Preview Rnd 11 - Carlton v Sydney Sunday May 30th 3.20PM @ SCG

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Very surprised with casboult in for plowman .. I really don't like pitto king cas in same side .. but hey I'm a supporter not a selector ..
What percentage of the game do you think all three will be on the field at the same time?

I reckon....Pitto off 20 percent (TDKruck then), Cas off 20, TDk off 25.

So maybe a 1/3 of the game? Of which mckay will be off some of so they will be covering him.

When they go with Pitto, TDk or Cas and Harry it ends up nearly half the game we have only one ‘key’ forward. And they get worn out competing.

It hurts Mckay (too easily double teamed) and SOs (forced to play on second best defender.

Not saying I agree with their logic....but I get it.
 

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Cottrell has held his spot well. Seems to fly under the radar a bit.

Would love a massive game from Setterfield - still think he is building.
Agree re Setterfield, people forget he's only played 46 games. What he does he does with relative ease as classy players do.

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Expecting some big TOG minutes for our midfielders with that line-up - hopefully Setterfield can use the continuity to show his worth as an inside-mid. Play him on the defensive side of the stoppage and watch him flourish.

Hopefully Doc can still move up to the wing even with Plowman out of the starting back six.
I would expect Doc to play wing after his recent great form there, with Williams and Saad providing drive from half back.

Maybe Stocker to drop back and get the job on Papley.
 

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What percentage of the game do you think all three will be on the field at the same time?

I reckon....Pitto off 20 percent (TDKruck then), Cas off 20, TDk off 25.

So maybe a 1/3 of the game? Of which mckay will be off some of so they will be covering him.

When they go with Pitto, TDk or Cas and Harry it ends up nearly half the game we have only one ‘key’ forward. And they get worn out competing.

It hurts Mckay (too easily double teamed) and SOs (forced to play on second best defender.

Not saying I agree with their logic....but I get it.
Why this strategy specifically against swans though?

Is it because it creates an advantage in match ups against swans side or does it boost our game style when playing on a smaller ground?
 

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What percentage of the game do you think all three will be on the field at the same time?

I reckon....Pitto off 20 percent (TDKruck then), Cas off 20, TDk off 25.

So maybe a 1/3 of the game? Of which mckay will be off some of so they will be covering him.

When they go with Pitto, TDk or Cas and Harry it ends up nearly half the game we have only one ‘key’ forward. And they get worn out competing.

It hurts Mckay (too easily double teamed) and SOs (forced to play on second best defender.

Not saying I agree with their logic....but I get it.
It’s a long straw , but I get your logic , should the heavens open though ? we’re truly stuffed, playing 4 blokes 2 meters + and 2 of them with little footy IQ and one skinny fellow that can be bundled over , on a heavy ground is a recipe for defeat.
 

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What percentage of the game do you think all three will be on the field at the same time?

I reckon....Pitto off 20 percent (TDKruck then), Cas off 20, TDk off 25.

So maybe a 1/3 of the game? Of which mckay will be off some of so they will be covering him.

When they go with Pitto, TDk or Cas and Harry it ends up nearly half the game we have only one ‘key’ forward. And they get worn out competing.

It hurts Mckay (too easily double teamed) and SOs (forced to play on second best defender.

Not saying I agree with their logic....but I get it.
Yes I see there logic -- with all our forwards missing even the guy we took as cover in pre season -- we also screaming for that third tall defender to cover Jones weiters- pity kemp no VFL this week
 

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Why this strategy specifically against swans though?

Is it because it creates an advantage in match ups against swans side or does it boost our game style when playing on a smaller ground?
I don’t think it’s about the Swans. It’s about recently Harry has been a little down, a little injured, and they can’t put all their eggs in that basket. The forwards are getting outmarked too easily which is sling shotting our opposition out of our forward line too easily.
 

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I don’t think it’s about the Swans. It’s about recently Harry has been a little down, a little injured, and they can’t put all their eggs in that basket. The forwards are getting outmarked too easily which is sling shotting our opposition out of our forward line too easily.
Agree but the other issue we have had forward, is that apart from Betts, we have not had very little from other small forwards like Forgarty, Gibbons or even Owies, win ground balls. None of them have been able to create ground ball goals off packs or with hard defensive run, which turns into goals. JSoS has done better and he is a 3rd tall.
 

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What percentage of the game do you think all three will be on the field at the same time?

I reckon....Pitto off 20 percent (TDKruck then), Cas off 20, TDk off 25.

So maybe a 1/3 of the game? Of which mckay will be off some of so they will be covering him.

When they go with Pitto, TDk or Cas and Harry it ends up nearly half the game we have only one ‘key’ forward. And they get worn out competing.

It hurts Mckay (too easily double teamed) and SOs (forced to play on second best defender.

Not saying I agree with their logic....but I get it.
This would make sense if we were a team able to deliver inside 50 with a degree of thought and precision. That ain’t us however.
 

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Agree re Setterfield, people forget he's only played 46 games. What he does he does with relative ease as classy players do.

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I would hope both these guys can still improve an awful lot...
Cottrell seems a bit under done... he is fit for a full term run,thats a tick however he has not seen an abundance of disposals etc..Newnes would easily be better than him overall,however long term he may have the potential,needs bit more bulk ,stronger,more impact,more involvement etc..
Setterfield had been noted as being on a downhill trend since late 2020....now improving ?
 
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