Waite 70%
HF: Campo 55% Whitnall 70% Walker 65%
FF: Davies 60% Fevola 50% Deluca 85%
R: French 85% Stevens 60% Scotland 60%
INT: Prendergast 90% Sporn 75% Carazzo 80% Bentick 80%

Chambers ? Longmuir ? Blackwell ? Draft picks ? Morell 55% McGrath 70% Bannister 60% Livingston 60%

nb; Some of the low percentages are due to lack of self belief others just bad attitudes or victim mentality.

 

[pumped]

Sorry,

Forgot Johnson and Bowyer. Both would be in the emergencies. Johnson lacks self belief but has ability. Think he suffered with confidence after about round 6 or 7 when found himself benched alot of the time.[55%] Bowyer lacking on the ability side but puts in as best he can. [85%]

 

[Kooley]

For a start Carlos will not play full-back next year. He looked all at sea playing deep in defence last year. Secondly I disagree with giving a percentage to players on effort put in on the ground. Nearly all players who cross the white line give 110 per cent for the team. Players who have more natural ability (Nick Stevens) just appear to do it a little easier than say a battler like(Prenda). Doesn't mean they aren't trying any less.
As far as giving Karl Norman 30% effort, well that's just ridiculous.

 

[DIG]

For a start Carlos will not play full-back next year. He looked all at sea playing deep in defence last year. Secondly I disagree with giving a percentage to players on effort put in on the ground. Nearly all players who cross the white line give 110 per cent for the team. Players who have more natural ability (Nick Stevens) just appear to do it a little easier than say a battler like(Prenda). Doesn't mean they aren't trying any less.
As far as giving Karl Norman 30% effort, well that's just ridiculous.

totally agree.

And Camporeale 55%? What a crock. pumped - you just don't like him, that's all it is.

 

[pumped]

Everyone is intitled to their opinion. For mine I think it is delusional to think that most players put in 110%. Why would players be any different to people in other walks of life. Do you think that most people put in 110% in life?

With regards to Campo I think he is a good player who could still be great. Norman in my opinion is a very talented player but is lost as a person. Once again just my opinion but I am very strong on this one.

With regards to Carlos this was just a hunch and not based on performances. However I would expect that he would have been all at sea in any position at the start of last year.

 

[juzza316]

Everyone is intitled to their opinion. For mine I think it is delusional to think that most players put in 110%. Why would players be any different to people in other walks of life. Do you think that most people put in 110% in life?

With regards to Campo I think he is a good player who could still be great. Norman in my opinion is a very talented player but is lost as a person. Once again just my opinion but I am very strong on this one.

With regards to Carlos this was just a hunch and not based on performances. However I would expect that he would have been all at sea in any position at the start of last year.

And what gives you the impression that Norman is lost as a person??? Do you know him personally? Is he going to be grilled forever on his past indescretions? He is only young and has done a couple of dumb things, but you dont know if he is lost or not.
And even if he was lost as a person, how does that mean that he only puts in 30%???

Looks like you've just pulled these figures out your arse!!!

 

[Kooley]

Pumped, I said nearly all players will give 110% at AFL level. If not they fall by the wayside and are sure enough gone from the system in a year or 2 and are playing crap bush or suburban footy somewhere sucking p.iss with their mates. Campo, Stevens and Kouta wouldn't have played as many games as they have and have been as good as they have been if they only have put in 55%, 60% and 75% respectively. As far as Karl Norman is concerned he busts his guts out playing in defence for the Blues. To see him attack the footy the way he does, to lunge at the last split second to effect a spoil suggests to me that he is giving a little bit more than 30%.

 

[Lajon]

norman 30%??

what games have you been watching him?

 

[pumped]

Hi Guys,

My initial post was to create some discussion which it seems it has. With regards to percentages I had to come up with some sort of estimate.

With Karl he has played at well above 30% on various occassions and my estimate is based on later season form. I also have concerns that if he doesnt ground himself this will continue into next season. Once again just my opinion. We have already lost one potential star through a lack of grounding it would be tragic if Karl did not make use of his undoubted ability.

To Kooley I see where you are coming from but do believe that some players can have long careers and not give 100%. Some players with incredible talent have been able to have 10 year careers but fall short of their potential. It is players with moderate ability who dont make long careers unless they are motivated.

I would love to see Fevola, Stevens, Norman and Camporeale all reach their potential. If this group could lift even 10% it would make an amazing difference to our fortunes.

 

[Kooley]

To Kooley I see where you are coming from but do believe that some players can have long careers and not give 100%. Some players with incredible talent have been able to have 10 year careers but fall short of their potential. It is players with moderate ability who dont make long careers unless they are motivated.

I would love to see Fevola, Stevens, Norman and Camporeale all reach their potential. If this group could lift even 10% it would make an amazing difference to our fortunes.

Don't underestimate the amount of effort these players put in. Stevens and Camporeale for example are two of the hardest working midfielders in the competition. Teague may back into a pack and we see this as total couage and committment and rightly so, but it takes more courage and effort to push through the pain barrier to run and run all day when there appears to be nothing left in the tank.

To a certain extent i can understand your concern with Fev but his lack of effort sometimes when things aren't going his way stems from a self belief thing which is quite ironic considering his off field confidence. Hopefully in the next part of his development he can overcome this. But one thing is for certain when Fevola runs out on to the field he wants to give it his all.

 

[pumped]

Don't underestimate the amount of effort these players put in. Stevens and Camporeale for example are two of the hardest working midfielders in the competition. Teague may back into a pack and we see this as total couage and committment and rightly so, but it takes more courage and effort to push through the pain barrier to run and run all day when there appears to be nothing left in the tank.

To a certain extent i can understand your concern with Fev but his lack of effort sometimes when things aren't going his way stems from a self belief thing which is quite ironic considering his off field confidence. Hopefully in the next part of his development he can overcome this. But one thing is for certain when Fevola runs out on to the field he wants to give it his all.

I agree that Fev and in fact most players want to give their all. I also agree that it is Fev's lack of self belief that many times causes his apparent lack of effort. In fact I think this is the case with most players who dont perform to their potential.

A secure person is the most likely to perform at their optimum in any aspect of life. My belief is that if a player has ability but is lacking in self belief then it is vital that every effort is made to reach the player in order to give him the tools to find self belief.

In my opinion Karl, Fev and a few others in our side do lack faith in themselves. This is also shown off field where I believe some of their actions show a lack of confidence. Confident people IMO dont act in ways to stand out from the crowd. In Fev's case I have seen him be fantastic with kids and older people he just seems to lose himself a bit when out of his comfort zone where he feels the need to impress.

 

[Dooky]

you also forgot simonwiggins, who is nowher near the most talented at the club but i reckon you cannot quetion his focus and attack on the footy. For me he leads the club with 91%.

 

[pumped]

you also forgot simonwiggins, who is nowher near the most talented at the club but i reckon you cannot quetion his focus and attack on the footy. For me he leads the club with 91%.

Hey Dooky,

I think you are probably correct with his desire. He is a player who confuses me a bit though. At times he has dash and flair and at other times seems tentative. My instict is that he is a sensitive type of person who can lose confidence in himself. I certainly dont doubt his integrity though and feel that he could have enough natural talent if he plays without nerves.

 

[Jimmae]

Thornton - 600%

 

[gadj1976]

I'm interested in how the guys are progressing.

Anyone who's able to keep me posted on the progress of Fisher, Waite, Livingstone, Thornton, Whitnall etc would be greatfully appreciated.

Can you please advise whether they're in full training, gained or lost weight (I know Whits has), injury updates etc.

I'm in Adelaide but only get updates on Adel and Port Adel squads.