Rhys vs Heath

[deledio7]

Thought this would be an interesting poll.

Rhys had a great 09, finished runner up in the Swans BnF and showed great improvement.

Heath was solid in 09, seemed to stagnate a little but whenever I watched the Pies he was good, especially vs the Tiges.

I want to know who you would rather going into the 2010 season. I seriously can't split them so I will leave it up to you

 

[Brent24]

Heath comfortably. His 2nd half of 09 was as good as any rebounding defender in the league.

 

[Damon_3388]

I'll take Heath from here on out. He's 4 years younger than Rhyce, has been playing at the same good level since 2006, and at 24 years old is just entering his prime as a footballer in 2010.

 

[jonoman89]

Heath. Just.

Better kick and a bit younger.

 

[hellfire]

Rhyce is so good than nobody knows how to spell his name.

Heath... Daylight. That's all.

Heath cuts teams up, and warrants a forward tag, the opposition want the ball in Rhyce's hands. Great run and carry, nothing else. Heath rarely gets beaten 1 on 1, provides the same run and carry, is a better user of the ball and is FAR more courageous. There is a reason we gave him up for so little, whereas Heath would be one of our untouchables.

 

[Donakebab]

One of the better polls considering not only do they share a bloodline, they both show similar styles of play, even though they play different rolls. Overall Heath has more upsides; positional flexibility, skill level, age and potential. Heath would be a walk in for almost every sides 22, where as Rhyce wouldn't.

This may sound weird, but I think Heath Shaw is both very under rated by most opposition supporters, while at the same time he is also over rated by some Collingwood supporters.

 

[Soul_Pie]

One of the better polls considering not only do they share a bloodline, they both show similar styles of play, even though they play different rolls. Overall Heath has more upsides; positional flexibility, skill level, age and potential. Heath would be a walk in for almost every sides 22, where as Rhyce wouldn't.

This may sound weird, but I think Heath Shaw is both very under rated by most opposition supporters, while at the same time he is also over rated by some Collingwood supporters.

Probably a fair assessment, although I think Rhyce Shaw would be a walk in for most team's 22 after the season he's just had, which was probably his best so far, he did come very high up in the Swans' best and fairest after all. You're certainly right in saying they have similar traits in the way that they play.

Obviously I'm biased and think Heath is the better player, albeit not by a large margin, as I think Rhyce was unfairly maligned for a lot of his career and was often made the scapegoat at Collingwood. I think what really made him an easy target was that when he made a mistake they tended to be disastrous, almost bordering on comical at times, but I always liked him as a player. Strangely enough, Heath is also prone to doing the odd crazy thing as well, but tends to cop less flak for it. Anyway, what's made Rhyce a better player this year is that he's improved his defensive side, and I think his efficiency and decision making has gotten better as well. The change of environment has really done him good.

 

[tubbis]

Rhyce. Is it really that hard to spell their names correctly?

 

[The Panther]

1. Corey Enright.
2. Goddard.
3. Heath Shaw.
4. Drummond.
5. Rhyce Shaw.

Both brothers are within the best 5 in their position.

 

[Virgil]

I believe that Heath is the better player overall, but Rhyce had a better year than Heath in 2009.

1. Corey Enright.
2. Goddard.
3. Heath Shaw.
4. Drummond.
5. Rhyce Shaw.

Both brothers are within the best 5 in their position.

Ryan Hargrave should make that list ahead of Rhyce IMO.

 

[The Panther]

Ryan Hargrave should make that list ahead of Rhyce IMO.

Rhyce had a superior year to Hargrave, who feeds (like the majority of WB defenders) off the play of Brian Harris. He's also had a better career.

 

[deledio7]

Rhyce. Is it really that hard to spell their names correctly?

Sorry mate. I have a couple of mates named Rhys who spell it that way. Don't really see why it's that big of a drama?

 

[Hard Ball Get]

Heath easily.

 

[Rioli magic]

1. Corey Enright.
2. Goddard.
3. Heath Shaw.
4. Drummond.
5. Rhyce Shaw.

Both brothers are within the best 5 in their position.

Gilbee? Goodwin? Mackie? Hodge? Fisher? Hargrave? Mcleod? Maxwell? Johncock? I think all of them would be above Rhyce and most above Heath aswell. As for the poll - Heath.

 

[hellfire]

Gilbee? Goodwin? Mackie? Hodge? Fisher? Hargrave? Mcleod? Maxwell? Johncock? I think all of them would be above Rhyce and most above Heath aswell. As for the poll - Heath.

Fisher is a CHB.

I wouldn't put any of those players ahead of Heath. Hodge at his best, yes. McLeod years ago, yes. Mackie is very good, but Heath's best is better. Gilbee is a beautiful user of the ball, but can go missing quite a bit.

 

[Rioli magic]

Fisher is a CHB.

I wouldn't put any of those players ahead of Heath. Hodge at his best, yes. McLeod years ago, yes. Mackie is very good, but Heath's best is better. Gilbee is a beautiful user of the ball, but can go missing quite a bit.

Fisher is not a CHB and is a better player than Heath as is Hodge and Goodwin. Gilbee is debatable and the rest is fair enough, although Gilbert is worth a mention if he can back it up. As I said they'd all be ahead of Rhyce as most ahead of Heath. I should have said some but either way the point was that Heath and Rhyce aren't both in the top 5 for their positions in the league.

 

[Virgil]

Fisher is not a CHB and is a better player than Heath as is Hodge and Goodwin. Gilbee is debatable and the rest is fair enough, although Gilbert is worth a mention if he can back it up. As I said they'd all be ahead of Rhyce as most ahead of Heath. I should have said some but either way the point was that Heath and Rhyce aren't both in the top 5 for their positions in the league.

Fisher does play CHB. Hodge is very good in defence, and should rightly be ahead of Heath, but he doesn't play that role on a full-time basis. Same with Goodwin. Gilbee tends to suffer against taggers more than Heath does, and I think Heath is much better defensively.

 

[hellfire]

Fisher is not a CHB and is a better player than Heath as is Hodge and Goodwin. Gilbee is debatable and the rest is fair enough, although Gilbert is worth a mention if he can back it up. As I said they'd all be ahead of Rhyce as most ahead of Heath. I should have said some but either way the point was that Heath and Rhyce aren't both in the top 5 for their positions in the league.

Like I said, Hodge at his best is better than Shaw, but had a pretty shit 2009. Fisher IS a CHB. Gilbee is not debatable in my opinion. Heath is comfortably in the top 5 HBFs in the league, no doubt about it.

 

[The Panther]

Gilbee? Goodwin? Mackie? Hodge? Fisher? Hargrave? Mcleod? Maxwell? Johncock? I think all of them would be above Rhyce and most above Heath aswell. As for the poll - Heath.

LOL, you've named McLeod, Johncock & Goodwin. How many HBF's are there on a team sheet.

Fisher & Mackie are 3rd talls within their defensive unit, not HBF's.

 

[Rioli magic]

I admire the backing of your own players by you Collingwood folk but your both completely missing my point. My point was both Shaw's aren't in the top 5 at their position, and I was questioning Rhyce being in that 5 not so much Heath. Here we have one saying Fisher's a CHB the other saying he's a 3rd tall etc? Me naming the 3 crows well surely 1 of them (Goodwin, McLeod, Johncock) plays HBF and is better than Rhyce? Who's your other HBF? Harry O? Would you have him or Rhyce? I'd have Hurn over Rhyce Shaw too or is he strictly back pocket?

 

[hellfire]

I admire the backing of your own players by you Collingwood folk but your both completely missing my point. My point was both Shaw's aren't in the top 5 at their position, and I was questioning Rhyce being in that 5 not so much Heath. Here we have one saying Fisher's a CHB the other saying he's a 3rd tall etc? Me naming the 3 crows well surely 1 of them (Goodwin, McLeod, Johncock) plays HBF and is better than Rhyce? Who's your other HBF? Harry O? Would you have him or Rhyce? I'd have Hurn over Rhyce Shaw too or is he strictly back pocket?

Mate, there are stacks ahead of Rhyce. Not Heath.

We don't really have another HBF. One of Maxwell, O'Brien or Goldsack usually plays that rebounding role, but we have only one genuine HBFer. And it just so happens that he is elite in his role.

 

[collingwill]

heath easily, stupid poll, also heath is in the top 5 maybe even top 3 HBs in the comp, not every HB gets tagged like he does, he"s the most attacking HB in the league and breaks lines more than most.

as for hodge, keep him, whats he had ? 1 or 2 good yrs ? i wouldnt be swapping.

 

[AG]

Rhyce had the better year but Heath will retire the better player.

 

[Hard Ball Get]

This thread makes me laugh.
I have heard of the one eyed Collingwood suporter but Hellfire you take it to a new level!

 

[hellfire]

This thread makes me laugh.
I have heard of the one eyed Collingwood suporter but Hellfire you take it to a new level!

Turn it up.

Feel free to actually refute something, rather than making a baseless accusation. Let me guess, you think that the "Heath > Gilbee" comment was incorrect?

Feel free to tell me which half-back flankers you would have ahead of Heath Shaw, I'll get ready to laugh... there might even be a mention of Harbrow.