Robert Walls: get out of the commentary box

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I also watched On the Couch last night, and I too became frustrated by Robert's Walls' comments.

"They took a risk, it didn't work, and now they are an aging side."

"They're an old side"

"Wayne Carey has been dissapointing. He's not the player he once was."

I am really tired of these conversation. Robert, we've already blooded 4 new players this year! Couldn't you at least comment on Hentschel's performances, or Jericho's debut?

Even when Gerald Healy asked him about their improvement, Walls just said: "Hmmm...yeah...Hawthorn have been disappointing. "

Robert, can't you just say one good thing about the club, or give one piece of advice, without mentioning 'Carey' or the world 'old'.???

:rolleyes:
 

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Robert Walls is the reason why I DO NOT watch 'On the Couch'. I refuse to treat any show seriously that has this ****er on it (which is why I dread channel 10 doing Crows matches, and mainly watch the Fox Footy games). Hopefully one day channel 10 will be able to afford decent commentators (saves wasting electricity on having a radio and television on at the same time).

I watched a replay of the Crows v St. Kilda match last night, and Walls did not have a clue what was going on at the game. He had absolutely no idea why the crowd was going berzerk at the umpires late in the 2nd term when the umps missed 2 blatant Crows frees resulting in a St. Kilda goal. All he could do was brag about how great a job St. Kilda did in producing a late goal!

Walls is one of the biggest hypocrites in the AFL media today. With his coaching record (sacked at Brisbane AND Richmond), I don't understand why anyone would want to take him seriously. I also believe Walls has this bitterness towards the Crows because it was Adelaide's 137-point demolition of Richmond in 1997 that resulted in his sacking at Richmond. Honestly, Walls needs to grow up and face the facts that he was a crap coach and a crapper commentator!
 

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#53
Originally posted by brucetiki


Walls is one of the biggest hypocrites in the AFL media today. With his coaching record (sacked at Brisbane AND Richmond), I don't understand why anyone would want to take him seriously. I also believe Walls has this bitterness towards the Crows because it was Adelaide's 137-point demolition of Richmond in 1997 that resulted in his sacking at Richmond. Honestly, Walls needs to grow up and face the facts that he was a crap coach and a crapper commentator!
Say you want but he was not a crap coach, he did very well at Brisbane with what they had, and with an ounce of luck were flag contenders in 1996. he won a flag with Carlton.

he was a super player and a good coach, now he's paid to have opinions, and not all of them are thought through.
 

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#54
Originally posted by Crow-mosone
Say you want but he was not a crap coach, he did very well at Brisbane with what they had, and with an ounce of luck were flag contenders in 1996.
Norethy was coaching Brisbane in 1996.
 

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lol has anyone read his latest article in realfooty?

his advice to coaches under the pump is:
'Read the work of journalists you respect, forget the rest.'

I couldn't help but think, so in other words ignore Walls.
 
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There are many uncertanties in life.

One thing I am certain about however is that R. Walls hates non-
Victorian teams especially the Crows.

People talk about Eddie being biased in his commentating but Walls is about 173,233 times worse.
 
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I wrote on another Website this quote: "Opinions are like A$$holes, We all have one" And for some, theirs are bigger than anothers. The real crime here is Robert Walls gets paid to give his!! By our ranting he is basically achieving what he is setting out to do, rile up a few people with an opinion. He has been dumped twice as a coach, funnily enough each time was after playing the AFC.
I think we are sometimes WAY too sensetive to commentators from interstate, but Walls does make the hairs on the back my neck stand up! So I say we turn him down, and listen to the ABC, 5AA or MMM.
Just my Opinion!!
GFG
PS While on this subject, whats up Chris McDemmots Backside? Hasn't had a complimentary thing to say about the Crows unless its about Ladhams or Burton!!:confused: :confused:
 

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#59
Originally posted by Crow-mosone
my bad.
What you say is still valid. Walls took the Brisbane Football Club from a laughing stock to competitive for the first time in their history. He piloted them to the 1995 Finals Series where they were stopped by an invincible Carlton side on the MCG (1 vs 8) by only 13 points.

The foundations of a winning culture and a strong onfield squad were laid by Walls who took the challenge of the Bears on when no-one else worth their salt would.
 
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#60
Originally posted by dyertribe
What you say is still valid. Walls took the Brisbane Football Club from a laughing stock to competitive for the first time in their history. He piloted them to the 1995 Finals Series where they were stopped by an invincible Carlton side on the MCG (1 vs 8) by only 13 points.

The foundations of a winning culture and a strong onfield squad were laid by Walls who took the challenge of the Bears on when no-one else worth their salt would.
Erm, my recollection of the Bears in 95 was a bit different.
It wasn't until Walls made public he was quitting at the end of the year that the Bears ever came good. They won 6 of their last 7 or 8 AFTER the announcement to eventually sneak into the 8 with a 10-12 record.

Prior to the announcement they were 14th, only above St Kilda and Fitzroy.

Make of that what you will.
 

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#61
Originally posted by naughty monkey
Erm, my recollection of the Bears in 95 was a bit different.
It wasn't until Walls made public he was quitting at the end of the year that the Bears ever came good. They won 6 of their last 7 or 8 after the announcement to eventually sneak into the 8 with a 10-12 record.

Make of that what you will.
And the 9 wins he led them to the year before, after years bringing only 3, 4 and 4 victories?
 

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#62
Originally posted by dyertribe
And the 9 wins he led them to the year before, after years bringing only 3, 4 and 4 victories?
still finished 12th out of 15.

I'm not saying Walls wasn't a small factor in turning Brisbane around, but there were other factors involved in this too. And most of the credit due to a coach should go to Northey.

Walls was not a great coach, and imo he wasn't even a good coach.
 

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Originally posted by dyertribe
What you say is still valid. Walls took the Brisbane Football Club from a laughing stock to competitive for the first time in their history. He piloted them to the 1995 Finals Series where they were stopped by an invincible Carlton side on the MCG (1 vs 8) by only 13 points.
Oh yeah that would be the year he publicly went on air to berate the crows saying they were soft and lacked leadership.

Of course, a couple of years later, his Richmond side got absolutely caned by 137 points, he was sacked, and the Crows went on to win the premiership. Ouch!
 

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#66
Originally posted by jmorg1
Oh yeah that would be the year he publicly went on air to berate the crows saying they were soft and lacked leadership.
In 1995 we were soft and lacked leadership.

Two years is a long time in footy - I was at that game in 1997, Darren Jarman gave a big taste of what was to come in September. ;)
 

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#67
Originally posted by naughty monkey
still finished 12th out of 15.

I'm not saying Walls wasn't a small factor in turning Brisbane around, but there were other factors involved in this too. And most of the credit due to a coach should go to Northey.

Walls was not a great coach, and imo he wasn't even a good coach.
Most consider Northey (who was also a good coach, match day only ala eade), to have greatly failed at Brisbane.

you are entitled to your opinion, but the facts don't stack up.

1. he coached a great carlton unit in 1987 over an equally great and dominant hawthorn team.
2. he certainly turned around the culture in Brisbane
3. when he left Brisbane, Richmond pounced.

Now really, be serious. how many 'not even good coaches', convince 3 clubs to give them a go, and coach for over 10 years - let alone win a flag.

he may get up your nose as a commentator, but you can't rewrite history.
 

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#69
Originally posted by dyertribe
IIRC he also had a decent stint with the Royboys too circa 1980s.
1981 Fitzroy 4th
1982 Fitzroy 6th
1983 Fitzroy 4th
1984 Fitzroy 5th
1985 Fitzroy 9th
1986 Carlton Runners-Up
1987 Carlton Premiership
1988 Carlton 3rd
1989 Carlton 8th (sacked mid-season)
1990 No Coaching Position
1991 Brisbane 15th
1992 Brisbane 14th
1993 Brisbane 13th
1994 Brisbane 12th
1995 Brisbane 8th
1996 Richmond 9th
1997 Richmond 13th (sacked mid-season)

When all things are considered and his achievements are put into the correct perspective, that's a quality career if ever I've seen one.
 

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Originally posted by dyertribe
1981 Fitzroy 4th
1982 Fitzroy 6th
1983 Fitzroy 4th
1984 Fitzroy 5th
1985 Fitzroy 9th
1986 Carlton Runners-Up
1987 Carlton Premiership
1988 Carlton 3rd
1989 Carlton 8th (sacked mid-season)
1990 No Coaching Position
1991 Brisbane 15th
1992 Brisbane 14th
1993 Brisbane 13th
1994 Brisbane 12th
1995 Brisbane 8th
1996 Richmond 9th
1997 Richmond 13th (sacked mid-season)

When all things are considered and his achievements are put into the correct perspective, that's a quality career if ever I've seen one.
I think Ayresy's coaching career might stack up OK against that one. Apart from the premiership that is.

Got Gary's record DT??????
 

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Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I think Ayresy's coaching career might stack up OK against that one. Apart from the premiership that is.

Got Gary's record DT??????
1995 Geelong Runners-Up
1996 Geelong 7th
1997 Geelong 2nd
1998 Geelong 12th
1999 Geelong 11th
2000 Adelaide 11th
2001 Adelaide 8th
2002 Adelaide 3rd
2003 Adelaide 6th
2004 Adelaide 16th (after 4 rounds)
 

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#73
Originally posted by dyertribe
1995 Geelong Runners-Up
1996 Geelong 7th
1997 Geelong 2nd
1998 Geelong 12th
1999 Geelong 11th
2000 Adelaide 11th
2001 Adelaide 8th
2002 Adelaide 3rd
2003 Adelaide 6th
2004 Adelaide 16th (after 4 rounds)
Out of 9 full seasons he has made finals in 6 years. I don't think that a particularly bad record.

No one was ever going to beat Carlton in 95. His record is pretty good actually.

Come the end of the year it might be the case of "better the devil you know".
 

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#75
Originally posted by dyertribe
His inability to arrest Geelong's slide after their 2nd place and straight sets finals out in 1997 is rather alarming and could prove to be prophetic though...
You actually make a very valid point there. He nver really had to rebuild a side did he?

Have you got Terry Wallace's coaching record???????
 
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