Club Focus Richmond 2024

[Ticky009]

Data from footywire. To check the draft order see the thread here.

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[perplexed]

Exactly, the way I see it the difference between pick 2 and 6 this year is simply preference of player, not actually quality.

So to pay pick 11 in this draft for the privilege to choose the same quality of player is way overs. 6 & 23 into 6 & 18 feels reasonable in this draft. The emphasis being on in this draft.

We hear this a lot. But if it is the case, could Richmond also be looking to split pick 1? Say with Melbourne 1,20,23 > 5,9, or similar with St Kilda. With the picks they have, they have a heap of options, but at the moment none of us have any idea what their thinking is.

 

[tiger_tough]

We hear this a lot. But if it is the case, could Richmond also be looking to split pick 1? Say with Melbourne 1,20,23 > 5,9, or similar with St Kilda. With the picks they have, they have a heap of options, but at the moment none of us have any idea what their thinking is.

We'd probably have considered it if we didn't already have 7 other 1st rounders.

 

[THE_GUN]

We hear this a lot. But if it is the case, could Richmond also be looking to split pick 1? Say with Melbourne 1,20,23 > 5,9, or similar with St Kilda. With the picks they have, they have a heap of options, but at the moment none of us have any idea what their thinking is.

No point really as under both Scenario you only get 1 in the top 6 players
Pick #9 falls into the next tier where we already have #10 + #11 and i dont think Melbourne would look at later picks for #9

 

[Davo-27]

i came accross this video on youtube and the guy doing it has put in a tonne of work on data and is an interesting watch

 

[A Bit Dusty]

So now that the dust has settled it's time to see if the Tigers has actually won during the trade period.

This is only for players traded and picks received.

Daniel Rioli

17

Daniel Rioli

Age

29

Ht

179cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.2

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.7

3star

T

3.2

5star

MG

179.2

3star

D

8.1

2star

K

4.9

2star

HB

3.3

2star

M

2.0

2star

T

2.6

4star

MG

144.9

3star

D

9.0

3star

K

3.8

2star

HB

5.2

4star

M

0.8

1star

T

3.8

5star

MG

160.2

3star

traded for Picks 6&23 = Josh Smillie (6) & Harry Armstrong (23) Big Win

Shai Bolton

10

Shai Bolton

Age

27

Ht

176cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

12.7

3star

K

9.2

4star

HB

3.5

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.8

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

traded for Picks 10 & 11 = Taj Hotton (10) & Jonty Faull (11) Undecided yet

Liam Baker

3

Liam Baker

Age

28

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.7

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

CL

0.5

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

CL

1.2

4star

traded for Pick 14 = Luke Trainor Big Win

Jack Graham

17

Jack Graham

Age

28

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

1.2

4star

D

14.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

7.0

5star

CL

3.2

5star

traded for Pick 42 = Jasper Alger Big Win

 

[richoatthedisco]

So now that the dust has settled it's time to see if the Tigers has actually won during the trade period.

This is only for players traded and picks received.

Daniel Rioli traded for Picks 6&23 = Josh Smillie (6) & Harry Armstrong (23) Big Win

Shai Bolton traded for Picks 10 & 11 = Taj Hotton (10) & Jonty Faull (11) Undecided yet

Liam Baker traded for Pick 14 = Luke Trainor Big Win

Jack Graham traded for Pick 42 = Jasper Alger Big Win

Not quite right. It was effectively:
Rioli + F2 for Smillie + North's F1
Baker, Bolton + F3 for Hotton, Faull and Trainor
Graham + junk picks to Brisbane for Armstrong
F4 for Alger

 

[Jeremias]

So now that the dust has settled it's time to see if the Tigers has actually won during the trade period.

This is only for players traded and picks received.

Daniel Rioli traded for Picks 6&23 = Josh Smillie (6) & Harry Armstrong (23) Big Win

Shai Bolton traded for Picks 10 & 11 = Taj Hotton (10) & Jonty Faull (11) Undecided yet

Liam Baker traded for Pick 14 = Luke Trainor Big Win

Jack Graham traded for Pick 42 = Jasper Alger Big Win

Or...for a slightly less biased view...

Daniel Rioli traded for Picks 6&23 = Josh Smillie (6) & Harry Armstrong (23) - TBC

Shai Bolton traded for Picks 10 & 11 = Taj Hotton (10) & Jonty Faull (11) - TBC

Liam Baker traded for Pick 14 = Luke Trainor - TBC

Jack Graham traded for Pick 42 = Jasper Alger - TBC

Getting young talent in through the door is great, but there is a not so distant universe in which each of the four end up a loss for Richmond.

 

[Morro]

Or...for a slightly less biased view...

Daniel Rioli traded for Picks 6&23 = Josh Smillie (6) & Harry Armstrong (23) - TBC

Shai Bolton traded for Picks 10 & 11 = Taj Hotton (10) & Jonty Faull (11) - TBC

Liam Baker traded for Pick 14 = Luke Trainor - TBC

Jack Graham traded for Pick 42 = Jasper Alger - TBC

Getting young talent in through the door is great, but there is a not so distant universe in which each of the four end up a loss for Richmond.

Reckon you'd love nothing more, but even with your level of bias, that is a stretch.

 

[Jeremias]

Reckon you'd love nothing more, but even with your level of bias, that is a stretch.

Au contraire, I’d be very happy to see it result in an all time draft class.

As a DTFA lover, I’m all for clubs making bold moves and it’d be exciting to see such a ballsy move pay off.

Long way to go before we get there though - let’s wait and see how the kids go.

 

[Rich01]

Or...for a slightly less biased view...

Daniel Rioli traded for Picks 6&23 = Josh Smillie (6) & Harry Armstrong (23) - TBC

Shai Bolton traded for Picks 10 & 11 = Taj Hotton (10) & Jonty Faull (11) - TBC

Liam Baker traded for Pick 14 = Luke Trainor - TBC

Jack Graham traded for Pick 42 = Jasper Alger - TBC

Getting young talent in through the door is great, but there is a not so distant universe in which each of the four end up a loss for Richmond.

So true.

Liken this draft to the 2015 draft for Carlton. It’s essentially ground zero with a small smattering of players.
So to see results and get back to true contention realistically Richmond are several years away at best.

We also need to trade in well to get a good mix to support this bunch of talent.

We definitely can’t afford to burn as many top draft picks as the blues did in that 2015-2018 period though. Bolstering the recruitment dept will be a priority for Hartley now.

Time will tell how these lads end up.
As a supporter I’m optimistic early.

 

[juss]

Or...for a slightly less biased view...

Daniel Rioli traded for Picks 6&23 = Josh Smillie (6) & Harry Armstrong (23) - TBC

Shai Bolton traded for Picks 10 & 11 = Taj Hotton (10) & Jonty Faull (11) - TBC

Liam Baker traded for Pick 14 = Luke Trainor - TBC

Jack Graham traded for Pick 42 = Jasper Alger - TBC

Getting young talent in through the door is great, but there is a not so distant universe in which each of the four end up a loss for Richmond.

That's any trade though for any club isn't it?

They're all TBCs until years later unless it's an immediate obvious effect, more often with mature players that have instant impact.

Also, I still believe trades can be win/win. Shai Bolton might go on to multiple AAs and help win Freo a flag, and Hotton and Faull might become key cogs for 15 years at Richmond and may be part of our next flag. Win/win.

 

[Jeremias]

So true.

Liken this draft to the 2015 draft for Carlton. It’s essentially ground zero with a small smattering of players.
So to see results and get back to true contention realistically Richmond are several years away at best.

We also need to trade in well to get a good mix to support this bunch of talent.

We definitely can’t afford to burn as many top draft picks as the blues did in that 2015-2018 period though. Bolstering the recruitment dept will be a priority for Hartley now.

Time will tell how these lads end up.
As a supporter I’m optimistic early.

Yes, the 2015 Carlton draft was an unbelievably good haul.

If Richmond do similarly out of the 2024 crop, it is a huge win.

That's any trade though for any club isn't it?

They're all TBCs until years later unless it's an immediate obvious effect, more often with mature players that have instant impact.

Also, I still believe trades can be win/win. Shai Bolton might go on to multiple AAs and help win Freo a flag, and Hotton and Faull might become key cogs for 15 years at Richmond and may be part of our next flag. Win/win.

Of course. I wasn't being critical of Richmond at all - they did the right thing.

At the moment you can't really say any of the trades are a 'win' for Richmond if basing it off the players selected, because none of them have done anything.

We need to see them at AFL level first. Maybe all will hit and be superstars, maybe only some will, or maybe none will, Only time will tell.

 

[Rich01]

Yes, the 2015 Carlton draft was an unbelievably good haul.

If Richmond do similarly out of the 2024 crop, it is a huge win.

Yup. Weitering, Curnow and Mackay set them up for their tilt. They went the Hawthorn route building the spine early and they ended up picking the right players to do so.

We have gone the same path. I like the strategy. Hopefully we’ve picked the right players.

 

[Coach_Required]

Supporters are very happy, most of the media think we did very well. We took a couple of risks, but with the number of picks we had its worth it. If we end up getting even half of these picks right we have nailed it.

 

[Rich01]

6, 11 and 18 is the deal. Allows the tigers to get Lalor and the piss off Carlton to get osullivan.
North then get smith, Tauru and shanahan.
Works for both clubs

Geez I’m glad you aren’t our list manager.

 

[Del28562]

Geez I’m glad you aren’t our list manager.

Well I think the jury is out on 5 of your picks. Hotton, smillie and Lalor should be guns though.

 

[Rich01]

Well I think the jury is out on 5 of your picks. Hotton, smillie and Lalor should be guns though.

Yep, if we had have gone with your deal we would have got FOS for Smillie, Faull and Trainor.

Would have been livid if we did that.
But then again, your post shows everyone’s a draft expert on Bigfooty.

 

[Del28562]

Yep, if we had have gone with your deal we would have got FOS for Smillie, Faull and Trainor.

Would have been livid if we did that.
But then again, your post shows everyone’s a draft expert on Bigfooty.

Osullivan would have worked better with Lalor

 

[Rich01]

Osullivan would have worked better with Lalor

Time will tell Mr Twomey

 

[THE_GUN]

Osullivan would have worked better with Lalor

With what Smillie has shown at training in just 2 weeks he is already being talked about as a future captain of the club
well respected training watchers that have good connections with the club and players mentioned he is talked about extremely highly for his leadership and professionalism already

I think internally Smillie as our 2nd choice was always on the cards and the main reason the club was not interested in trading up for the eagles #3 or North's #2

The only selection that i would have been different is the Faull selection which i think Berry would have been the perfect selection with what we got later in Trainor , Sims & Armstrong but Alger was a bonus at #53 (effectively our F4)

 

[blaisee]

With what Smillie has shown at training in just 2 weeks he is already being talked about as a future captain of the club
well respected training watchers that have good connections with the club and players mentioned he is talked about extremely highly for his leadership and professionalism already

I think internally Smillie as our 2nd choice was always on the cards and the main reason the club was not interested in trading up for the eagles #3 or North's #2

The only selection that i would have been different is the Faull selection which i think Berry would have been the perfect selection with what we got later in Trainor , Sims & Armstrong but Alger was a bonus at #53 (effectively our F4)

Smillie is more FOS, than FOS

 

[Demon in Hell]

After 2 weeks Smilie is Captain material..............FMD.

 

[Makeshift Park]

With what Smillie has shown at training in just 2 weeks he is already being talked about as a future captain of the club

Cripes. Things must be worse at Punt Rd than we realised.

 

[tiger_tough]

With what Smillie has shown at training in just 2 weeks he is already being talked about as a future captain of the club
well respected training watchers that have good connections with the club and players mentioned he is talked about extremely highly for his leadership and professionalism already

I think internally Smillie as our 2nd choice was always on the cards and the main reason the club was not interested in trading up for the eagles #3 or North's #2

The only selection that i would have been different is the Faull selection which i think Berry would have been the perfect selection with what we got later in Trainor , Sims & Armstrong but Alger was a bonus at #53 (effectively our F4)

 

[THE_GUN]

Cripes. Things must be worse at Punt Rd than we realised.

Any team that finishes bottom 4 then things are bad

if you finish bottom 4 for 3+ years then its even worse

so yes things are pretty bad