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Richards or Bryan?????

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I believe that these two players are the worst second ruckmans in the league and i gotta feel for Fraser every week. But who would u choose? Richards is far better in the rucking duals where as Bryan is good around the ground with his raking kicks and goal kicking? A bit of dilemma at the selection table every week but my choice would be Richards...Your thoughts?
 
bryan for mine, dont forget the guy has only played 20 odd games. i think people are forgetting how little time he has had in the afl
 
italia_champions69 said:
I believe that these two players are the worst second ruckmans in the league and i gotta feel for Fraser every week. But who would u choose? Richards is far better in the rucking duals where as Bryan is good around the ground with his raking kicks and goal kicking? A bit of dilemma at the selection table every week but my choice would be Richards...Your thoughts?
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Mike needs to bloody leave Bryan in for a few weeks so he gets a proper go!!!! Richards has been in the system since 2000!!!!! He is useless wont get any better than what he is now. Get rid of him, Bryan is much better.
 

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Richards is by far the superior player. At least he competes in the ruck. Bryan offers nothing in the ruck and nothing around the ground.
 
FadeAway said:
Mike needs to bloody leave Bryan in for a few weeks so he gets a proper go!!!! Richards has been in the system since 2000!!!!! He is useless wont get any better than what he is now. Get rid of him, Bryan is much better.
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Our coaches name is Mick if u haven't realized.
 
I'd say Richards.

He's impressed me this year, mostly because I'd set my hopes so low. He is offering a decent contest in the ruck and some of his tapwork has been good. He's even improved around the ground a little bit, giving off a few good, creative handballs.

Besides the Adelaide game I haven't been that excited by Bryan. He hasn't given us a lot around the ground and is beaten regularly in the ruck. He is a long kick but that doesn't always make him a good kick. Doesn't use it well enough IMO.
 
Richards is a DUD, end of story, i dont care if you are his dad/friend/mum/sister or if you are richards, HE IS A DUD

Bryan easily
 

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Yep, Richards for me anyday of the week. He's improved this year, he now understands the importance of making a contribution to the side, last year he was shocking so he had to improve (slowly but surely).
 
Hadders said:
Instead of calling him a dud why don't either you actually give some reasons and contribute something worthwhile to the thread instead of boosting your post counts with stupid posts?:mad:
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Bryan can kick massive bombs, richards cant
Bryan can actually get a useful disposal, richards cant, scares me when ever he kicks the ball, also he has bad reaction time
Bryan has a physical presence, richards doesn't
Bryan can out muscle other ruck men, stick man cant
Bryan can play forward and kick goals, richards cant

need more :rolleyes:

now come up with some things that suggest richards is better than bryan
 
From what ive seen ive actually noticed Bryan and not Richards relly. Bryan has kicked a few goals and can play different positions. We probably should draft a new ruck or trade one in or something. Not sure how old fraser is but looks like hes old, losing the hair and everything lol. Travis Cloke used to ruck a little for collingwood didnt he? How good was he :S?
 
WakeUpTaz said:
Bryan can kick massive bombs, richards cant
Bryan can actually get a useful disposal, richards cant, scares me when ever he kicks the ball, also he has bad reaction time
Bryan has a physical presence, richards doesn't
Bryan can out muscle other ruck men, stick man cant
Bryan can play forward and kick goals, richards cant

need more :rolleyes:

now come up with some things that suggest richards is better than bryan
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Richards is technically a better ruckman. His tapwork is far superior and his taps go to advantage more often.

While he doesn't have the physical presence, Richards through his height offers a better contest at stoppages.

Richards disposal by hand has improved enormously and he now is often quite creative by hand. Bryan is a massive kick but doesn't always use the ball well, just booting the ball long isn't always the best option.

IMO both are fairly close to each other but in recent games Richards has had an impact on matches where Bryan's impact has been minimal.
 
first of all they are both duds and please keep Cloke to CHF

i just hope collingwood trade for/draft a ruckman before frazer dies of old age
 

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Richards compted well against the duo Josh (rather craftily) declared 'the best in the league' last week. Have seen both contribute to wins this year, still horses for courses,although Richards has pulled ahead slightly because of his ability to at least compete against genuine rucks like Jolly et al. I may harp on it, but against a real ruckman (Sweet) Bryan was towelled at Docklands. This combo is worth another year at least, only about 50 games between them.
 
From my calculations Fraser is 25, meaning hes got a few more years left to get a noob to be good. Richards and Bryan are duds and getting to old aswell, we need a new draft thats a ruck or a younf ruck so they can learn quicker and be ready for when Fraser retires.

Bryan is also 25 and Richards is 24 :S Theres no point trying to teach them to ruck, theyll retire before Fraser does.
 

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