Player Watch Reilly O'Brien - Re-Signed to End of 2028

[beartoo]

The plural is ruckmen.

 

[beartoo]

Jacobs and ROB in the same side seems unlikely. However, I hope we give ROB 6--8 games, both to keep ROB interested and to rest Jacobs.
The management of Sam last season was disgraceful.

 

[Vhaluus]

You are trolling off topic on an O'Brien thread about JJ.

What if Sloane loses form, what if Talia loses form... You are just making meaningless off topic crystal ball trolling to seek attention.

Why would I refute a prediction about the future? It's not like you can claim it will be true!

I didnt make the prediction nor did i necissarily agree with it. I merely followed up on another poster who did make that prediction. so why are you attacking me and not him?

Try to stop letting your bias blind you to reality

 

[Sanders]

Agreed we rushed him back and ran him into the ground.
To finish 4th in total hit outs and 6th in average hit out for the year, he had a better season than some are remembering.

It's long been established that hitouts are the least useful stat in the game

His hitouts to advantage is where to start any analysis from

 

[Scorpus]

It's long been established that hitouts are the least useful stat in the game

What about bounces?

 

[Doctor B]

It's long been established that hitouts are the least useful stat in the game

His hitouts to advantage is where to start any analysis from

Do you have his hit out to advantage stats?

 

[Sanders]

Do you have his hit out to advantage stats?

No; but that doesn't make the hit outs any more useful

 

[Bob Neil]

If ROB played 4-8 solid games for us in 2017 and projected as a decent potential first ruck in the league could we get a pick in the 20s for him at the end of the year?

 

[Sanders]

If ROB played 4-8 solid games for us in 2017 and projected as a decent potential first ruck in the league could we get a pick in the 20s for him at the end of the year?

If he's projecting as a decent first ruck we'd get more than that, and I'm not sure it would be him we'd look to sell in that scenario

 

[dylan123]

Would we really get that much/more? Would that situation really be much different to that of when we got Jacobs? Think Jacobs was on the rookie list when we got him but he has a few pretty decent games including a really strong one against Sydney in the finals for memory.

 

[Coopers]

One would suggest if ROB is good enough to be a first Ruck, then he'd be ready for that role in 2018.
Also we won't have both him and Sauce in the team.
So... one of them goes. ROB will ask for a trade if he thinks he won't play.
<blasphemy>We could trade Sauce. We'd get a fair bit for him. Also we'd have another top line ruckman ready to go for 8+ more years.</blasphemy>

I don't see us holding onto both if they both need 90% game time and there is one position between them.

 

[ad victoriam]

One would suggest if ROB is good enough to be a first Ruck, then he'd be ready for that role in 2018.
Also we won't have both him and Sauce in the team.
So... one of them goes. ROB will ask for a trade if he thinks he won't play.
<blasphemy>We could trade Sauce. We'd get a fair bit for him. Also we'd have another top line ruckman ready to go for 8+ more years.</blasphemy>

I don't see us holding onto both if they both need 90% game time and there is one position between them.

6 years, As I believe there will be a Ruckman on our list in 4years and ready to go in 6 years that will be better than Both Jacobs and ROB, and we get first dibs on him thru the new Crows academy from our indigenous and multicultural recruiting zones. a young 14year old at 194cm with the Agility of a Mid with pace to spare.

 

[GreyCrow]

The Future holds a shovel for the Port Adelaide Council now , as to ROB he will do ok.

 

[EddieWalker]

6 years, As I believe there will be a Ruckman on our list in 4years and ready to go in 6 years that will be better than Both Jacobs and ROB, and we get first dibs on him thru the new Crows academy from our indigenous and multicultural recruiting zones. a young 14year old at 194cm with the Agility of a Mid with pace to spare.

OK I'm intrigued...

 

[ad victoriam]

Diing Akur I Read these 2 articles then ask a few quiet questions, Mate who is a very good judge stated this kid can play, Only question is in keeping him in Aussie Rule Football. Mind you he also said Deng Yong is just a good, Both young and Tall, very tall and training at the Crows Acadamy.

http://www.afc.com.au/news/2016-11-15/crows-launch-next-generation-academy

OK I'm intrigued...

 

[dogs105]

6 years, As I believe there will be a Ruckman on our list in 4years and ready to go in 6 years that will be better than Both Jacobs and ROB, and we get first dibs on him thru the new Crows academy from our indigenous and multicultural recruiting zones. a young 14year old at 194cm with the Agility of a Mid with pace to spare.

We don't get first dibs do we? Only if they're undrafted?

 

[ad victoriam]

We don't get first dibs do we? Only if they're undrafted?

We get first dibs will be the same as the eastern state academies or the Father-sons
They are a part of our newly setup academy and come from the Crow zone.

 

[Bicks]

 

[MRB37]

Do you have his hit out to advantage stats?

During the home and away season Jacobs averaged 8.7 hitouts to advantage a game (from 32 hitouts). Goldstein, Naitanui, Mumford and Hampson were all above 10 a game and Gawn led the league with 14 per game.

Small sample size, but ROB averaged 5 a game (from 23 hitouts, 21% HTA rate). He had 7 against Archie Smith, but only 3 against Sandilands.

 

[Sanders]

During the home and away season Jacobs averaged 8.7 hitouts to advantage a game (from 32 hitouts). Goldstein, Naitanui, Mumford and Hampson were all above 10 a game and Gawn led the league with 14 per game.

Small sample size, but ROB averaged 5 a game (from 23 hitouts, 21% HTA rate). He had 7 against Archie Smith, but only 3 against Sandilands.

See that's interesting. We know sauce doesn't do much around the ground and this shows as a tap ruckman he's not in first rank either

He's got plenty to prove this year.

 

[SydCrow]

See that's interesting. We know sauce doesn't do much around the ground and this shows as a tap ruckman he's not in first rank either

He's got plenty to prove this year.

And he's crap with ball in hand. Gets caught often trying to kick. Needs to get on his bike this year for sure.

 

[dylan123]

See that's interesting. We know sauce doesn't do much around the ground and this shows as a tap ruckman he's not in first rank either

He's got plenty to prove this year.

And he's crap with ball in hand. Gets caught often trying to kick. Needs to get on his bike this year for sure.

I think he's alright around the ground myself. He doesn't hit contests/packs like I'd ideally like from a ruckman gets involved in the link play quite a bit and seems to do alright with it although like most things for him, I felt that dropped off this year. In general I've always found it a little frustrating at how often we go to him in the link up plays given he's a lumbering tall when we've got plenty of midfielders around but to his credit, he does better than most ruckman in that situation.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

See that's interesting. We know sauce doesn't do much around the ground and this shows as a tap ruckman he's not in first rank either

He's got plenty to prove this year.

I wouldn't say he provides nothing but this is another area he dropped a little this year. He's far from the best ruckman in terms impact away from his tap work but he's better than most or at least he was.

 

[Sanders]

I wouldn't say he provides nothing but this is another area he dropped a little this year. He's far from the best ruckman in terms impact away from his tap work but he's better than most or at least he was.

Let's just say on balance he's a decentish middle of the road ruckman.

 

[Footypie32]

Just watching the Brisbane JLT game again and realising how much growing ROB still has to do. I'm not sure if many will give him this, but in 2-3 years time he will be a very big unit. Is already listed as heavier than Sauce and doesn't mind throwing himself into the contest. May end up as a bit of a late bloomer, but I think he has the tools.