News Record Melbourne sponsorship from a Bulldogs supporter!

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  1. Boof09

    Boof09 Senior List

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  2. Dancing Dougy

    Dancing Dougy Club Legend

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    Yeah I heard about this, such a terrible shame :(

    Debt... Gone in one fell swoop!!!
     
  3. UnCani

    UnCani Team Captain

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    Seriously. We cant manage our own players pre seasons and medical checkups.

    Who on earth is capable of closing a multi million dollar deal at the Bulldogs?

    Rose is gone. Smorgo has never done anything himself. Nice passionate guy and all but he was born into it.


    Our off field leadership is non-existent. Until this is fixed …
     
  4. hoianbulldog

    hoianbulldog Premiership Player

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    Smorgo has never done anything himself. Nice passionate guy and all but he was born into it.

    What exactly do you mean by that?
     
  5. TheLoungeLizard

    TheLoungeLizard The world's most handsome man

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    But didn't the dogs re-sign with Mission a few weeks back?
    So, pointless by the fellow to signed up to Melbourne to try and chase the Dogs.
     
  6. TempleKelvington

    TempleKelvington Norm Smith Medallist


    Dimma please mate, give it up. I mean BF must be a last resort for your uniformed rants surely?
     
  7. Dogs_r_barking

    Dogs_r_barking Premiers 2016

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    If you want to see how far back we have fallen, take a look at he coach press conferences, look at the backdrop of all their sponsors, the average club has four - we have two.

    I am sick of hearing we don't have money for personnel, so where has the money gone that they would have got from playing finals the last five years, or the growth in membership? Anyone else concerned by the fact that our financial governance is so poor that an employee can cipher out $500,000 without anyone noticing.

    Time for a refresh of large proportions.
     
  8. 100action

    100action Norm Smith Medallist

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    I thought there was a limit on the advertisement slots for sponsors? Since Mission is paying a relatively large amount for a major sponsor they get more advertisement slots like you see on the backboards and stuff.

    Pretty sure Kapersky + that other thing doesnt come close to Mission especially after the new upgraded deal. I am also confident there is a limit on major sponsors, or else Collingwood will have every sponsor under the sun.
     
  9. Dogs_r_barking

    Dogs_r_barking Premiers 2016

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    Thanks 100 - that puts a more positive spin on things:):thumbsu:
     
  10. Guido

    Guido Club Legend

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    Reports had our new deal for 2012-2014 at $6.3mil for three years - that's front and back of the jumper, plus naming rights to the learning centre.

    According to the Footy Show, this Melbourne deal is just for the back of their jumper. The front would be worth another million p.a., at the very least.


    Where are you getting this from to be confident?

    There's no limit on a number of sponsors - as long as each sponsor is happy with their split of the club's marketing, a club can sign as many as they want.
    Collingwood has pretty much signed every sponsor under the sun.

    http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/sponsors/tabid/8235/default.aspx
     
  11. 100action

    100action Norm Smith Medallist

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    my bad on the limit then but some of those Collingwood sponsors will have to forgo slots and placements just to associate with Collingwood if I am correct?, there is only so much learning centers, back of jumper, front of jumpers deals etc you can put stuff on?
     

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  12. Guido

    Guido Club Legend

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    That's what I said, as long as they're happy to accept what they're offered (Mick's lapel, the coaches box signage, website promotion), there's no limit.

    There's nothing to say that someone spending a fortune on getting their name on the players' jock straps is getting good value for their advertising dollar, but fools and their money and all that.
     
  13. Guido

    Guido Club Legend

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    ... because Dimma must be the only member out there that has reservations about the president's performance.

    And why is every question of Smorgon "uninformed"?

    In the last number of years, another "smaller" club (similar number of supporters), Melbourne, have truly shown us up in terms of management. They've had a worse draw and TV fixtures, they've languished at the bottom of their cycle while we've finished top six in 4 out of the last 6 seasons, and yet over this period they've wiped their debt while our liabilities have skyrocketed to over $13mil.

    If the AFL turned around tomorrow and said "all discretionary funding is gone, no more annual assistance, no more going guarantor to your loans", our club would be dead or merged within a week. I'm sorry, but the reality is there's going to be some people that don't think "good" management takes a club to that point. And Dimma isn't the only one of them.
     
  14. Ant_

    Ant_ Super Moderator

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    *Bump* Interesting turn events with this sponsor. Think I'm happy we stuck with Mission. :D
     
  15. 100action

    100action Norm Smith Medallist

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    Haha, it is also going around that EnergyWatch cannot foot the $2m per year as agreed upon, the deal did sound too good to be true for a club like Melbourne at the time.

    We are so lucky from 2012-2014 mission is paying us $6.3m that not only trumps the shit out of Energy Watch but we do not have to deal with this racist CEO bs plus our sponsor actually pays up.
     
  16. MaddAdam

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    You guys wisely avoiding EnergyWatch

    Interesting comments from Smorgon in the Sunday Hun about how Polis approached you guys about EnergyWatch sponsorship and you did some fairly basic due dilligence and then said "thanks but no thanks".

    Does anyone know any more on this?
     
  17. Igloo

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    Re: You guys wisely avoiding EnergyWatch

    I've been away, and missed this whole EnergyWatch thing. What actually happened with it?
     
  18. Werewolf

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    Re: You guys wisely avoiding EnergyWatch

    Can you provide a link to the HS story? Glad we dodged that bullet :eek:

    There's a thread already. You can merge if you want, it's on page 2 atm.
     
  19. cleveland

    cleveland Brownlow Medallist

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  20. Mike__

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    Re: You guys wisely avoiding EnergyWatch

    * Thread has been merged rather than closed.
     
  21. MaddAdam

    MaddAdam Brownlow Medallist

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    I am astounded that the Dees didn't even do basic due dilligence.

    From what was in the paper, Smorgon smelt a rat about the bloke from day one and made a few enquiries before saying thanks but no thanks.

    You guys, like us, can't afford to pass on dollars too often so for Smorgon to do that is telling.

    Good work.
     
  22. Sentinel

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    I doubt Energywatch would have been offering us the same deal they gave to Melbourne, given we had already signed up Mission as our primary sponsor whose brand is displayed basically everywhere around the club. I'm guessing that the Energywatch offer to us would have been a lot less substantial, as they wouldn't have had the chance to put their logo on our jumpers.

    Its all just speculation, but I wonder what the club would have done, say if Mission hadn't signed on, we were desperate and Energywatch had $2mil per year on the table. That's a lot of money to say no to for a club like ours, and Melbourne. Hindsight is great but we won't ever know whether the Demons took a calculated risk that didn't pay off, or just didn't look far enough into it.
     
  23. Dazb86

    Dazb86 Brownlow Medallist

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    I wonder if Polis has a bigfooty account. He did have the Jurrah photoshop up on his facebook page which was taken from Bay13.

    Apparently he's a dogs supporter.
     
  24. Dogs_r_barking

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    Considering he comes from around Seaford way, I can't see why he would be a dogs supporter. Considering some of the remarks he made, I couldn't see him barracking for our club.

    Met him once when he was doing the book circuit about the book he wrote. Was a skinny stressed out kid, can't believe he has made such a mess of things.
     
  25. Dancing Dougy

    Dancing Dougy Club Legend

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    I grew up in the eastern suburbs and now live near Seaford. Should I barrack for StKilda? :D
     

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