I was one that was suggesting him as part of the trade, but it wasn't because I didn't think he had plenty of improvement in him. He was looking like having a break-out year last year until he tore his hammy off the bone against you guys in the preseason game and he was very much like Armitage in that he'd genuinely improved steadily from season to season and there was really no telling how long he would continue to improve until he hit his ceiling.He's improved and good on him for doing so, but while we were saying we preferred pick 5 (we're still very happy with the result in Francis anyway) Saints supporters were more than happy to get rid of him saying he wasn't going to improve drastically and was surplus to needs. If you're going to make out there's an egg on face situation, then make sure you realise it works both ways.
But I just believed that if you want quality you have to give up something of quality and I put him forward as a genuine option who I believed had enough quality (when combined with something else, like our 2nd-rounder, or Hickey), but got pretty much ridiculed for the suggestion, as if we were just offering up our scraps- for someone who I didn't believe, and still don't, was worth pick 5, given all the uncertainty around WADA and all his personal baggage.