Richmond and Geelong Are Shocking.....

[twenty_ somet]

The AFL should kick richmond and geelong out of the afl. What good are they? They don't have many supporters and the only fans they do have are pathetic losers. When they played each other it was sooooo boring. Wayne Jackson should boot em out.

GO EAGLES!!!!!!

 

[Richmondfan#1]

You are the one that is shocking. Why exactly should those teams be kicked out. Why not the eagles? I think I know why. You are probably scared that Geelong and Richmond might beat the eagles. How low can you go?

 

[mrs_ doubtfire]

here here Richmondfan#1.

I agrre with your comments. twenty_somet should get a life. (And a new name. What kind of a name is twenty_somet?)

You are probably thinking the same thing about my name. Well my name is true. I'm a man and a woman. Brisbane forever!

 

[Catters2000]

Only a dumb Eagles supporter would make a smug statement like that. How many wins in the last 7 games huh?

 

[Daniel]

Despite the asinine post, the topic name is correct. For finals teams, Richmond and Geelong *are* shocking. Needless to say, I am bitter and disappointed at Adelaide losing to such a poor team.

If Geelong finish fourth, as appears likely now, they will go crashing out of the finals in straight sets. It's enormously frustrating to see such mediocrity in the top eight when the Crows are struggling to make it. But they can only blame themselves (and the umpiries, naturally).

Playing decent football for only 1 and a half quarters isn't enough to beat quality teams, even if it was arguably enough to deserve victory against Geelong, if it wasn't for the you-know-what factor.

Sigh...

 

[sainter]

Daniel, I think you are a little harsh.

While it is quite clear that Richmond might not be up to it, they have fantastic this year. I think it was inevitable that injuries would eventually catch up to them. However, the way the spirit showed this year deserves to be recognised. But as finals contenders, you are right that they just are not up to it.

I would love to be wrong though.

As for Geelong, I incurred the wrath of gocatsgo a few months ago for suggesting the same thing about Geelong. I have to admit that I thought that they weren't that bad and had a good fighting victory yesterday but the crows clearly kicked themselves out of it and the martians were at it again.

The way this year is turning out, it appears that apart from the top three teams, no club want to cement a finals birth and that 10 - 10.5 wins may be enough to make it.

And like I said at the same time when I didn't rate Geelong too highly, Carlton are looming ominiously. And no-one can rule out the kangaroos. They have yet to hit top gear but a sitting nicely firmly entrenched in third position.

 

[dons_r_tops]

What drunk said richmond dont have many fans or geelong for that matter, oh thats right an eagles fan who is crowing cause after the last four weeks of being the worst team in the comp the finally dragged themselves up for a win over WHO? 16th Placed Saint Kilda
BIG DEAL

 

[gocatsgo]

There are 3 clubs in the competition who's supporters deserve credit. StKilda, Geelong and Richmond.

With all the crap these clubs supporters have had to put up with throughout the years, you'd think they would have had enough. WRONG.

It's the teams like these that are the one's who keep the competition going strong and anyone who says these teams don't have any supporters obviously has never attended a game involving one of these clubs.

The clubs that struggle year in year out are the gutsy teams not like the Eagles, Carlton, Essendon and Collingwood who rely on their presidents bank accounts.

Geelong and Richmond have both got more than 25,000 members. Only a Wesr Coast w***er would want to see these clubs ousted from the competition.

Just think, in two years when all of Richmonds players are fit and all of Geelong's kids have matured a little more, these two teams may be the one's who are dominating the competition.

One think is for certain, these 2 teams will play in a lot of finals in the next 10 years.

 

[gocatsgo]

Daniel. Did you actually see the game yesterday or did you just read the stats?

Why not give Geelong a little credit, huh?

If Adelaide were such a good side, then they wouldn't have got 37 points down in the first place. It's not our fault they can't kick straight. God knows, we've had that disease the last few weeks.

Sainter, I know for a fact that you didn't see the game unless you saw it on TV. There were absolutely no decisions by the martians that cost Adelaide yesterday. END OF STORY.

And for those of you who are criticising Geelong being top 4 or 5, name one other team who deserves to be in their place. Essendon, Carlton, North and Melbourne are already there. No-one else even deserves to make the 8 but some are going to.

Richmond have been struck by injuries.
Bulldogs couldn't beat the Power, or Geelong. At least Geelong got a draw against Port.
Brisbane can't beat Hawthorn, at home in the heat.
Adelaide have lost to Geelong twice, and they are supposed to be good.
Hawthorn have a difficult draw, but at least they try.

I gave Geelong the greatest spray in history last week, and they deserved it.

They've lost games that they shouldn't have, but they have also won games that they weren't expected to.

But for all of you who say they are useless, have a look at who they have beaten and where they have beaten them.

Adelaide - Twice
Fremanlte - Twice
Sydney in Sydney
Melbourne
Ran Carlton to 10 points at Optus and ran North to 5 points at Colonial.

Has anyone below Geelong got better season form?

 

[dons_r_tops]

Gocatsgo,
Are You sure your not G4E,
Cause Essendons president is worth less money than the club turns over at a single match at colonial, As for the Eagles they are owned By the WAFC as and such Don't Have A president also the Revenues from the Eagles and Dockers Are what Keeps Westar Rules Running in WA. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!

P.S. I cant believe i just supported the eagles or dockers in any argument.

 

[Richmondfan#1]

dons_r_tops,

I can't believe you stood up for those clubs either! I think you need to have a good nights rest!

TIGERS FOREVER,
EAGLES NEVER!!!!

 

[Pessimistic]

Gocatsgo

I'm one-eyed Hawks but my appraisal is all the teams from North down to Adelaide in tenth (that sounds good) haven't been either great or poor this year. With four games to go (where did the season go) there's chance for any of them to hit form. If not they could be all equal and the new finals system might mean that any could be in the prelims with carlton and essendon.

PS - I put a note in the 'All Victorian finals' thread rating the 'inequality' of the draw

PS Essendon and Carlton hve escaped the dreaded injuries so far this year. Carlton secons are going great but I saw Bombers v springvale and they were a bit ordinary. Perhaps the Blues depth is greater...

 

[Daniel]

Sainter,

As usual, you are probably right. I was being a little harsh, but you must understand I am still bitter about losing to Geelong. After all, even St. Kilda beat them!

I do give Richmond credit for the spirit they have shown this year. However, I have always felt that it was a matter of time before they collapsed. Without injuries they could have been better, but perhaps the consistent loss of good players has paradoxically improved their team spirit...I don't know. The fact is, they aren't that good.

gocatsgo,

Isn't anyone except you and Sam Newman allowed to criticise Geelong? Of course I saw the game. You're right, if Adelaide were better they would not have been so far down. We were terrible for most of the game, Geelong were competitive but did nothing special, and then as soon as Adelaide began to play like a respectable football team they immediately looked like winning the game.

In my opinion, Adelaide still should have won that game. Although not deserving to on the strength of their first half performance, the Crows would have got up in the end were it not for bad decisions by players and umpires alike.

To claim that there were no decisions which cost Adelaide the game is ridiculous. I'll highlight only the most obvious one: the throw in Adelaide's forward line with the Crows less than a goal down. But it makes no difference now.

You are missing the point in relation to the criticism of Geelong. Just because the teams below them are also mediocre doesn't change the fact that for a top four side, Geelong are very ordinary. They are there because of good form earlier in the season, which is perfectly legitimate, but doesn't the fact that they are likely to be thrashed in the finals.

 

[gocatsgo]

Daniel, Geelong aren't likely to get thrashed in the finals on current form.

They beat Melbourne and ran both Carlton and North to less than 2 goals.

If the top 4 were StKilda, Richmond, Hawthorn and Brisbane. You're right, they would get thrashed.

As Sam Newman said, their great against the good teams, it's just the average teams they can't beat.

 

[Daniel]

We shall see. If Geelong finish fourth they play Essendon, right? On Geelong's current form I can't see that being a close game.

Then they might encounter a team like Brisbane, which could easily be another thrashing. Still, it's quite a way off and all hypothetical at the moment, but Geelong's finals future does not shine brightly in my opinion.

 

[Tommy 2 Heads]

Originally posted by Richmondfan#1
You are the one that is shocking. Why exactly should those teams be kicked out. Why not the eagles? I think I know why. You are probably scared that Geelong and Richmond might beat the eagles. How low can you go?

Plus Richo is a Tassie boy.