Preview Rnd 17 - Carlton v St Kilda Friday July 13 Darklands 7.50pm

[SkyhorseTamer]

Fair, but is he attending some center bounce or a decent proportion of them? And is he fully fit? thanks

Was actually playing off HB last week a bit. Since his foot injury he hasn’t been attending many centre bounces. No one in our team isclose to fully fit

 

[Mr_Plow]

For sure.

Any concerns about the elevated heartbeat? What are the complexities beyond him just being a bit underdone?

It was either going to be a structural/functional heart abnormality = out for the season for health safety reasons or relatively benign elevated heart rate due to environmental conditions (heat/humidity) + lack of fitness = fine for this week.

If an independent cardiologist has cleared him, he should hopefully be fine.

The issue with electrical heart abnormalities is that they can occur suddenly and cause symptoms and then before you even get the chance to get an ECG on the person they are back to normal rhythm.

So, I'm assuming during the week they've done some exercise/stress ECGs/ultrasounds on Caleb with presumably no significant results.

 

[Cowboyblues]

He was lethal in that role in the first quarter, would be nice if he can manage that lethality for 2-3 quarters.

Lethality. Might be my new fave word

 

[TerryWallet]

Shaw should be dropped and never put on a Carlton jumper again - do I win ??

Never been this excited for a debutante since Mark Whiley !!

Whiley was a real high...but Shaw evokes Glen Bowyer levels of excitement.

 

[MightyMighties]

Maybe he just hasn’t heard what his role is?


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Got a chuckle out of me

 

[RudyBlue]

11/22 will be 21 or under tomorrow night

 

[RudyBlue]

It was either going to be a structural/functional heart abnormality = out for the season for health safety reasons or relatively benign elevated heart rate due to environmental conditions (heat/humidity) + lack of fitness = fine for this week.

If an independent cardiologist has cleared him, he should hopefully be fine.

The issue with electrical heart abnormalities is that they can occur suddenly and cause symptoms and then before you even get the chance to get an ECG on the person they are back to normal rhythm.

So, I'm assuming during the week they've done some exercise/stress ECGs/ultrasounds on Caleb with presumably no significant results.

Cheers.

How would they determine that his heartbeat is too high? Comparisons with expected value +/- reasonable variance?

 

[AceAndy]

It was either going to be a structural/functional heart abnormality = out for the season for health safety reasons or relatively benign elevated heart rate due to environmental conditions (heat/humidity) + lack of fitness = fine for this week.

If an independent cardiologist has cleared him, he should hopefully be fine.

The issue with electrical heart abnormalities is that they can occur suddenly and cause symptoms and then before you even get the chance to get an ECG on the person they are back to normal rhythm.

So, I'm assuming during the week they've done some exercise/stress ECGs/ultrasounds on Caleb with presumably no significant results.

Are you in the medical profession Mr_Plow ? Sounds very Doctorish.

 

[RudyBlue]

Are you in the medical profession Mr_Plow ? Sounds very Doctorish.

He's our resident doctor

 

[TooBlue14]

That’s 7 to 4. And I’m sure they’d play Battle and McCartin if they weren’t injured.


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8-4 (forgot curnow)

 

[Bluechip66]

Who is this McKay bloke?
Where did he come from?

 

[F_therest]

I’m happy with that.

Charlie, Harry, Pickett, Garlett, SPS & Dow as starting forwards. Mobile, good mix of pace and size.


Like the starting mid group: Kreuzer, Kennedy, Curnow, Cripps, Fisher & Murph.

Backline feels balanced with Rowe, Jones, Marchbank as ‘talls’ and Simmo, Daisy and Jed as the smalls.

Bench of Shaw, Polson, Silvagni, O’Brien has a fair bit of run and Silvagni gives some versatility in that it seems like they play him in a different part of the ground each week.

Good luck to Shaw on his debut.

Go Blues.


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It's actually not a bad team on paper...

Just need the guys to be fit and full of run, committed and coached well.

Oh and not get injuries in game.

 

[Mondyboy]

Did Harry pinch hit in the ruck in his other games?


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[TooBlue14]

It's actually not a bad team on paper...

Just need the guys to be fit and full of run, committed and coached well.

Oh and not get injuries in game.

I’d never wish injuries on anybody but it would be nice if saints played 2 down for a half+ like we tend to do week in week out. I’d take a Carlisle (concussion) and Steven (ankle) at 1/4 time please.

 

[Cowboyblues]

Cheers.

How would they determine that his heartbeat is too high? Comparisons with expected value +/- reasonable variance?

I was just excited to know one of our players had any heartbeat during last weeks floggin

 

[F_therest]

4 slow players out (2 above 195 cm) + Lang for 5 fast players (1 above 195 cm). This is how you play Etihad. Bring the pressure boys.

Not hard to see why we got smashed last week...ridiculously slow team.

Kreuzer, Phillips, Silvagni, Rowe, weitering, Cripps, Kennedy, Graham, Wright. For smalls lamb and Thomas aren't that quick either.

Much better this week.

 

[Blue Flame]

I'm going to use that word 'lethality' !! Can we say he has plethora of lethality ?

Andy, do you know what is a plethora?

 

[Mr_Plow]

Cheers.

How would they determine that his heartbeat is too high? Comparisons with expected value +/- reasonable variance?

Either by manual palpation of the radial artery at the wrist, or with one of these bad boys:

I'm pretty sure the club docs would have one handy.

Elevated heart rate for an adult is generically defined as persistently > 100bpm. You are right in that most of these parameters (like blood pressure) have been established through research using confidence intervals and bell-curves and all that jazz that I have now forgotten.

 

[Mr_Plow]

Are you in the medical profession Mr_Plow ? Sounds very Doctorish.

He's our resident doctor

3/4 a doctor, 1/6 a Carlton tragic and 1/12 a weekly MC critic.

 

[btdg]

Good luck to Matt Shaw, the most perplexing recruit in Carlton history. Clearly we saw something worthwhile in him.

My guess is we have been saving him up for exactly this moment. Our new secret weapon...

 

[Schrempfian]

3/4 a doctor, 1/6 a Carlton tragic and 1/12 a weekly MC critic.

Name change to Dr Plow on the cards?

 

[Mr_Plow]

Name change to Dr Plow on the cards?

I am faithful to both Lachie and Homer, they will not be forsaken.

 

[El Topo]

Hey guys was wondering whether Murphy looks fully fit or is still a bit affected by injuries? and is he playing more of a wing/outside mid role?

Outside mid, and a bit of half back. He'll be the link with Cripps/ECurnow/Kennedy/Dow as the ballwinners.

 

[mediumsizered]

11/22 will be 21 or under tomorrow night

This is the figure which should be looked at when comparing selected teams, not average age or average games as these numbers can be skewed by a couple of outliers e.g. Simpson & Murphy.

For most games this season we have been fielding more players in the 21 & under age group than our opponents. I can't imagine the media picking up on this though.

 

[Bronze]

Polson very fortunate. I suppose 5 changes is enough for one week.