Richmond Player Contract Statuses

["The Roar Is Back"]

Potentially have 4 players over 600k , it's bound to force cap pressure .

 

[The Dice Man]

How have Geelong managed it? Study them.

 

[THE_GUN]

Potentially have 4 players over 600k , it's bound to force cap pressure .

I would say just about all teams would have similar amounts of players at that level
Carlton - Judd,Murphy,Gibbs,Yarran
Hawks - Buddy,Roughy,Mitchell,Rioli
Pies - Swan,Cloke,Pendles,Thomas/Sidebottom/Beams
west coast - Selwood,Shuey,NicNat,Kennedy
Crows - Danger,Walker,Sloan,Thomson
Melb - Clark,Dawes,Trengove,Watts ( his contract would of been big but on todays form way too much)

 

[THE_GUN]

How have Geelong managed it? Study them.

80% of the property in Lorne are in the names of current geelong players wifes,parents names

 

[tigerfan1961]

How have Geelong managed it? Study them.

The same way we will Mate- players will want to stick together as a Group, seeking the ultimate reward. Cotchy and Martin are very close from what I am told and no way either will leave. Jack is VERY loyal and IMO, no way he will leave either.

Only leaves Reecey , Grimes and Rancey. All seem very happy within the team/Club and I do not see any circumstances where they will leave. Cats were the same, GA only leaving due to a relationship issue with Thompson? Do not see any such issue with Dimma, and expect us to keep whoever we want, as long as we are reasonable with terms!

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

How have Geelong managed it? Study them.

I would say just about all teams would have similar amounts of players at that level
Carlton - Judd,Murphy,Gibbs,Yarran
Hawks - Buddy,Roughy,Mitchell,Rioli
Pies - Swan,Cloke,Pendles,Thomas/Sidebottom/Beams
west coast - Selwood,Shuey,NicNat,Kennedy
Crows - Danger,Walker,Sloan,Thomson
Melb - Clark,Dawes,Trengove,Watts ( his contract would of been big but on todays form way too much)

The same way we will Mate- players will want to stick together as a Group, seeking the ultimate reward. Cotchy and Martin are very close from what I am told and no way either will leave. Jack is VERY loyal and IMO, no way he will leave either.

Only leaves Reecey , Grimes and Rancey. All seem very happy within the team/Club and I do not see any circumstances where they will leave. Cats were the same, GA only leaving due to a relationship issue with Thompson? Do not see any such issue with Dimma, and expect us to keep whoever we want, as long as we are reasonable with terms!

The issue isn't whether we will loose one of our top 4 I am also fairly confident they'll all resign . It will however place greater pressure on other areas of our list and let's not forget we need to improve our list not just stagnate .
It wouldn't surprise me if our top 4 will be on more money collectively than any other clubs top 4 . Potentially our least reliable of those 4 has reportable signed for 600k for 5 years . Admittedly when he was vying for the title of our best player , however it was negligent at that time not to think he would be overtaking by Cotchin , Martin and Jack by the time they where due to resign new contracts , being this year .
I think it's more than reasonable to assume all 3 will be more important over the next 5 years and therefore will demand more cash and with 600k being the base the 3 of them could demand 2 -2.3 mill a season between them , which would see close to 3 mill between 4 players . Which would obviously than allow 6mil over the remaining 40 or a average of $150k ??

 

[tigerfan1961]

The issue isn't whether we will loose one of our top 4 I am also fairly confident they'll all resign . It will however place greater pressure on other areas of our list and let's not forget we need to improve our list not just stagnate .
It wouldn't surprise me if our top 4 will be on more money collectively than any other clubs top 4 . Potentially our least reliable of those 4 has reportable signed for 600k for 5 years . Admittedly when he was vying for the title of our best player , however it was negligent at that time not to think he would be overtaking by Cotchin , Martin and Jack by the time they where due to resign new contracts , being this year .
I think it's more than reasonable to assume all 3 will be more important over the next 5 years and therefore will demand more cash and with 600k being the base the 3 of them could demand 2 -2.3 mill a season between them , which would see close to 3 mill between 4 players .

I see where you are coming from but I do not think the three you mentioned will hold the Club to ransom. Lids on $600k+ per season? I would be really surprised.
As I said, I think the playing group is a pretty tight bunch and will even take lower than they could get on the open market to stick together. Cotch has indicated that (about himself admittedly) in an interview he had recently. I am very confident we will retain all players we deem as required

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

I see where you are coming from but I do not think the three you mentioned will hold the Club to ransom. Lids on $600k+ per season? I would be really surprised.
As I said, I think the playing group is a pretty tight bunch and will even take lower than they could get on the open market to stick together. Cotch has indicated that (about himself admittedly) in an interview he had recently. I am very confident we will retain all players we deem as required

It's not about the players holding the club to ransom , they will take lesser than they would could get elsewhere , however they are entitled to their standing within the club , the figures I put up IMO are still very valid based on Lids' apparent contract. Sorry but with his inconsistency lids is not anything like a $500k player far less $600k . If he is on $600k IMO he is on at least $150k more than he is worth . i cant see how those better than him can be offered less in essence robbing the cap of $600 k a year minimum .
We will also most likely as you say retain relevant players but it reduces the capacity to improve the list .

 

[THE_GUN]

The issue isn't whether we will loose one of our top 4 I am also fairly confident they'll all resign . It will however place greater pressure on other areas of our list and let's not forget we need to improve our list not just stagnate .
It wouldn't surprise me if our top 4 will be on more money collectively than any other clubs top 4 . Potentially our least reliable of those 4 has reportable signed for 600k for 5 years . Admittedly when he was vying for the title of our best player , however it was negligent at that time not to think he would be overtaking by Cotchin , Martin and Jack by the time they where due to resign new contracts , being this year .
I think it's more than reasonable to assume all 3 will be more important over the next 5 years and therefore will demand more cash and with 600k being the base the 3 of them could demand 2 -2.3 mill a season between them , which would see close to 3 mill between 4 players . Which would obviously than allow 6mil over the remaining 40 or a average of $150k ??

- your not suggesting that we may lose Luke McGuane due to salary cap pressure are you !!!

 

[velona]

I think this is all by design. Part of the FTF was to allow the club to front load everyone's contract to get up to the full salary cap thereby freeing up cap space in the future.

I.e. cap space is a use it or lose it asset so if you can afford to front load you should. if you don't do this you are at a disadvantage to other clubs who do.

I'm sure Benny was quoted somewhere saying this when explaining the reasons for the ftf .

 

[velona]

Oh and I reckon we might have some issues signing dusty.. The way the club publicly outed him as immature, living with the president so they could keep an eye on him, couldn't cook his own meals, had no life skills was extremely amateur hour by the club. This should have been all kept in house. Hopefully he didn't get offended by it but I wouldn't be surprised if he did and decided to head over to GWS for a pay packet and less exposure/lower profile up in Sydney..

 

[tigerfan1961]

Oh and I reckon we might have some issues signing dusty.. The way the club publicly outed him as immature, living with the president so they could keep an eye on him, couldn't cook his own meals, had no life skills was extremely amateur hour by the club. This should have been all kept in house. Hopefully he didn't get offended by it but I wouldn't be surprised if he did and decided to head over to GWS for a pay packet and less exposure/lower profile up in Sydney..

Zero chance IMO- very much "one of the boys"

 

[Bojangles17]

I think DM looks pretty comfortable in a familiar environment incl his circle of mates outside of footy, being a fairly introverted character id be surprised if he was motivated to interstate

 

[Tigerbob]

DM will sign with us without a shadow of a doubt. No worries there.

 

[THE_GUN]

LOl these comments about dusty leaving for more money - No Chance ,He was offered that chance to go before Scully and stayed.

Martin is not a person that likes change- He will stay and will be rewarded accordingly for his loyalty
Jack,Lids,Cotch,Dusty,Rance are all tiger men

 

[carn tigez]

It's not about the players holding the club to ransom , they will take lesser than they would could get elsewhere , however they are entitled to their standing within the club , the figures I put up IMO are still very valid based on Lids' apparent contract. Sorry but with his inconsistency lids is not anything like a $500k player far less $600k . If he is on $600k IMO he is on at least $150k more than he is worth . i cant see how those better than him can be offered less in essence robbing the cap of $600 k a year minimum .
We will also most likely as you say retain relevant players but it reduces the capacity to improve the list .

His inconsistency? Is that a joke? Lids is easily one of the most consistent players in the AFL, and would be second only to Cotchin at Richmond in the past 15 months (let's see Cotchin do it for 5 years before being sure of this though).

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

His inconsistency? Is that a joke? Lids is easily one of the most consistent players in the AFL, and would be second only to Cotchin at Richmond in the past 15 months (let's see Cotchin do it for 5 years before being sure of this though).

Nah not a joke at all , for a player of his experience the amount of games during a year that he fails to have any impact and is clearly not in the best 5-6 players of the club , is not the consistency of a player worth 500k a year . The fact he has been doing it for 5 years , as you say , simply proves he is consistently , inconsistent .

 

[Infamy]

I think this is all by design. Part of the FTF was to allow the club to front load everyone's contract to get up to the full salary cap thereby freeing up cap space in the future.

I.e. cap space is a use it or lose it asset so if you can afford to front load you should. if you don't do this you are at a disadvantage to other clubs who do.

I'm sure Benny was quoted somewhere saying this when explaining the reasons for the ftf .

100% spot on

 

[pebblestone]

Nah not a joke at all , for a player of his experience the amount of games during a year that he fails to have any impact and is clearly not in the best 5-6 players of the club , is not the consistency of a player worth 500k a year . The fact he has been doing it for 5 years , as you say , simply proves he is consistently , inconsistent .

Has he ever finished outside the top 5 in the b&f in his career?

I don't know, but I doubt it.

Almost never misses a game. Has trouble shaking a tag, but dominates games regularly. 2x b&f, AA last year.... what does he have to do to be top 5 at the club?

 

[Mogwai]

Yeah with Riewoldt's situation I just can't see him screaming out 'Go you Blues' or 'Go you Sainters' at the top of his lungs during the song.

 

[partycorolla]

Has he ever finished outside the top 5 in the b&f in his career?

I don't know, but I doubt it.

Almost never misses a game. Has trouble shaking a tag, but dominates games regularly. 2x b&f, AA last year.... what does he have to do to be top 5 at the club?

Don't bring logic and facts into the conversation.... especially when answering clearly outlandish statements! Just accept that he has been below average in the last 2 weeks and this clearly relates to him being just ok over the last 5 years.

 

[deliberate!!]

No 23's expiry date makes be do cartwheels!!!

Happy days!!!

Bye DJ (pssst.....take McGone with you)

 

[Azzleberry]

No 23's expiry date makes be do cartwheels!!!

Happy days!!!

Bye DJ (pssst.....take McGone with you)

Pfft. Been one of the better players this year and will be a formality to be re-signed during the year. We don't have the skill or depth to be delisting players of Jackson's ability.

Wonder if there will be a special announcement prior to dreamtime game re. a big player extending their contract... Just seems like good PR and to build up the Blockbuster.

 

[juss]

Riewoldt, Martin, Cotchin are safe as houses. No chance they'll leave.
Anyone else I could see testing the waters but those 3 aren't going anywhere.

 

[Cevap_Roll]

I hope none of our top 4 leave for more money.
However the days of free agency means that if we did loose a player for money
to a rival club it will be a lot easier to cover.
If player wanted out than it would just mean we could now be bigger player during FA period.

It's not like the old days anymore. Games changed