Renewable Energy Target.

[Power Raid]

china

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/06/chi...hores--even-as-investment-falls-globally.html

also worthwhile looking back at forecasts and the journey to predict the future. Not to mention the transport bottle necks.

https://www.circleofblue.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/coal_bohai_report.pdf

 

[madmug]

The Chinese can't be relied upon to tell the truth about their emissions. The BBC recently reported that building work has restarted at hundreds of Chinese coal-fired power stations.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-45640706

If you really believe we need to set an example based on false data you truly are a mad mug.

And the option is to do nothing?. Thats clever.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

 

[madmug]

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We're always going to be in trouble when you have the relevant minister just dismiss such findings & prattle on aimlessly about cheap power.

But thats ok, this Government has a lot of praying power. I'm sure they think the big fella in the sky will fix everything. Scomo & Abbotto will just give him a call.

 

[medusala]

Meanwhile in China.

China's % of Coal as a source of electricity in 2010 was 80%, In 2017 it was said to be 60%.

So what? Its absolute numbers that count.

We are a developed nation with a high standard of living. We need to set an example, not expect 3rd world people to continue to live in much less modern conditions than we do.

That noone will follow. Oh yes, ever so rational.

We're always going to be in trouble when you have the relevant minister just dismiss such findings & prattle on aimlessly about cheap power.

But thats ok, this Government has a lot of praying power. I'm sure they think the big fella in the sky will fix everything. Scomo & Abbotto will just give him a call.

NOTHNG Australia does will make a difference. It really is that simple.

You may as well light candles and create hashtags rather than have a carbon tax. Both will have EXACTLY the same effect on global temperatures.

 

[madmug]

So what? Its absolute numbers that count.



That noone will follow. Oh yes, ever so rational.



NOTHNG Australia does will make a difference. It really is that simple.

You may as well light candles and create hashtags rather than have a carbon tax. Both will have EXACTLY the same effect on global temperatures.

So you don't try, you don't set an example, you ignore your own children's futures.

What a depressingly stupid & self defeating view of things.

Like the Abbott types, sad. Indeed, worse than sad.

 

[medusala]

So you don't try, you don't set an example, you ignore your own children's futures.

No, far from it. Why make them poorer for no good reason at all?

What a depressingly stupid & self defeating view of things.

Depressingly stupid is making Australia poorer and getting nothing in return. HTF is that logical?

 

[madmug]

No, far from it. Why make them poorer for no good reason at all?



Depressingly stupid is making Australia poorer and getting nothing in return. HTF is that logical?

Do you know anything about risk analysis?

Ignoring the projected consequences of inaction on climate change, is the height & very definition of stupidity.

 

[medusala]

Do you know anything about risk analysis?

Ignoring the projected consequences of inaction on climate change, is the height & very definition of stupidity.

Yes in fact I do.

Australia having a carbon tax is like buying an expensive insurance policy knowing that the insurer will NEVER pay out.

You seem utterly incapable of grasping that Australia reducing its emissions to zero would have NO effect on global temps.

Unless China, USA, Russia etc act then it doesnt matter what we do. It really is as simple as that

 

[blured]

Yes in fact I do.

Australia having a carbon tax is like buying an expensive insurance policy knowing that the insurer will NEVER pay out.

You seem utterly incapable of grasping that Australia reducing its emissions to zero would have NO effect on global temps.

Unless China, USA, Russia etc act then it doesnt matter what we do. It really is as simple as that

Yes let's do nothing what a pathetic attitude

 

[madmug]

Yes in fact I do.

Australia having a carbon tax is like buying an expensive insurance policy knowing that the insurer will NEVER pay out.

You seem utterly incapable of grasping that Australia reducing its emissions to zero would have NO effect on global temps.

Unless China, USA, Russia etc act then it doesnt matter what we do. It really is as simple as that

As can be said, we need to be part of the cure, not part of the complaint.

Just ignoring whats been projected is nearly as silly as saying we cant do anything. We need to do our bit. Invest in new technology & adapt older technology such as pumped-storage hydro. That'd be even cheaper than building new coal power stations.


Paying a carbon tax is recognising such pollution has a cost. To not do so is a false economy. Its like ignoring depreciation. Its got to be paid for at sometime in the future. Better to start now than leave it all to our kids.

 

[medusala]

Paying a carbon tax is recognising such pollution has a cost. To not do so is a false economy. Its like ignoring depreciation. Its got to be paid for at sometime in the future.

We can pay all we like. IT WONT MAKE A DIFFERENCE unless Russia, China etc do something and they wont.

 

[QuietB]

We're always going to be in trouble when you have the relevant minister just dismiss such findings & prattle on aimlessly about cheap power.

But thats ok, this Government has a lot of praying power. I'm sure they think the big fella in the sky will fix everything. Scomo & Abbotto will just give him a call.

I love this cartoon

 

[QuietB]

We can pay all we like. IT WONT MAKE A DIFFERENCE unless Russia, China etc do something and they wont.

The flip side of that argument is that if Australia is so small and irrelevant then it should be easy and cheap to fix

 

[go you pups]

Lel, keep on hiding then

 

[QuietB]

Lel, keep on hiding then

Melissa Price has three options;

1. Claim climate change is a myth and look like your typical LNP nut job
2. Concede climate change is real and get sacked
3. Hide

 

[AM]

Really good piece by John Menadue on the lobbying power of the mining industry and its close links to the reactionaries.