Autopsy Roast & Toast Round 23 vs Brisbane, changes for Qualifying Final vs Brisbane

who was in the best for the Tigers vs Brisbane

  • David Astbury

    Votes: 8 2.9%
  • Nathan Broad

    Votes: 15 5.5%
  • Dylan Grimes

    Votes: 83 30.5%
  • Bachar Houli

    Votes: 109 40.1%
  • Nick Vlastuin

    Votes: 244 89.7%
  • Jayden Short

    Votes: 6 2.2%
  • Brandon Ellis

    Votes: 5 1.8%
  • Dion Prestia

    Votes: 192 70.6%
  • Josh Caddy

    Votes: 33 12.1%
  • Daniel Rioli

    Votes: 14 5.1%
  • Trent Cotchin

    Votes: 2 0.7%
  • Kane Lambert

    Votes: 22 8.1%
  • Shai Bolton

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • Tom Lynch

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Jack Riewoldt

    Votes: 129 47.4%
  • Ivan Soldo

    Votes: 58 21.3%
  • Shane Edwards

    Votes: 33 12.1%
  • Dustin Martin

    Votes: 209 76.8%
  • Jason Castagna

    Votes: 5 1.8%
  • Liam Baker

    Votes: 67 24.6%
  • Jack Graham

    Votes: 5 1.8%
  • Noah Balta

    Votes: 3 1.1%

  • Total voters
    272
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one eyedtiger

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Does nank and soldo work? Is it a risk to try it in a QF? This is what worries me.
It's a good question and something that they will consider heading into the finals.
I think Soldo has been good enough to not be dropped but obviously the issue is that both he and Nank are predominately ruckman. Nank is a little more flexible, being more athletic but I'm not sure we're willing to play Jack, Lynch and Nank for large spells in the forward line together. I say Nank because I don't think Soldo offers much as a forward.

They may say to Nank, you've missed a lot of footy we have to go with the match hardened options, with Balta/Chol battling it out for the number 2 ruck spot. Although if Toby is fit it's hard to see the MC leaving him out
 

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Wouldn’t worry much about Neale but pay closer attention to McCluggage who was damaging.

Probably no change except to stop mucking around with it so much. I get we handball but sometimes we just need to get it in long to our big guys.

Tom Lynch didn’t have his best game.

They can’t handle Jack and Tom.

Vlaustin was BoG for mine.

Classic Richmond belt them and then stop.

Watch the commentators write off the first quarter like it wasn’t a part of the game and say how good the lions were. Some costly turnovers overusing on the half back flank.
******* short needs to go. Panic merchant of the highest order.
 

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I don’t think Brisbane can take much away from that loss. They smashed us in the middle, dominated our forwards and still lost by 4 goals.

They’ve got two weeks to figure out how to effectively enter our back half (good luck). And we’ve got two weeks to get our small forwards firing and applying pressure (it’s finals, it comes with the territory).
 

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What I learnt is that the Lions are the real deal and will be no easy beats come finals. They finished on top for a reason - whatever anyone thinks of their softer draw they still won a tonne of impressive games leading up to it (Port, GWS on the road and the Cats/Dogs at home recently) I wasn't really a believer but after today they are definitely going to contend.

The biggest problem they pose to us is that they can match us in tackling intensity and pressure, they love the contest just as much as us and I reckon they've taken a leaf out our book over recent years. I am concerned about Short/Castagna/Broad and these types over there in high intensity, pressure games against quality opponents. We'll need to be at our best.
Don't put Broad in that category, he is/was great today. The other 2 I agree. Broad covered the other 2 defenders brilliantly today, hard and tough.
 

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Great way to finish a home and away season, our most enjoyable and satisfying this century for mine. About 10-11 weeks ago I noticed the bookies had us out to 13/1 for the flag and thought they were being a tad generous.

Great to have Cotch back, both he and Dusty are looking really sharp and focused, all the mids look fit and set to hold their own over the next month, even the immortal Duncan Kellaway would struggle to prevent Prestia getting leather poisoning lately.

Soldo’s killing it, get on him for the Norm Smith at 1000/1 the rate he’s improving game to game. :moustache:;)

Defence is just beautiful to watch, some of Vlaustin’s recent games have been virtually flawless and he was BOG again today for mine. He didn’t stand out the most, but there’s no more important part of the ground to have a bloke just turning everything he goes near to gold. Surely he’ll go close in the JD this year and deserves AA along with half our backline.

Liked Baker’s game today and recently, he’s got a lot of football smarts and he’ll overcome his size and play a lot of games I suspect.

Forward line is leaking more than we’d like but the form of the big boys is very heartening, you feel either or both of them are on the verge of ripping a game apart at the right time of year.

Looking forward to the big one in a fortnight, the GABBA and the Lions are probably as good as it gets for an away final. It will be as close to neutral a crowd as we could hope for and we match up well against them.

I’m glad they’ll take heart out of today’s performance because it’s going to make the shock of finals intensity all the more potent when we hit them with it in a fortnight.

Finally, I’m sure we’ve put a bit of work into it already, but I think it’s long past time we hit Georgie with a more unique set shot goal kicking intervention.

Light up the G at midnight a dozen times over the next month, get David Cloke, Richo and Georgie down there at the 25m mark with a mini skip full of balls and just offend the Football Gods relentlessly night after night until they offer us a bargain.

That they will grant our dearly beloved Georgie the ability to kick every set shot at least as well as the best from the average 10 year old in any given crowd he plays in front of.

You know it could well be worth half a dozen goals over the next month, make it happen Richmond!

Love ya Georgie, keep trying mate. Have you tried aiming 20m left of the left point post and going the barrel? What about a deliberate kick at the bread basket of the bloke on the mark and then you play on and slot it like a gun?

Just askin’...

Go the mighty Tigers, all up I’m feeling as confident as possible going into the finals raffle. It will take something freakish to beat us and odds are against that happening two years running.
 

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Only team that really worries me is the Dogs, and we will probably get them if we can’t do the Lions in Brissie. Dogs are looking sharp, on form and timing their run to perfection. They still have a squad full of flag winners (mind you, no Boyd to play the game of his life this time, although they do have Naughton). They will push us if we play them
 

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I didn’t really know who to look for with Neal, but didn’t notice him. Was that one of the most ineffectual 50 disposal games?
according to smats - 4 players from 4 teams had 35 or more possessions or more, yes 4 only, out of 18 teams. rightly or wrongly lets call them 'ball hogs'....surprise surprise, all 4 teams lost by lots.
 

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All our smaller forwards needs some serious set shot goal kicking practice. Bolton needs to aim at the left point post, all his kicks go right. George needs to shut his f***g eyes, can't do any worse and Rioli, can't remember the last time he converted a set shot. Unless they improve it could cost us a finals win.
Your forgetting Lambert. He plays pretty much as a small forward and nails everything. Thank goodness for Lambo
 

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It seemed to me from Damien's comments Nank won't be playing this year.
Adductor is serious, would be excruciating pain flexing in ruck contests.
Brisbane is most effective and dangerous when they move the ball along the skinny side flank like they did in the 3Q.
They especially skirt the boundary at the Gabba.
Something we must watch out for.
Thought Bolton was poor but would give one more chance.
Don't really see pressing need for any changes.
Balta is faster than Chol so I would keep the status quo.
 
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What I learnt is that the Lions are the real deal and will be no easy beats come finals. They finished on top for a reason - whatever anyone thinks of their softer draw they still won a tonne of impressive games leading up to it (Port, GWS on the road and the Cats/Dogs at home recently) I wasn't really a believer but after today they are definitely going to contend.

The biggest problem they pose to us is that they can match us in tackling intensity and pressure, they love the contest just as much as us and I reckon they've taken a leaf out our book over recent years. I am concerned about Short/Castagna/Broad and these types over there in high intensity, pressure games against quality opponents. We'll need to be at our best.
Yeah I agree. Although we won comfortably, Brisbane were probably our toughest opponent including West Coast in the winning stretch. We had our lowest inside 50s count since Round 2 against Collingwood for a reason and they didn't even use the keepings off tactic like Collingwood to restrict us in this metric. We just struggled to get our repeat entries like we usually do.

Our small forwards seriously have to lift. They are the cornerstone in our style of play. If they're not contributing a whole lot to the scoreboard, then they need to tackle and put pressure inside 50. The three of them had 6 tackles between them and a combined score of 2 goals and 3 behinds yesterday. Not good enough.
 

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Didnt we end a huge losing streak versus geelong in the first final?

Brisbane can do the same..
Yes they can. The only difference is that it took us the experience of losing to our problem teams in Carlton (2013) and North Melbourne (2015) as the lower ranked sides before we finally defeated a problem team in Geelong in the first final. However, they can just bypass that phase so we need to be alert.
 
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