Richmond's 7 Consecutive MCG Games

Is Richmond's 7 consecutive games at the MVG unfair?

  • Yes

    Votes: 156 45.3%
  • No

    Votes: 188 54.7%

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Jez1974

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You got 3 games at the G this year. Play everyone twice and you would get 4. So you are willing to travel interstate an extra 6 times just so you get 1 more game of experience at the G? Your logic is seriously fcuked.
If we played everyone twice, home and away, that's a few more than four. You do the maths!
 

Jez1974

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You got 3 games at the G this year. Play everyone twice and you would get 4. So you are willing to travel interstate an extra 6 times just so you get 1 more game of experience at the G? Your logic is seriously fcuked.
We win at the G. Our record over the the l a st good 6 or 7 is pretty damn good
 

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blue harvest

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We win at the G. Our record over the the l a st good 6 or 7 is pretty damn good
So why would you want to travel interstate an extra 6 times just for 1 extra game at the G? Makes zero sense, all that extra travel burden to play 1 more game at a ground you already play well at.
 

blue harvest

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If we played everyone twice, home and away, that's a few more than four. You do the maths!
There are 4 G tenants, you would get 4 games there, Collingwood, Richmond, Hawthorn and Melbourne. Did you really start a new account for this bs? Are you a Freo supporter? That would make more sense.
 

Grin

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17 in Melbourne plus finals. Fair if everyone plays each team twice home and away I reckon. Just saying
Then Melbourne clubs would be playing 26 games in Melbourne and you'd be whinging even harder. But probably only about Richmond.
Although I think the least the AFL could do would be to let Richmond play all of its home games at its home ground, removing at least one of West Coasts many advantages over other clubs.
Oh, Richmond din't play all it's finals in Melbourne. But we shouldn't let facts interfere with this debate. Because facts utterly ruin your narrative of victimhood.
 

VicBased

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Although I think the least the AFL could do would be to let Richmond play all of its home games at its home ground, removing at least one of West Coasts many advantages over other clubs.
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And Richmond don't have that advantage i presume.....in your narrative?
 

Grin

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And Richmond don't have that advantage i presume.....in your narrative?
Should we acknowledge that both teams have advantages and disadvantages? If we do, could Eagles supporters please stop their infernal whinging about how unfair it all is?
 

harrythetiger

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It worked out to be 8 or 9!!! Unlucky to play so many in a row at home. Some of your away games, well most are home ones!!
What would 7 or 8 in a row at Optus do for West Coast. One can only dream
If you had 7 or 8 in a row at Optus you’d win them all as you would anyway because it’s likely all of them are travelling (unlike our run), the kicker would be when you have to travel 7 weeks in a row at some point to make up for it.
 

bh90210fan

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i don't think any team has finished a season with 7 consecutive games at their home venue, with 5 consecutive weeks of 7+ day turnarounds in the most fatiguing part of the season and bound finals. They had the advantage in all those matches purely for the fact they had ideal recovery and preparation conditions.

It happened, and it should never happen again
This.

Richmond fans try reading this and understanding it. The rest of us can
 

TimothyJ23

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However, you cannot discuss the advantage of our run home without also mentioning the disadvantage we had in the first half of the year with our draw. Therein lies the problem with this discussion of opinions. Unless you can look at the year as a whole, you are not seriously giving the topic a balanced view. Last time I looked, games at the start, middle and end of the year were worth exactly the same value - 4 points. The bye at the end of the year mitigates much of any team's soft runs into the finals. Every team has a rest. We then had to travel interstate to a hostile environment, absorb everything Brisbane had to throw at us and still won easily. Hardly unfair if you look at it like that.
You still misunderstand the discussion, because the disadvantage at the front end is part of the issue as well - but it's not about Richmond. It's not Richmond's fault - it's an issue that needs addressing.

You're trying to defend something that's not actually in question.
 

Boston tiger

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It worked out to be 8 or 9!!! Unlucky to play so many in a row at home. Some of your away games, well most are home ones!!
What would 7 or 8 in a row at Optus do for West Coast. One can only dream
I thought the thinking was always get your wins early and then it’s easier to manage players etc and things at the end of the year. I think the AFL probably thought like most people having the last 7 games at the G was going to be too little too late.

7 home games at the G isn’t like 7 home games at West Coast. 7 home games at the G can easily mean 7 Derbies in a row which is quite taxing and daunting. 8 Melbourne teams with one 100,000 seat stadium stadium means plenty of games at the G.
 

mickctiger

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Clear thinking is obviously missing with some people on this thread.
Richmond had 13 games at the MCG , their "home" ground, OTO, West Coast had 12 games at their Home Ground, so no real advantage there.
Richmond played 7 games in a row at the MCG this season (with at least half of those against fellow "co-tennants" ) which was more than negated by the fact that we did most of our travelling before the bye.
So argument that we somehow had such an advantage is absolute nonsense.
 

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bh90210fan

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Considering that you get a minimum of 12 games at your home ground each season, If I were you, probably stop arguing at this point.
You leave the Melbourne CBD a whole 5 times a year and act as though playing a game at Etihad is as rough as traveling across the country

17 games in your home state yet non Victorian clubs still somehow play on more grounds in Victoria than you lot. It’s mind boggling really

All finals in Victoria on your home ground, the grand final.

7 games in a row to finish off the season, with all of those 7+ day breaks being the cherry on top for Richmond in an already uneven competition. You know it, just don’t want to admit it
 

kranky al

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Curious...10 pages later, and still nobody can answer what they'd consider to be a fair fixture.

The obvious conclusion is that they don't have one, and just want to have a sook.
Id argue its very difficult to create a fair fixture as theres too many teams in victoria

But one way of 1) evening up the travel burden and 2) giving mcg clubs what they always ask for ie true hga

Vic clubs play every interstate team home and away every year and the other melbourne teams once alternating home and away.

Bang - 8 times you travel per year compared to interstate teams 10

And bang around 9-10 games a year with a real home ground advantage.
 

GhostofJimJess

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Id argue its very difficult to create a fair fixture as theres too many teams in victoria

But one way of 1) evening up the travel burden and 2) giving mcg clubs what they always ask for ie true hga

Vic clubs play every interstate team home and away every year and the other melbourne teams once alternating home and away.

Bang - 8 times you travel per year compared to interstate teams 10

And bang around 9-10 games a year with a real home ground advantage.
In theory, one of the best suggestions yet. In practice, you're not gonna get any traction with it whatsoever. Like it or not, it's the big blockbusters (Richmond v Collingwood, Hawthorn v Geelong, Carlton v Essendon, the SA and WA derbies) that are bankrolling this whole thing, whether it be monster crowds or big TV ratings - probably more the latter nowadays.

The AFL are not going to slash the number of these blockbusters to accommodate an extra Richmond v Gold Coast or Freo v Collingwood, just to appease frequent flyer advocates. It's just not going to happen.

We don't even really have the option in Australia to become conference oriented and have separate fixtures and tables for the more proximate clubs. Sadly, I think you're just going to have to come terms with the reality that you live and participate in a vast country which requires its remote clubs to clock up more kms over the course of a season.

Or you can continue to perennially attempt to dilute the achievements of those majority of clubs who, through some stroke of good fortune, are more geographically compatible.
 

blue harvest

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Id argue its very difficult to create a fair fixture as theres too many teams in victoria

But one way of 1) evening up the travel burden and 2) giving mcg clubs what they always ask for ie true hga

Vic clubs play every interstate team home and away every year and the other melbourne teams once alternating home and away.

Bang - 8 times you travel per year compared to interstate teams 10

And bang around 9-10 games a year with a real home ground advantage.
But then the interstate clubs would never play each other except for their local derbies. Imagine the uproar when you get an away final at a ground your team has never been to and against a team you have never played.
 
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VicBased

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Should we acknowledge that both teams have advantages and disadvantages? If we do, could Eagles supporters please stop their infernal whinging about how unfair it all is?
100% agree that the AFL fixture is compromised, giving advantages and disadvantages. I also do not think Interstate supporters whinge, we just point out the disparity's associated with playing in a comp that is heavily Victoria advantaged. For this to become a truly National comp there needs to be changes. Will that happen...yes, but not in this decade, maybe next. By the way, i was stoked to see Cousins running out in the Yellow and Black and wished he had a longer stint at the Tiges.
 

harrythetiger

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We played 13 games on our home ground. We played 13 games on our oppositions home ground. That’s even with me being kind and not counting Carlton and Essendon at the G, otherwise make it 16.
 

blue harvest

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Let’s not pretend that they were disadvantaged here, they just weren’t good enough. They still played on their home ground
They had no advantage despite finishing top, they were disadvantaged compared to Eagles who had a cushy home prelim with massive hga including 95% of the crowd.
Swings and roundabouts, but you guys only want to look at the swings.
 

bh90210fan

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They had no advantage despite finishing top, they were disadvantaged compared to Eagles who had a cushy home prelim with massive hga including 95% of the crowd.
Swings and roundabouts, but you guys only want to look at the swings.
One team needed hga to beat Collingwood, the premiership team overcame it
 

Yoey

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With the Bulldogs winning it back in 2016 it pretty much shows how much advantage the Vic sides get, I look at it this way though..if and when we win a flag its a herculean effort and well deserved.
 
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