Toast Rnd 13: Win against the Hawkes

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Towno78

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I'd be very surprised if anyone had ridiculed you. Maybe your foggy memory has clouded that too?
At the time:
- we were looking like a bottom 4 side
- most thought Francis would never play again, or not ever be fit enough to.
- plenty of question about Hooker's fitness going forward
- Gleeson long term injuries.
- Goddard was still playing on his last legs, so Redman still hadn't played seniors and Ridley barely, so most didn't know what we had there.
- BigFooty Essendon board as a whole was not a fun place to be.

I'm not sure how anything on Bigfooty would surprise you.
 

doug85

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At the time:
- we were looking like a bottom 4 side
- most thought Francis would never play again, or not ever be fit enough to.
- plenty of question about Hooker's fitness going forward
- Gleeson long term injuries.
- Goddard was still playing on his last legs, so Redman still hadn't played seniors and Ridley barely, so most didn't know what we had there.
- BigFooty Essendon board as a whole was not a fun place to be.

I'm not sure how anything on Bigfooty would surprise you.
You remember all those details? Thought you couldn’t remember what happened last night.
 

Towno78

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You remember all those details? Thought you couldn’t remember what happened last night.
Watching the EFC leaves scars on my retinas, all I need to do is blink 10 times quickly, and images of all our failures over the last 18 years, literally flash before my very eyes.
 

BrunoV

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I really don't know what to think about this sport anymore.

From the ground this game was a steaming pile of horses**t that admittedly looked much better on TV (where you can't see how much of a dogs breakfast the "structures" are).

Hawks are pretty bad and we really didn't bury the game which should have been dead by 3/4, I'm looking at you Laverde - I'm sick of having to wait one more week before gloating. Hoochie Mama!

The back six is a thing of beauty, particularly now that McKenna has hit top form (I thought he was clearly BOG). The ball use of our much vaunted midfielders and some of the usual suspects is atrocious - they are handball specialists.

It's very hard to work out where the team really sits, for all of the obvious reasons. It's always hard to know how much of the psychological stuff you project as a viewer but, in my view, the team generally does not look confident. Maybe trying a bit too hard trying to play 1 way and knowing that we probably can't win the alternative.

Despite what some of the number may have said in the first half, I never really thought that Hawthorn was controlling the play. Holding on to the ball is one thing but it is not like there was any danger of that possession being converted to scores with the amount of time it gave us to flood back. It was more like possession was ceded as long as it did not result in scores.

If West Coast is playing its good football on Thursday, we will need to be able to engage playing slow because they'll be able to shut down the quick transition (meaning that we will need a measured build up for at least half of our scores from half back).
 
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boncer34

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At the time:
- we were looking like a bottom 4 side
- most thought Francis would never play again, or not ever be fit enough to.
- plenty of question about Hooker's fitness going forward
- Gleeson long term injuries.
- Goddard was still playing on his last legs, so Redman still hadn't played seniors and Ridley barely, so most didn't know what we had there.
- BigFooty Essendon board as a whole was not a fun place to be.

I'm not sure how anything on Bigfooty would surprise you.
Very accurate recollection. Bizarre.
 

fishardansin

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I really don't know what to think about this sport anymore.

From the ground this game was a steaming pile of ********* that admittedly looked much better on TV (where you can't see how much of a dogs breakfast the "structures" are).

Hawks are pretty bad and we really didn't bury the game which should have been dead by 3/4, I'm looking at you Laverde - I'm sick of having to wait one more week before gloating. Hoochie Mama!

The back six is a thing of beauty, particularly now that McKenna has hit top form (I thought he was clearly BOG). The ball use of our much vaunted midfielders and some of the usual suspects is atrocious - they are handball specialists.

It's very hard to work out where the team really sits, for all of the obvious reasons. It's always hard to know how much of the psychological stuff you project as a viewer but, in my view, the team generally does not look confident. Maybe trying a bit too hard trying to play 1 way and knowing that we probably can't win the alternative.

Despite what some of the number may have said in the first half, I never really thought that Hawthorn was controlling the play. Holding on to the ball is one thing but it is not like there was any danger of that possession being converted to scores with the amount of time it gave us to flood back. It was more like possession was ceded as long as it did not result in scores.

If West Coast is playing its good football on Thursday, we will need to be able to engage playing slow because I they'll be able to shut down the quick transition (meaning that we will need a measured build up for at least half of our scores from half back).
Agree with the bolded. We were winning all the traditional football stats. Contested possession, tackling and marking.

However we were also turning the ball over a lot. Then they would chip chip chip the ball into a shallow inside 50 which we'd win back.

This meant they had more time in possession and higher disposal numbers, however, it felt like Essendon was the better team throughout this.

What i was upset with was missing sitters, some dodgy frees and that brain fart on the goal line meant we went into half time 1 goal up when we should have been 4 goals up. That would have meant our 3rd quarter burst would have completely killed the game.

As an Essendon supporter I saw a lot of 2004 or 2005 Essendon in Hawthorn. Have fun with the next decade folks.
 

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Eleven 38

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Surely stomping will cost weeks, plural... People seem to get very het-up about kicking someone for some reason
Just saw the stomping incident before. That has the potential to break a foot/ end career. That has to be weeks.

The pinching is hurting another player and instigating a possible retaliation. It probably should be atleast a week too, they probably wont give him one.
 

Harlequin

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Coming in peace.

Difficult pill to swallow but Strats wasn't a captains a-hole the other night. Apologies for the bullsh*t behaviour that was on display. Has no place in our game.
Thanks for popping over.

Whilst I appreciate the sentiment I don’t believe you need to apologise. The supporters are not to blame for idiotic player behaviour.

As others have said your board generally were not happy with the actions of Stratton which is good to see.

Anyway, good luck against Sydney next week.
 

CBombers17

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Did anyone read the article about security there?

https://coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/afl/afl-2019-journalist-says-shed-never-felt-so-awkward-in-the-crowd-at-essendonhawthorn-clash/news-story/01dd027342463f1e36f33516883b747b

I also caught a bit of the Carlton game on telly tonight. The security there seem like fascists pigs.
I hadn't been to the footy for ages till last ANZAC Day and I noticed a big difference with this. I actually felt uncomfortable with the eyes everywhere.

I've never felt uncomfortable at the footy till the AFL try and "fix things". Big suprise there.

Hard to imagine ramped up clueless security numptys with a plastic badge getting it wrong as well.
 

CBombers17

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AFL should consider sending Stratton as a delegate to the Australian sporting ignoramus round table.

Kyrgios and Tomic there to represent tennis, Folau and Hayne to represent all 37 rugby codes, Warner for cricket, Bogut for basketball and Muscat for soccer.
You would need an extra 10 to 15 rugby to represent proportionally though
 

Harlequin

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AFL should consider sending Stratton as a delegate to the Australian sporting ignoramus round table.

Kyrgios and Tomic there to represent tennis, Folau and Hayne to represent all 37 rugby codes, Warner for cricket, Bogut for basketball and Muscat for soccer.
Does George Calombaris get the catering gig?
 

Old Campaigner

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AFL should consider sending Stratton as a delegate to the Australian sporting ignoramus round table.

Kyrgios and Tomic there to represent tennis, Folau and Hayne to represent all 37 rugby codes, Warner for cricket, Bogut for basketball and Muscat for soccer.
I liked Kevin Muscat though. In a sport full of over paid pretty boys diving for frees you knew that when he tackled a bloke they weren't faking it. Bought a bit of respectability to the game.
 

yaco55

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It was a true six or seven goal game - Structurally we are sound team, though just lacking a bit of consistency over four quarters and that extra spark which are key features of the top teams - I suspect this could turn quickly, even in the space of a year.
 

westking

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It was a true six or seven goal game - Structurally we are sound team, though just lacking a bit of consistency over four quarters and that extra spark which are key features of the top teams - I suspect this could turn quickly, even in the space of a year.
I hope your observations are true but I keep getting sucked in. However I will believe it when I see it.
 

duckdog

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Haven't been right through the thread so forgive me if already said but what i loved in watching the replay was the amount of give offs by hand followed by a shepherd/block..
If we are to play with spirit and flair rather than the robot structure style footy then i reckon that is a pretty good way to operate
 
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