Autopsy Roast & Toast vs GWS rd17 & Changes for St Kilda rd18

Best Player vs GWS

  • Toby Nankervis

    Votes: 31 17.9%
  • Shane Edwards

    Votes: 37 21.4%
  • Dustin Martin

    Votes: 88 50.9%
  • Callum Moore

    Votes: 4 2.3%
  • Jack Riewoldt

    Votes: 51 29.5%
  • Josh Caddy

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Daniel Rioli

    Votes: 114 65.9%
  • Kane Lambert

    Votes: 40 23.1%
  • Jason Castagna

    Votes: 10 5.8%
  • Shaun Grigg

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Trent Cotchin

    Votes: 10 5.8%
  • Dion Prestia

    Votes: 99 57.2%
  • Jayden Short

    Votes: 75 43.4%
  • Nick Vlastuin

    Votes: 5 2.9%
  • Bachar Houli

    Votes: 5 2.9%
  • David Astbury

    Votes: 11 6.4%
  • Alex Rance

    Votes: 58 33.5%
  • Dylan Grimes

    Votes: 73 42.2%
  • Jack Higgins

    Votes: 6 3.5%
  • Brandon Ellis

    Votes: 19 11.0%
  • Shai Bolton

    Votes: 5 2.9%
  • Corey Ellis

    Votes: 7 4.0%

  • Total voters
    173
  • Poll closed .

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Hate playing the saints, never confident against this mob especially at mickey mouse stadium. Should get the win but will be a frustrating s**t fight I think. They were only playing Carlton but they did have 40 scoring shots so they're dangerous around goal and can't be taken lightly.

To be honest even a Amature side would have give more effort then blues in second half.Listening to Finey he said yeah we won,but wasn't super impressed with win.

I just want to bank the 4 points.
Have to come out and put them away not give them a chance and keep them in game were everybody's gf.Expecting a big response from our seniors to.Get back to basics simple footy pressure,tackling and work rate.Must put a tag on Gresham who has killed us last 2 games.
 

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Hate playing the saints, never confident against this mob especially at mickey mouse stadium. Should get the win but will be a frustrating s**t fight I think. They were only playing Carlton but they did have 40 scoring shots so they're dangerous around goal and can't be taken lightly.


Yep I think we will lose fri .
 
I like Higgins and he has a bright future, but I don't think he is doing enough to justify his spot in the starting 22! He is getting a game week in week out, mostly because he is well liked by the coach and because of his fun and humorous 'speeches' during the half time breaks! He has played some good games, but is very hot and cold, and I think there are others ahead of him at this point!
 
I like Higgins and he has a bright future, but I don't think he is doing enough to justify his spot in the starting 22! He is getting a game week in week out, mostly because he is well liked by the coach and because of his fun and humorous 'speeches' during the half time breaks! He has played some good games, but is very hot and cold, and I think there are others ahead of him at this point!

Nah, is the least of our concerns imo.

Tracking beautifully and has actually become a decent piece in the midfield, didnt have his best game game against GWS but was fantastic in the previous two.

Was equal 1st in clearances against GWS for us with Dusty.
 

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Caddy to get back into form and kick another 6?

Need a floater to play on carlisle i feel. Although moore would run rings around him when the ball comes to ground.
 
Danger game. We need a strong showing before we hit a form slump
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I like Higgins and he has a bright future, but I don't think he is doing enough to justify his spot in the starting 22! He is getting a game week in week out, mostly because he is well liked by the coach and because of his fun and humorous 'speeches' during the half time breaks! He has played some good games, but is very hot and cold, and I think there are others ahead of him at this point!
i think the issue is we cant carry him, moore, bolton and ellis at the same time.
townsend for moore
lloyd for bolton
kmac for ellis (extra height down back that we are missing since both kmac AND broad are missing from the premiership team)
higgins to butlers 80% forward role

profit
 
if we turn up with Bolton, Moore, Higgins, Ellis.C and Ellis.B in the same side we will struggle to beat anyone.

We can carry a few but not all.

Moore, C.Ellis and Bolton should all make way

Townsend in for Moore
Stengle in for Bolton
Lloyd back into the side for Ellis.C

b. Grimes Astbury Short
h. Houli Rance Vlastuin
c. Grigg Martin Edward's
h. Lambert Caddy Rioli
f. Stengle Jack Costanza
r. Nank Cotchin Prestia
I. Higgins Ellis.B Lloyd Townsend
 
Anyway back on topic .As most posters are saying outs for this week should be Bolton and CEllis I sincerely agree with them.
On Bolton as I discussed with a few blokes today he shouldn’t be given another game as his tank is still 1:76 Marklin size. He has a highlight reel that is magnificent, but they’re exhibits compiled from many games. He just isn’t physically ready for AFL footy and needs to be built up in the twos. Remember he was almost a year younger than most in his draft so he’s physically just not strong enough to run out an AFL quarter let alone a game.
I was really concerned about him playing based on my vfl observations which were quiet for long patches with magic bursts and moments. He did string an excellent second half against Box Hill in the midfield where he replaced CEllis in that spot, but he did zip in the first half. The hardest I’ve seen him run is when he ran 60m to the bench at Victoria Park after kicking a miraculous goal . He needs time and I wouldn’t be paying anymore than 150k for him next year bc he’s got some hard work to do to get his game to the standard. No way should he be playing AFL games this year . He’s a tremendous talent with a body severely in need of maturation and hard work.
CEllis on the other hand was dominating afl games on the surface , but his games against the teams with better midfields he was placed back to the hbl . Those being Williamstown and BoxHill where his heat map would have resembled a banana on the boundary line from hb to the wing.
VFL form is really confusing this year as
most sides are really poor so you really need to look at players carefully in their roles and other things they’re bringing into their game. CEllis plays his football with no intensity or heat and actually gets lost in spectating. His best games in the midfield were when he had blokes dish easy balls out to him as he in VFL is lucky enough to be afforded time and space , but he still fails physically to win his own ball. He is an outside player as outside could ever be and he wants an easy ball based on a turnover.
He is caught out at AFL and it looks bloody ugly bc he’s slower than treacle on a frosty Winter morning.
Speed is his biggest killer and add a lack of confidence with his introverted nature he becomes an eyesore and a liability. Just cannot play again in the ones and if he was delisted it wouldn’t even be noticed. Just no.
We’re now at the business end of the season so we need to add that hard edge to the side , so Kmac or Townsend should not be playing vfl before the two mentioned already. Even Lloyd would have offered more as we know although he’s not great , but he has the tank and
ability to play multiple roles. Stengel l have observed all year and he has actually performed his role diligently where he could perform to the standard
above. He is like an octopus when he tackles and chases and runs players down with pressure acts. He’s a smart footballer and ahead on Bolton bc of fitness and better work ethics. Oh and he can kick a goal even if he’s fatigued in a last quarter.

Strongly agree about Towner and Kmac being slotted back in before finals. Not the most skilled but big and strong and imposing in the clinches. Both suit our style perfectly. I like that Towner takes the best intercept defender and I like Kmac patrolling a wing and chopping out in defence. Our bottom six players being in form last year helped enormously.
 
You know what the brains trust should be doing is playing a second ruck, we need another tall to give Nankervis a break or two ( the guys been playing is guts out) and also if he gets injured we will have someone who is already had some afl game time to boot. Just saying. Grigg is looking a little on the slow side now days, maybe it’s because we are mostly pretty speedy.

This sounds like a post from July 2017.
 
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