Agree. Dow had 2 shots on goal. Yes he stuffed them up. But he managed to get into a position to take those shots in the first place. Gibbons...just an unmemorable game all around. Lots of footage of him trailing behind his opponent and just not doing much at all even though disposal numbers were the same as Dow.
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I’m thinking his height is probably the main issue as to why he doesn’t get a crack in the guts.Hes got a solid build,has speed and moves well.Whilst not flashy could definetly hold his own.Hes got a tank so there shouldn’t be any issue there and can kick a goal.Would offer more than say a Dow at this stage whose kicking skills are horrendous for a footballer in the system now for 3 years.
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Gibbons Overrated a top up player not best 22....does not perform against top sides
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Where would you rather develop him?
Speed? No. If he had elite pace, that would be a weapon, and I would have a different opinion.
It's not just height, it's weight as well (as listed Dow has 8kg on him).
If we're comparing the Dow and Gibbons, then Dow has the burst, more upside, and is 4 years younger. But I think neither would be in our team if Charlie, Harry and Eddie were fit. And on Thursday night's showing, Gibbons offered less
Not understanding where you are going with this Sramos
You asked for a comparison and I gave you one, then all you want to do is refute it, yet offer no alternative
We all get it, you and a few others don't rate Gibbons, clearly Teague and others here do rate hin
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There is absolutely no chance Dow gets dropped. Just because he has a few deficiencies club ain’t going to drop him. He is still young and in his development phase and has stacks of potential. Kicking is his main issue right now. Fix his kicking and he would have scored 2 goals and we would not be debating this right now.
I asked for a comparison of a player with similar size, pace and skill (and I meant current).
McGlynn didn't have similar pace to Gibbons. He was a better kick too.
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Happy to develop him in the team as a midfielder. He doesn't know what he's doing as a forward, so he's having minimal impact which is hurting his already shaky confidence.
There's no way he's best 22 as a forward and the best 22 should be the best 22 players. We're past the stage of gifting games to kids because of their high draft pick number.
Firstly, there’s a difference between best 22, and best 22 available. And as poor as he was on Thursday, he wasn’t even our worst forward.
Do you have a comparison? Still not seeing the point
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I'm assuming you're talking about gibbons. No gibbons wasn't great either, but I have confidence that he'll at least convert goal scoring chances when they come his way. He's also got a better tank and better footy smarts than dow.
Obviously dow has upside and the fact that there's no VFL makes dropping him sort of pointless as this experience is better than the nothing he would otherwise get if dropped. But i think we'd be a better side with kennedy as forward now (particularly now we're missing so many goal kickers)
No, I don’t have a comparison, which is exactly the point. I don’t think there is an AFL level midfielder of Gibbons’ size, who doesn’t have elite pace or disposal. Which is why I don’t think he is an AFL level mid, even though he is a great mid at VFL level.
If he’s going to play AFL, it will be as a half forward.
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imagine if we had an arrow and a stamos on match committee? we'd never pick a team...........
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Genuinely excited to see this kid play, just let him of the leash and let's see the running and tackling machine he is.
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couldn't agree more - but I will - I agree so more...........
Did I not say HHF/Mid?
But I see now what angle you are going with here. This is guys at the same height, +/- an inch. Some would be considered better players, some not. Some are mids, some flankers
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I'd still be debating why his defensive efforts are appalling...he also shirked a few times Thursday night... worrying signs
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Dow and Gibbons play as forwards, and surprise surprise they have little impact. They are midfielders plain and simple. It's hard to judge them on a role that is foreign to them.
If there is no role for them in the midfield maybe we should play someone like Honey who plays that role.
If there is no role for them in the midfield maybe we should play someone like Honey who plays that role.
I was questioning the ‘mid’ part. And it’s not just height, it’s size.
So of all the names you listed, who is a successful mid, who is has similar (or worse) pace and disposal? Or even a hff?
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There is every Possibility this game won't go ahead and all games cancelled after this weekend.
ScoMo says all non-essential travel should be cancelled.
Said sport is non essential travel but won’t make the call on AFL and NRL.
ScoMo says all non-essential travel should be cancelled.
Said sport is non essential travel but won’t make the call on AFL and NRL.
Pick whoever you want Stamos, no one here will change your mind
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Come on guys ease off please.
It's getting very tiresome.
Every damn thread!
It's getting very tiresome.
Every damn thread!
We're always excited to see them play, until we seem them play.
I'll be all the more excited when players Dow, Setterfield and O'Brien settle down and show why we got them to the club.
Walsh is the exception for us, but just want to see our midfielders flourish
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