Preview Rnd 8 - Carlton v Western Bulldogs Sunday 9th May 3:20PM @ Marvel

[Kreuuuzeurns]

I reckon Gibbons spot is safe until one of Fisher or Martin become available.

If the opposition doesn’t put time into him he’ll get 20 and kick 2, if they do (which I suspect is happening this season) he drags attention away from Fog, Cuners, Owies etc.

Still did some good things on Sunday even though he wasn’t at his best.

 

[Jimmae]

OUT: McGovern (inj), Newnes, Gibbons, Dow (inj) Cottrell
IN: JSOS, Williams, Murphy, SPS, O'Brien

FB: Plowman Jones Stocker
HB: Docherty Weitering Saad
C: Walsh Cuningham Williams
HF: Fogarty Casboult Owies
FF: JSOS McKay Betts

R: Pittonet Cripps E.Curnow

Int: Murphy, Parks, O'Brien, SPS

EMG: TDK, Newman, Cottrell, Newnes

I don't think TDK is right to go just yet, and Casboult seems to be recovering from his knee issues enough to prevent him being rushed into the team. Either way, our issues lie further up the ground, particularly with running power, skill by foot and ability at centre bounce stoppage setups.

Walsh had a great game overall, but he was a hinderence at the centre bounce. Smart, hard working footballer, but gets repeatedly exposed by the speed/strength mix every team in the competition will tend to put in there (as we also should). It's better that he sits on the wing in these situations, as it allows his read and timing to come to the fore in creating that next option. Note that I'm not suggesting he shouldn't see looks when the opposition make-up suits him, nor that he should sit on the outer at general stoppages, this is about the centre bounce setups.

SPS should never have been dropped, and he showed why on Sunday. So long as O'Brien is able to put in 80% game time in a wing role, we should now be playing him at AFL level, and it's ludicrous that we're watching Newnes and Cottrell increasingly become even more ineffective as the consequences of the rule changes are figured out by the competition.

Betts vs Gibbons is a reasonable close call, but Betts has safer hands, particularly leading up to the ball.

Williams and JSOS are self explanatory, while I prefer the value Murphy brings given the other changes.

Could be a potentially exciting week in the VFL too with Carroll set to resume, and possibly Kemp as well.

 

[Curnivore]

10 games out of old Kruez would have been handy this year.

He’d be worth the rookie cash for the year if he just played this week alone!

 

[Curnivore]

I reckon Gibbons spot is safe until one of Fisher or Martin become available.

If the opposition doesn’t put time into him he’ll get 20 and kick 2, if they do (which I suspect is happening this season) he drags attention away from Fog, Cuners, Owies etc.

Still did some good things on Sunday even though he wasn’t at his best.

He and Murphy are interchangeable. Have no issue dropping Gibbons for Murphy so long as Murphy is held to the same standards as Gibbo

 

[thebluenewdeal]

I love Ed and the way he goes about it but I think if he doesn’t have a tagging role then he actually hurts us defensively. I would put him on macrae this week I reckon. He’s gotten a lot better. Would love to see Cripps, Walsh and Cunners play majority midfield time with Ed tagging and SPS peeling out of the fwd line. All can get 25+ Possessions and I think it’s a fairly balanced group. It looked good against * when it was being used and you can change up the mix with Fog & Gibbo up fwd. The most important thing for us is to not let this doggies group get clean entry into their fwd 50. We do that. We win.

 

[AlecDuncan]

Not the only one....but was better on Sunday compared to the previous 2 weeks.

After effects of that whack to the noggin? Must have passed the concussion test, but affected just the same.

 

[Arr0w]

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Preview - Rnd 8 - Carlton v Western Bulldogs Sunday 9th May 3:20PM @ Marvel

Form line: Dogs have only suffered the one loss, last week against the Tigers, while we have won 3 of our last 5 and weren't blown away in those 2 losses H2H: Recently, last 3 games, we have matched up well against the Dogs. A 3 point loss, but with a couple of convincing wins, 44 and 52...

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[juzz88]

I think not bad but I still think CAS is a better useless forward than Pitto is a useless forward. so DK will replace Pitto before CAS

Not even sure that's true in 2021. Cas looks seriously cooked. And Pitto isn't the worst set shot we've had in the ruck, not by a long shot.

Problem is, TDK isn't physically ready to take over the #1 ruck spot this week (I assume), so it's a moot point.

 

[Blue Chip Pass]

No doubt you have all seen the article in the Sun re: Trade Targets for next year. SPS & Cunners are included in the list.
Please please MC & Teague, give these guys more time in the Midfield. I reckon both these guys could really hit their straps and form part of agreat midfield brigade with Cripps, Walsh & Curnow. And Dow when he's back.
They are both suited for midfield for different reasons. They give us something different.
Hope JSOS & Williams ready for return.
Not sure if TDK & Newman are ready.
This match is going to be a beauty. A win would really top off a perfect 2 weeks.

 

[Zlatan]

We have a chance of winning if our forwards and backline are in form.

More often than not, this comes down to the midfield; crap entries into the F50 means the forwards can’t score, too many easy entries and the defence won’t hold up.

 

[Brackets]

Walsh and Cunners linked up so well together against the Bombers. Completely gelled and had confidence in each other.

I'll be interested to see if they look to target each other here. Could be such an elite partnership.

 

[Blue and Silver]

This game shapes up as a midfield shoot-out.

Dogs win on the back of high possession to efficient inside 50's.

If we beat them at the source, and we are one of the few teams with the inside power to, then we can force them to switch things up.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

We have a chance of winning if our forwards and backline are in form.

I honestly believe we have one of the better back 7 groups in the comp. To concede the amount of I50s we do, and considering the quality of ball coming in, we do well to not get belted every other week.

 

[gandaal]

What's likely to happen:

Out: McGovern
In: Williams

What I want to happen:
Out: McGovern (inj), Gibbons, Newnes
In: Williams, SPS, O'Brien

 

[El Topo]

so are we all resigned to you-know-who coming back in this week?

 

[NavySteel]

Walsh and Cunners linked up so well together against the Bombers. Completely gelled and had confidence in each other.

I'll be interested to see if they look to target each other here. Could be such an elite partnership.

Looked delicious out of the centre as well. A couple of slick clearances for Cuners, and absolute domination by Walshy.

 

[FRUMPY]

so are we all resigned to you-know-who coming back in this week?

wonder if they'll stick their neck on the line and name him sub

 

[Brezsa]

I won’t get into selection, as long always will be a random injury pop up.

But the key is going to be the defence and our transition into the forward line. We are going to lose in the middle, (clearances etc) so our key will be the ability to get the ball back, then successfully transition the ball through the middle and to the forwards (where with their inability to defend tall forwards) we will have an advantage.

Speed out of the backline and through the middle will be important so we can get cleaner entries with speed to prevent the Dogs ability to double team (Saad, Doc, SPS, Newnes, Fog etc)

If we can do that, then find a way to set up the centreline wall (Weitering, Jones, Parks) then we will go a good way to being able to win.

We’ve shown the last 3 matches against them that this game plan works and we match up well on them, so the players should know what needs to be done and confident they can do it.

 

[Brackets]

so are we all resigned to you-know-who coming back in this week?

How has this place gone from treating a club legend like the antichrist.

He may be on his last legs but he is far from worthless.

 

[Weiterbot23]

M

Murphy can be the sub

Actually not a bad idea, can carry him to 300

 

[El Topo]

How has this place gone from treating a club legend like the antichrist.

He may be on his last legs but he is far from worthless.

Wouldn't be the first career to end on a sour note after going a year too long

 

[Benaly28]

I won’t get into selection, as long always will be a random injury pop up.

But the key is going to be the defence and our transition into the forward line. We are going to lose in the middle, (clearances etc) so our key will be the ability to get the ball back, then successfully transition the ball through the middle and to the forwards (where with their inability to defend tall forwards) we will have an advantage.

Speed out of the backline and through the middle will be important so we can get cleaner entries with speed to prevent the Dogs ability to double team (Saad, Doc, SPS, Newnes, Fog etc)

If we can do that, then find a way to set up the centreline wall (Weitering, Jones, Parks) then we will go a good way to being able to win.

We’ve shown the last 3 matches against them that this game plan works and we match up well on them, so the players should know what needs to be done and confident they can do it.

You mean the late Thursday nighter with an injury that wasn’t mentioned on Tuesday report.Happen every week.


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[Zlatan]

so are we all resigned to you-know-who coming back in this week?

The only case you could even contemplate making for this is Gibbons, but it would still be weak.

I’m wrapped that Owies put in the performance he did, cause even our MC wouldn’t be able to drop him after 3 goals.

 

[Juddrockz]

Walsh and Cunners linked up so well together against the Bombers. Completely gelled and had confidence in each other.

I'll be interested to see if they look to target each other here. Could be such an elite partnership.

On the smaller,slippery ground may be a bit more difficult.
Long stops required this week to keep their footing!

 

[Stephene]

Given McGovern is out the only changes I can see are Jack (for McGovern) and SPS in...Assuming Dow's eye is good and no concussion issue he'd be in...he was doing well up till the poke....Williams, if fit and....Murphy the medical sub.....does that add up to 22