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I don’t reckon Knights will be a senior coach at AFL level ever again.
Voss not interested apparently?


North forum are saying Jarrad Schofield or Choco Williams.

So one of Kingsley, Schofield and/or Choco.

If i had to bet on it id say Adam Kingsley.
 
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Voss not interested apparently?


North forum are saying Jarrad Schofield or Choco Williams.

So one of Kingsley, Schofield and/or Choco.

If i had to bet on it id say Adam Kingsley.
I was wondering if it might be a bad move for someone like Voss to take on a job that will clearly be a tough gig.
I know Ken Hinkley took on Port at a low point for the club but they had talent.
Hinkley was older and had missed out on lots of opportunities prior and probably wasn’t going to get too many more.
I’m not sure that taking on a club at rock bottom will suit someone like Voss who wants to prove he’s learnt second time around and would expect another chance even if he passes this one up.
 
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I think an experienced AFL person is a must. I say person becuase someone like Fagan would be perfect.
Ditching the shin boner spirit may be the first step.
It’s a faux tough guy attitude imo. Irrelevant today imo
 
Who is like Fagan?

Name names.

Sounds like hindsight logic.
David Noble, though Brisbane was in a much different position list wise when Fagan came in to what the Roos are now.
 
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If the rumours about some of his assistants basically protesting on the job and leaving him to carry the can are true, I hope there is a unified agreement across the competition that they never work again at the top level.
 
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David Noble, though Brisbane was in a much different position list wise when Fagan came in to what the Roos are now.

Noble is positioning himself as a future CEO of an AFL club. Doesn't want to be a coach.
 
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Rhyce Shaw’s impact on the club has been profound.

Speak to those in and around the Suns and Shaw’s performance as Head of Development since joining in 2021 could well stamp him as the best recruit Stuart Dew has made in his time at the helm, both on and off-field.

Dew worked with Shaw during the pair’s time at Sydney Swans and, once the latter departed North Melbourne as senior coach due to personal reasons near the close of 2020, Dew pushed hard to recruit his former colleague.

“It’s just story after story of players going to him for advice on hand balling, life or whatever it is. People would then go, ‘gee, if I go elsewhere do I have Rhyce Shaw with me?’ That’s being a bit dramatic on him but you probably can’t overstate the importance of him to our footy club.”

Good on ya Shawry
 
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Who were the other options at the time?

I'm not kidding you by saying my recollection is that it was down to this two. There was more than a couple high rated assistant coaches that declined to interview.
 
I'm not kidding you by saying my recollection is that it was down to this two. There was more than a couple high rated assistant coaches that declined to interview.
Possibly Yze?

I think you may have dodged a bullet there too.
 
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Possibly Yze?

I think you may have dodged a bullet there too.

I don't think so on Yze but I could be wrong for sure. I remember people talking about Voss, Kingsley and Jaymie Graham, IIRC the latter was tempted to interview but pulled out, the first two flat out said no.
 
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