RIEWOLDT To debut

[tugga]

thats 15s for 100m, very sluggish

You're right. I crawl quicker than that on my way home from the pub.

 

[tigerT]

thats 15s for 100m, very sluggish

...lol

 

[tigerT]

i know collingwood were interested in him but didnt take him because they thought he was too slow but he runs a 3.1 20m sprint which i think would be average to top in terms of speed for people his size

This is just my opinion and im not claiming to be a guru but my own doubts stem from not so much his speed off the mark (3.1 is just average anyhow) its the question mark on his ability to maintain pace on a reasonably long lead and not allow defenders to close at the death. Not sure whther its just that he needs more strength work in his thighs and gluts and this will improve him in this area or whther he just naturally doesnt have the pace? I guess time will tell..

 

[Richo for PM]

thats 15s for 100m, very sluggish

mare ur an idiot - the 20 m test is taken from a standing start so obviously he is not going to run every 20 m at 3 seconds
he would be as quick as schultz and petts

 

[CoggaRules]

mare ur an idiot - the 20 m test is taken from a standing start so obviously he is not going to run every 20 m at 3 seconds
he would be as quick as schultz and petts

hmm, not bad....looks like we are injecting pace, into the already developed, blistering pace

 

[Bazzar]

thats 15s for 100m, very sluggish

Why

Do you understand the breakdown of sprinting

initial acceleration, secondary acceleration and metabolic stiffness transition

3.1 is about spot on for someone approaching the elite levels.

Someone like big Plugger would be quicker over the first 10 than a 100 meter Olympic Champ then he would fade and fade fast. The sprinter will gain rapidly. From a static start athletes increase velocity due to a rise in both stride length and frequency, thats the initial acceleration. between 10 and 30 meters velocity continues to rise due to an increase in stride length. So you cannot just multiply 3.1 by 5 to get a 100meter split thats silly

 

[CoggaRules]

Why

Do you understand the breakdown of sprinting

initial acceleration, secondary acceleration and metabolic stiffness transition

3.1 is about spot on for someone approaching the elite levels.

Someone like big Plugger would be quicker over the first 10 than a 100 meter Olympic Champ then he would fade and fade fast. The sprinter will gain rapidly. From a static start athletes increase velocity due to a rise in both stride length and frequency, thats the initial acceleration. between 10 and 30 meters velocity continues to rise due to an increase in stride length. So you cannot just multiply 3.1 by 5 to get a 100meter split thats silly

the late great captain blood would have partied on this sentence.

 

[polakthetiger]

metabolic stiffness transition


I was lucky enough to get to that stage last night

 

[Bazzar]

metabolic stiffness transition


I was lucky enough to get to that stage last night

I get it every morning

 

[_RT_]

As much as we are crying out for something to hang our hats on after a horrible start can we let Jack and others actually show something at AFL level before we start labelling them the saviours of the club. Remember a few years back Schulz kicked 6 against the almighty Lions and has not really come close since. Would be great for Jack to get out on Saturday night take a few grabs kick a goal or 2 and enjoy his first game without having to think "Good Lord they think I am going to save them".

 

[Blasé]

leather wallet has done his job again: take the focus off performance, and focus on the youth.

jay schultz.
cleve hughes.
and now jumping jack riewoldt.
all first round picks, except they were quite late. some look to the future, as in a glance, and then keep the spin going. this yr has similarities to ours in 2005, giving away performance for the experience of youth and getting the priority pick, except you don't get it till next yr (another write off!).

more draftees needed, you need those high picks.

i thought i'd offer some advice considering a tiger supporter did an analysis of our team, named 'deluded tiger fan'.

 

[Bojangles17]

good luck to JR, he's a tough kid so expect him to take everything they throw at him, saw him get crunched in a contest last week that would have had the likes of Tarrant stretchered

Earn your stripes young man, make every post a winner

Eat'em Alive

 

[The Dice Man]

Go Young Tiger... Rip Their ****in Heads Orrrrfffffffff!!!!!!!!!!

 

[lids2004roar]

I just realised.

He must be related to Nick Riewoldt! Omg I hope he turns out just as good!

 

[The Dice Man]

I just realised.

He must be related to Nick Riewoldt! Omg I hope he turns out just as good!

 

[The Dice Man]

I reckon Abe was part Aboriginal personally.


Woulda been great out off the half foward flank!

 

[Bazzar]

I just realised.

He must be related to Nick Riewoldt! Omg I hope he turns out just as good!

Bennys back.

 

[jimmy15_]

leather wallet has done his job again: take the focus off performance, and focus on the youth.

jay schultz.
cleve hughes.
and now jumping jack riewoldt.
all first round picks, except they were quite late. some look to the future, as in a glance, and then keep the spin going. this yr has similarities to ours in 2005, giving away performance for the experience of youth and getting the priority pick, except you don't get it till next yr (another write off!).

more draftees needed, you need those high picks.

i thought i'd offer some advice considering a tiger supporter did an analysis of our team, named 'deluded tiger fan'.

if you are going to come on our board, at least come with the right facts, Cleve Hughes was a 2nd round pick, we aren't talking about Beau Dowler here mate

 

[tugga]

yeah its good news. We see another newbie on the big stage.
Lets just wait and see if he doesnt do what another "gunna be the messiah" did.
Take a guess....if he does do what the last one did, he will end his footy career at the team that he played against last week. ANd that iafter 5 minutes in senior footy, relatively speaking, via the stupid saints.

Big difference between Plapp and Riewoldt, Cogga.
Plapp was an in between player, similar to Daniel jackson, in that he didn't have the height or physical presence to play KP and didn't have the engine to play midfield. His type are a dime a dozen. Starred at VFL level, but wasn't up to it at AFL level.
Now Riewoldt may turn out to be not up to it, and can I see where you're coming from but Riewoldt at least has the height to play KP and takes a contested mark (from what I've heard...I've seen as much of him as you).
LMAO at all the tigerheads (me included) being worked into a frenzy about Plapp a decade ago. How wrong we were. You may end up being right about Jack, you may end up being wrong, it will be interesting to see how he goes.

 

[lookkg386]

Big difference between Plapp and Riewoldt, Cogga.
Plapp was an in between player, similar to Daniel jackson, in that he didn't have the height or physical presence to play KP and didn't have the engine to play midfield. His type are a dime a dozen. Starred at VFL level, but wasn't up to it at AFL level.
Now Riewoldt may turn out to be not up to it, and can I see where you're coming from but Riewoldt at least has the height to play KP and takes a contested mark (from what I've heard...I've seen as much of him as you).
LMAO at all the tigerheads (me included) being worked into a frenzy about Plapp a decade ago. How wrong we were. You may end up being right about Jack, you may end up being wrong, it will be interesting to see how he goes.

Justin Plapp, LOL

I thought all Richmond supporters agreed never say that name again.

 

[Weaver]

Big difference between Plapp and Riewoldt, Cogga.
Plapp was an in between player, similar to Daniel jackson, in that he didn't have the height or physical presence to play KP and didn't have the engine to play midfield. His type are a dime a dozen. Starred at VFL level, but wasn't up to it at AFL level.

The Plapp comparison is laughable.

Plapp was closer to Russell Robertson. A 185cm guy whose main love in life was flying for speccies from 5-men back. Plapp had a giant leap but was too small.

Now Riewoldt may turn out to be not up to it, and can I see where you're coming from but Riewoldt at least has the height to play KP and takes a contested mark (from what I've heard...I've seen as much of him as you).

Reiwoldt has great eye-hand co-ordination and can take one grab marks. He reads the ball well in the air. At the moment his weakness is that like a young Richo he wants to play from behind and wrestle. Gets a lot of his marks holding his man under the ball.

He won't get away with that in the AFL. He needs to move around, get in front, work up to the wing. That is probably why the club have held him back.

I think they might be quietly hoping that he debuts and learns that he can't base his game on contested marking and wrestling. That might inspire him to listen to the coaches and begin working harder around the forward-50.

LMAO at all the tigerheads (me included) being worked into a frenzy about Plapp a decade ago. How wrong we were.

I think the people who got excited were those who never saw the reserves play! Sometimes excitment and a bit of hype equals a cult figure. I don't think too many people thought he was the saviour - just a favourite cult figure. Nothing quite like screaming Plappppp at the top of your voice as he jumps over a pack and lands before the kick arrives

 

[jezza]

Reiwoldt has great eye-hand co-ordination and can take one grab marks. He reads the ball well in the air. At the moment his weakness is that like a young Richo he wants to play from behind and wrestle. Gets a lot of his marks holding his man under the ball.

He won't get away with that in the AFL. He needs to move around, get in front, work up to the wing. That is probably why the club have held him back.

I think they might be quietly hoping that he debuts and learns that he can't base his game on contested marking and wrestling. That might inspire him to listen to the coaches and begin working harder around the forward-50.

Weaver I watched him closely on the weekend and you are exactly right. In the last quarter in particular, he refused to lead at all and demanded the ball be kicked to him on the spot so he could have a one on one contest with his man. One incident in particular annoyed me, because a Coburg player had the ball outside 50 and was looking for an option. Everyone else had cleared out so there was acres of space, but he refused to move and ended up trying to take a speccy and gave away a free. In the time he had, Richo would have made 3 different leads, but Jack didn't leave the top of the square at all.

I'm hoping it was partly fatigue and partly to do something special in front of a home crowd that were giving it to him a bit.

Would love to see him working a bit harder and playing from in front. As you say, he won't get away with it much at AFL level so he's going to have to change his game. Admittedly he does mark from behind very well, but VFL defenders are not a patch on what he'll come up against this week.

 

[slightlycynical]

Would love to see him working a bit harder and playing from in front. As you say, he won't get away with it much at AFL level so he's going to have to change his game. Admittedly he does mark from behind very well, but VFL defenders are not a patch on what he'll come up against this week.

Agree with you both... although its worthwhile noting that when he did go on the lead he looked awesome.
He has to watch his hands in the one on one contest at AFL level though... I can see him giving away lots of free kicks over the short term.