Review Reviews and Views v Eagles

[Skoob]

You fit in that 10% then Skoob. Thanks for letting us know.

Thanks for dropping by. The booing was noted by many, not just one.
It was unexpected and uncalled for. No not every club supporter base becomes unfair and uncooth just because 10% of the crowd does.
And if you want to come hear to start telling people on their board that they are stupid you should show yourself the door.

 

[Caiphus]

Happened last year to Jobe Watson too... Eagles crowds have a history of that crap.

 

[Elixuh]

Black looked at home rucking against nic nat.

 

[BrisbaneLion9636]

Black looked at home rucking against nic nat.

I'm so glad Natanui didn't jump at the contest. A great sportsman

 

[whatboutbob]

You fit in that 10% then Skoob. Thanks for letting us know.

I think you'd do well to remember you're a visitor to the Lions board. Pull your head in or move on.

 

[Balony_pony16]

I am really sick of the eagles dominating us year in year out

 

[lionshine]

Changes vs Richmond(Lets swing the axe! Nothing to lose now the season is over for us).

In Rich Lisle Karnezis Beams Green Docherty
Out Rockliff Magurie Lester Crisp Banfield Harwood

Rockliff is out because of his hand. Needs a rest IMO. Maguire injured. Lester needs to rest for just about the remainder of this season methinks. Crisp should go back to the reserves. He has had enough of a taste to know what to work on in the pre season. Banfield must go back to the reserves and truly earn his spot in the seniors this time around. Harwood has been outstanding in the backline since moving there but his form has dropped off slightly these past couple of games and he either needs a rest or he needs a run in the reserves but I don't want him kept out of the seniors for to long! Just give him 1 or 2 weeks rest to see how Docherty goes.

Rich instantly returns and he is a good like for like inclusion for Rocky who is out injured. Maguire going out means Merrett to go back and Lisle to come in and finally get his chance that he has earned. Karnezis to come in as a like for like for Lester after some terrific form in the magoos. Green has had good form in the reserves and can have more of an impact then Banfield IMO in the seniors. Docherty to get his chance to see how he goes. Give Drummond more of a rest to insure he gets a full and solid pre season under his belt

 

[Elixuh]

I'm so glad Natanui didn't jump at the contest. A great sportsman

Blacky just seemed to hug him awwwww

 

[lionshine]

I am really sick of the eagles dominating us year in year out

We had won 6 of the last 8 before today. What are you talking about?

 

[karix]

Yes because its not like every supporter base in the country isnt the same. Get 20k+ at a match and watch them all sheep and boo when someone else does. Do you really think any other supporter base is any different? Do you also really think that on an individual basis that any more than 10% of that group(the part that really does have no idea whats going on at the footy) actually think Brown did anything wrong?

We boo at our games. At umpires, and occasionally at Milne (obviously its deserved). I can honestly tell you I have never heard the commentators say in complete amazement "Is the crowd boo'ing at Brown?" That's how obvious it was.

I think it's pathetic that you come to our board to try and defend the appalling behaviour of the West Coast fans at the game. Very similar to Carlton trying to defend Judd's conduct. The appropriate thing to do would to be apologise on behalf of your supporter base and agree that behaviour like that is unacceptable and admit you're embaressed to be an Eagles supporter after hearing it...

 

[Balony_pony16]

On the game the writing was on the wall with team selections including bewick, yeo, lestor, hardwood, Wrigley, and hawksley. All these players are either young or playing for their career...but more important are all real slow one paced players.

Lestor is particularly disappointing because I had super high expectations for him prior to his injury last season. But like Andy gotten he seems to have returned missing a yard of pace

Hawksley just shouldn't be getting a game now finals are out of the question. Play youth instead a delist him! I doubt anyone would be thinking "at least we got game time into hawks"....different story if boss started getting games into docherty, green or bartlett?

Oh and mckeever... he has a board meeting in his head before he kicks a ball. Frustrating

 

[Balony_pony16]

Mmm maybe the floggings the eagles did against us in our glory days is imbedded in my subconscious...I stand corrected

 

[John]

Play youth blah blah blah

We did and we do. I am struggling to understand what part you do not understand about this. As an example you want Lester dropped who was born on 26.08.92. In other words turns 20 next month and then keep calling for his omission. BP your posts are astonishingly reactive.

 

[Balony_pony16]

Changes vs Richmond(Lets swing the axe! Nothing to lose now the season is over for us).

In Rich Lisle Karnezis Beams Green Docherty
Out Rockliff Magurie Lester Crisp Banfield Harwood

Rockliff is out because of his hand. Needs a rest IMO. Maguire injured. Lester needs to rest for just about the remainder of this season methinks. Crisp should go back to the reserves. He has had enough of a taste to know what to work on in the pre season. Banfield must go back to the reserves and truly earn his spot in the seniors this time around. Harwood has been outstanding in the backline since moving there but his form has dropped off slightly these past couple of games and he either needs a rest or he needs a run in the reserves but I don't want him kept out of the seniors for to long! Just give him 1 or 2 weeks rest to see how Docherty goes.

Rich instantly returns and he is a good like for like inclusion for Rocky who is out injured. Maguire going out means Merrett to go back and Lisle to come in and finally get his chance that he has earned. Karnezis to come in as a like for like for Lester after some terrific form in the magoos. Green has had good form in the reserves and can have more of an impact then Banfield IMO in the seniors. Docherty to get his chance to see how he goes. Give Drummond more of a rest to insure he gets a full and solid pre season under his belt

Couldn't agree more. Voss really must get games into the future...if hawksley gets more games and is not delisted I will spew

 

[Football Pope]

On the game the writing was on the wall with team selections including bewick, yeo, lestor, hardwood, Wrigley, and hawksley. All these players are either young or playing for their career...but more important are all real slow one paced players.

Lestor is particularly disappointing because I had super high expectations for him prior to his injury last season. But like Andy gotten he seems to have returned missing a yard of pace

Hawksley just shouldn't be getting a game now finals are out of the question. Play youth instead a delist him! I doubt anyone would be thinking "at least we got game time into hawks"....different story if boss started getting games into docherty, green or bartlett?

Oh and mckeever... he has a board meeting in his head before he kicks a ball. Frustrating

Nah..I like what is being done....before delisting a player at least give them the opportunity to spark an interest from one of the teams in their home state..

 

[John]

Voss really must get games into the future..

His knees bung and he is not on the list. All jokes aside and to repeat myself what part of the selection today do you not understand. We played IIRC 8 players with less than 25 games under their belts and a finals bound eagle had none. If you are going to take the youth at all cost attitude then they may as well pension Black and Brown off right now.

 

[lukiuslion]

I agree with the group think on Brown, clearly works his ass off everyweek, draws 2 defenders and is aging, still amazing. also absolutley baffled by talk of Mckeever having 'upside' and 'playing well'.. He made at least 10 huge errors, twice badly out of position early with Darling, constant skill errors. My dad and I text "Mckeever" back and forth everytime he stuffs up and there was at least 15 sent back and forward today. He trys hard and I understand he is athletic but he is embarrassing and I am sick of having a player that is CLEARLY (decision making/ability/skill set/ timing) so far short of being competitive at this level. He leaks goals and can't kick, I don't care if he ends up being a 200 game player I'm not Willing to sit through the embarrassment of having a player in a lions jumper, so far off the mark in out team.

I used to defend banfield, I'm sick if him, his no good - drop him and put time into Greene. hawksley is a waste of time, a young player with potential could have used those minutes. crisp is becoming a whipping boy on here, his young and I
Think he has shown alot over the last month. I am so frustrated and at a lose as to Why Lisle, Bartlett, docerty and others can't get a run.

Eagle crowd booooing every single decision through out the whole game was a joke! And booooing browny at the end, it was laughable. They didn't even get a bad run.

 

[Balony_pony16]

John!!!!! I made a point on lest or and his disappointing form post a unfortunate injury much like Andy gotten of the crows...and sorry when did I call for lest or to be dropped. Don't be "astonishingly reactive" on your posts. Make sure you get ones view before going to the personal attack mate

I also get we are playing youth...we need to isolate the quality youth and reserve games for them much like the eagles did a few years back. My point is that if docherty, green and Bartlett got games, post a flogging I got find more reasons for optimism. But post a flogging with players like hawksley playing and burning game experience for our quality youth is rather disappointing.

 

[ZoBlitz]

His knees bung and he is not on the list. All jokes aside and to repeat myself what part of the selection today do you not understand. We played IIRC 8 players with less than 25 games under their belts and a finals bound eagle had none. If you are going to take the youth at all cost attitude then they may as well pension Black and Brown off right now.

Some seem to have a strange belief in the idea that "getting games into youth" is the same as "developing youth". Melbourne are a prime example of a club that focused on playing youth without having a backbone of veteran players to provide structure. You can ruin the development of young players if you play too many of them and force them to go through constant thrashings.

Playing young players doesn't make them better players. Playing young players in sides where they know their role and aren't forced to do too much is how you develop players.

 

[John]

There was no personal attack there. A comment that your posts are reactive is an observation and not an attack. After each loss you say the same thing. If you want me to reply to your comment of Docherty, Green and Bartlett here goes. Docherty is coming of no pre season due to injury. Green had one good 1/4 and then hardly had a touch the next game. If they had stayed with him I would not have been bothered either way but the truth of the matter is at this point in their respective careers Banfield is a better player and has the stats to back this. Banfeild has better stats than Flea at the same point in their careers. The small forward role is a long term development and we have to realise that. Bartlett I have seen twice in the ressies this year and he was then so far off the pace of AFL footy that it was not funny. The various watchers of the ressies say that he still is. Isolate the quality youth is all well and good so put up with Lester having (in your opinion) a bad game or 2. He is a 2nd year player. Plenty around here have been saying that Hawksley played very well in the ressies for the last few weeks and by his elevation the match committee obviously agreed. it is called reward for effort. He is also only 23 years old and for what it is worth he was hardly the worst player today.

This is not a personal attack on you b_p16. It is an observation of posting reactively. You said "On the game the writing was on the wall with team selections including bewick, yeo, lestor, hardwood, Wrigley, and hawksley" and then complain about lack of youth. If that is not a bunch of youngsters both in age and experience what is this team selection of youth that you are asking for that would have made today a closer game?

 

[kranky al]

zorko looks like hes going to be a gun - he runs round players like they are witches hats

 

[lionbear]

I always allow 6 goals for the away team in a Qld WA game, so 10 goals when you make this adjustment with the players we had out is fair, but let's aim on getting that down in 2012.

 

[Balony_pony16]

The "game writing" line was made to indicate why I was not surprised in us losing. I do see benefits in playing lestor... my comments on him is in relation to how his injury seems to have slowed him down and he has lost polish in disposal...much like Andy otten .

Disappointing was the inclusion of hawksley who I consider a last chance salon player like hardwood and bewick. Too many of these types for 1 game when the final chances are shot

On Bartlett...your comments john are interesting. A lot of people seem to be impressed with his ressie season. I am in sa
and cant comment personally other then what feedback I read.

 

[Haso]

zorko looks like hes going to be a gun - he runs round players like they are witches hats

Yup, Zorks is one that we are proud of. Although he struggled with his very first tag today (b'awww), he showed some fo the fight thatt we love him for in the rest of the match.

 

[Haso]

Playing young players doesn't make them better players. Playing young players in sides where they know their role and aren't forced to do too much is how you develop players.

Fasolo (although I dislike his demeanor) is a great example of this.

Golby is another, from our own den.