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Analysis Red-time goals

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Apr 29, 2008
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I'm sure I'm not the only Crows fan who has felt, over the years, that we give up way more red-time goals than other clubs, and more than we manage to score ourselves. But over the last couple of months it's felt like the opposite, like we're the team getting those red-time goals and going into breaks (especially half-time breaks) with the momentum and good vibes that they bring.

I decided to do a (very basic) analysis of red-time goals in our matches for this year. We've played 18 matches, I've separated it into our first nine matches, and our next nine matches. Note that we went 6-3 in the first and 7-2 in the latter, so it's quite a fair comparison. I've (somewhat arbitrarily) decided that "red time" corresponds to the last six minutes of real time per quarter (so for example if a quarter goes 34 minutes, it starts from the 28 minute mark).

The main summary up-front:

First nine games: We scored 19 red-time goals, and had 24 red-time goals scored against us.
Next nine games: We scored 19 red-time goals, and had 9 red-time goals scored against us.

There is an immediate story to tell there. We're not scoring any more red-time goals, but we sure are preventing them! I'm sure most people here can remember us managing to give up three quick goals to NM at the end of Q1 at the start of the year, or us allowing Port to score a red-time goal in every quarter in the last Showdown, keeping both of those sides alive when they should have been buried. It seems we have tightened up on this since round 9 at least.

To drill down further, four of those red-time goals from the more recent set of nine games came in one match, round 10 against Collingwood (while we only kicked one). So in the last eight rounds, we've only conceded five of them, including four rounds where we conceded none. In the first nine rounds, there was only one match where we conceded none (the GWS match where they only managed four goals total).

Another interesting angle is to look specifically at red-time goals in the second quarter, i.e. goals right on the cusp of half time. To me, these are the most damaging red-time goals. From the first nine games, we scored only three of these, while conceding five. From the next nine games, we have scored eight of them, while conceding only three. Massive turnaround.

I don't have an explanation for any of this, but it sure is a nice change! Long may it continue.


Raw data:

RoundOur red-time goalsOpponentTheir red-time goals
12 (Q1, Q4)St Kilda4 (Q1, Q3, Q3, Q4)
25 (Q1, Q2, Q3, Q4, Q4)Essendon2 (Q3, Q4)
31 (Q3)North Melbourne4 (Q1, Q1, Q1, Q2)
42 (Q1, Q3)Gold Coast1 (Q2)
51 (Q3)Geelong4 (Q1, Q2, Q2, Q4)
61 (Q3)GWS0
71 (Q4)Fremantle4 (Q1, Q1, Q3, Q3)
85 (Q2, Q3, Q3, Q3, Q4)Carlton1 (Q4)
91 (Q2)Port Adelaide4 (Q1, Q2, Q2, Q4)

RoundOur red-time goalsOpponentTheir red-time goals
101 (Q2)Collingwood4 (Q1, Q1, Q2, Q2)
115 (Q2, Q3, Q3, Q3, Q4)West Coast1 (Q2)
124 (Q1, Q2, Q2, Q3)Sydney0
131 (Q2)Brisbane2 (Q3, Q3)
141 (Q1)Hawthorn0
163 (Q2, Q3, Q4)Richmond1 (Q3)
170Melbourne0
182 (Q2, Q3)Western Bulldogs1 (Q4)
192 (Q2, Q3)Gold Coast0
 
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Nice analysis but what are the results if you look at goals conceeded/scored in the last 30 seconds of a quarter, they're the ones that have most fans going

What The Fuck Wtf GIF


I definitely believe...and it is only from seeing with my own eyes but, I believe we are getting much better at that this season
 
Nice analysis but what are the results if you look at goals conceeded/scored in the last 30 seconds of a quarter, they're the ones that have most fans going

What The **** Wtf GIF


I definitely believe...and it is only from seeing with my own eyes but, I believe we are getting much better at that this season
Your video is not convincing, poor acting. What you need is the reality of Chris Scott! ;)
 
Nice analysis but what are the results if you look at goals conceeded/scored in the last 30 seconds of a quarter, they're the ones that have most fans going

What The **** Wtf GIF


I definitely believe...and it is only from seeing with my own eyes but, I believe we are getting much better at that this season
This is exactly what I was thinking. Would love the stats for the last 1 minute of game time (difficult to find as afltables and the AFL app use real time).

But like you I also feel like we're getting so much better at not letting them get scored on us this year, and at the same time managing to do more ourselves.
 
This is exactly what I was thinking. Would love the stats for the last 1 minute of game time (difficult to find as afltables and the AFL app use real time).

But like you I also feel like we're getting so much better at not letting them get scored on us this year, and at the same time managing to do more ourselves.

Yeah, I used to yell at the TV more in the last minute of quarters than I do lately
 
Great analysis! Was actually thinking the same recently - esp after Dawson's goal just on half-time last week - when we'd usually be the ones scrambling to stop an easy entry for our opposition. Wonder also if it used to coincide with RoB being rested in last 5 minutes of quarters, and hence less clearances our way? Have we changed it up...i.e. RoB being rested earlier in the qtr, then returning for the last few mins, or TT improving his ruck work in the centre? Be interesting to see if there's any correlation.
 
Great analysis! Was actually thinking the same recently - esp after Dawson's goal just on half-time last week - when we'd usually be the ones scrambling to stop an easy entry for our opposition. Wonder also if it used to coincide with RoB being rested in last 5 minutes of quarters, and hence less clearances our way? Have we changed it up...i.e. RoB being rested earlier in the qtr, then returning for the last few mins, or TT improving his ruck work in the centre? Be interesting to see if there's any correlation.
Reckon our improved defensive setups are the major factor.
 

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