Richmond's 7 Consecutive MCG Games
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Bulldogs had 2 interstate finals, a final against the reigning premier at the premier's home ground, then played the GF at a ground they had played at the same number of times as the Swans.
After getting hga in the prelim.
Swings and roundabouts. No one will take your posts seriously when you ignore the half of the argument that doesn't fit your narrative.
Is life unfair? Absolutely.
What do you do about it? What you can effectively.
Does this discussion do that?
No.
All this discussion does is highlight the problem with the draw. For Richmond, the problem was overcoming a difficult draw at the start when teams often set their season up. We didn't get that advantage. However, we acknowledge the run home was favourable but we still had to win 12 games in a row to win the GF. That's difficult even with a favourable run as history will show that not many sides have achieved that.
That's why there is no point discussing this. Even with favourable draws, you still have to be good enough. West Coast had a favourable last game at home against a team with nothing to play for. West Coast didn't need to travel. They could relax knowing that there would be a bye following that would rest them further. Did that favour them? It should have but didn't because they weren't good enough to win.
That was the difference between Richmond and West Coast. When things were favourable, we made the most of it because we were good. West Coast didn't because they weren't good enough.
Therein lies the real issue here and people can whinge and whine as much as they like.
What do you do about it? What you can effectively.
Does this discussion do that?
No.
All this discussion does is highlight the problem with the draw. For Richmond, the problem was overcoming a difficult draw at the start when teams often set their season up. We didn't get that advantage. However, we acknowledge the run home was favourable but we still had to win 12 games in a row to win the GF. That's difficult even with a favourable run as history will show that not many sides have achieved that.
That's why there is no point discussing this. Even with favourable draws, you still have to be good enough. West Coast had a favourable last game at home against a team with nothing to play for. West Coast didn't need to travel. They could relax knowing that there would be a bye following that would rest them further. Did that favour them? It should have but didn't because they weren't good enough to win.
That was the difference between Richmond and West Coast. When things were favourable, we made the most of it because we were good. West Coast didn't because they weren't good enough.
Therein lies the real issue here and people can whinge and whine as much as they like.
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i think what we have learnt is that every flag won by a victorian team needs a * in front of it
Damn using Marvel for home games is bad enough, but a "home" final at the Gabba in Brisbane, that's taking things way to far !!!!!
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and interstate teams with Victorian players
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No ones acting as if Docklands is like traveling across the Country. It is a very different ground, with different quirks than the MCG, though. Besides whinging about Richmond playing 13 games at the MCG, when you play 12 at Optus stadium is nonsensical and smacks of entitlement.
You do realise that Richmond are scheduled to play games at Marvel, as well as the MCG, don't you, and in many cases have to play at Kardinia Park. It's not as if we always play at the G, and no where else, as you seem to be suggesting
And, as has been explained to you on numerous occasions, those 7 games in a row at the MCG were more than negated by the amount of Travel that Richmond had to undertake prior to their mid-season bye. In other words, the argument that Richmond some how got this "big advantage" is nonsensical. Especially when put by a WCE fan whose club only plays one game less at their home venue than Richmond did in 2019. If anything your argument smacks of sour grapes over Richmonds success this year.
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no one will take your posts seriously when you try to argue Richmond were disadvantaged playing a game on their home ground
When a non Victorian team gets home ground advantage in a final after finishing below their opponent that’s around the time I’ll start talking about swings and roundabouts
We scraped over the line by a few points against Essendoin and the Bulldogs at the end of the season, we were not in good form coming into finals unlike Collingwood who were, that is what cost us the GF. To win the GF you need a good run at it, like GWS did this year. Unfortunately they played their GF the week before against Collingwood and could rise the next level to win. HGA had nothing to do with it last year.
I said disadvantaged compared to the Eagles.
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Looks like that one sentence was a bit much for you to comprehend
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West Coast had to beat Collingwood on Richmond’s home ground and did
Richmond only had to win on their home ground to win the flag and couldn’t
Compared to west Coast, Richmond had it easy
You're trying to move the goalposts because you know you got it wrong.
We were comparing the hga in the prelims.
Eagles got a massive one, Tigers got none.
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Spot on AT, very well put.
Good old bh90210fan is swimming against the tide here, he knows it, but just cant let it go.
I would prefer we play our home games at the ground we train on.
But I am willing to concede that as the leagues number one club, we need to help subside it.
How many wins a year as an advantage do the clubs get that play and train on the same grounds?
The MCG by the way is the most neutral venue in league, now yes, Richmond have a great record on it, but we have a great record at every venue.
But I am willing to concede that as the leagues number one club, we need to help subside it.
How many wins a year as an advantage do the clubs get that play and train on the same grounds?
The MCG by the way is the most neutral venue in league, now yes, Richmond have a great record on it, but we have a great record at every venue.
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why is it that west coast fans make up 90% of the people complaining about the victorian teams? youd say it was something to do with wa/perth but freo supporters seem to be decent people
Of the 13 games prior to the Bye, Richmond played 6 games at the MCG and 3 others in Victoria at Marvel Stadium.
Of the 9 games after the Bye, Richmond played 7 games at the MCG and 1 other in Victoria at Marvel Stadium.
Of the 9 games after the Bye, Richmond played 7 games at the MCG and 1 other in Victoria at Marvel Stadium.
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15-36 It's pretty much exactly the same as Geelong's record at Punt rd. (15-2-36)
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You’re trying to make it out as though Richmond were disadvantaged in their prelim, they weren’t
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