Roger Federer is not the GOAT

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Not in dispute any more. 20 Grand Slams and oldest ever men's number #1.

Anything more is just icing on the cake.
 

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Xtreme yes we get your point. You raise it constantly. How about come up with some valid points and arguments as to why Serena or court are better tennis players?

How about you rate each stroke of the 3, as well as their movement, game sense, etc?
 

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Xtreme yes we get your point. You raise it constantly. How about come up with some valid points and arguments as to why Serena or court are better tennis players?
Simple really because they have more grand slams than Fedex :p

It's a valid argument because it's the truth!
 

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Simple really because they have more grand slams than Fedex :p

It's a valid argument because it's the truth!
Yet you also try to manufacturer arguments for other male players being better than Federer despite winning fewer Grand Slams. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Your twisted bitterness and jealously of the great Roger Federer has blinded you of being objective.
 

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Yet you also try to manufacturer arguments for other male players being better than Federer despite winning fewer Grand Slams. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Your twisted bitterness and jealously of the great Roger Federer has blinded you of being objective.
Not bitter or jealous

The simple fact is he's not the tennis goat because he isn't leading the grand slam count
 

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The guy is a freak but tbh he isnt playing at peak fed level atm yet most of the opposition just have no answers and no real idea how to beat him. Mentally there also pygmies, go behind and fly the white flag. Your never beating the greatest front runner ever with those attributes.
 

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If Federer was allowed to play in the woman's game as Rogena from the beginning, he would have over 40 GS titles right now.
He would win every slam he entered. No woman could beat Federer. Not even Serena. They wouldnt even get close.
 

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Not that I in any way shape or form agree with what Xtreme is saying, but a rivalry built over a decade comprising 40+ matches and many Slam finals holds far more significance than the above^ examples. They're frivolous comparisons.
 

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Take out nadals French open titles he only has 6 grand slams
Why would you ignore one Grand Slam?

Imagine if two of the Slams were played on clay instead of one.
Why do we have to start "imagining" anything?

Imaging we only played on clay. Imagine we only played on grass. Imagine you got extra points for hitting it between your legs. What are you talking about?

Why not simply look at players' records as they stand? That's the reality of what's happened and that's what counts.
 
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I get a tad board with his winning everything but I admire his overall achievement.. but seriously can't someone else win
without him..

the guy is just too nice and too slick and talented and well I guess I should just talk him up like I do because he is a Leeda... :D
 

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The guy is a freak but tbh he isnt playing at peak fed level atm yet most of the opposition just have no answers and no real idea how to beat him. Mentally there also pygmies, go behind and fly the white flag. Your never beating the greatest front runner ever with those attributes.
Don't be silly.

He's winning because the game has changed and 36-year-olds now have all the advantages. It can't possibly be because players 10 years younger have failed to launch. The game has changed. That explains everything. Just ask Nadal, Murray and Djokovic about how much easier it gets to play 25 tournaments each year after you turn 30. The game has changed and players who are 30+ have all the advantages now. Right, The City Boyz and Belnakor and Demosthenes?

This could be the biopic for Dimitrov or Nishikori or Raonic:

 

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He went four-and-a-half years without winning a major.
ok I am feeling very silly about this but the point is that time goes so quickly that it appears that he has done it all..
but the other point is that he made the semis or the quarters or even the lesser rounds.. time is fleeting and grabs you by the hand and
tells you where to go and even if he never won majors he would have done a great deal to maintain his standing in the whole scenario..
 

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Why would you ignore one Grand Slam?

Why do we have to start "imagining" anything?

Imaging we only played on clay. Imagine we only played on grass. Imagine you got extra points for hitting it between your legs. What are you talking about?

Why not simply look at players' records as they stand? That's the reality of what's happened and that's what counts.
That was the whole point of my post ya bellend. It's pointless to say things like 'taking out the French Open...' etc.

Wouldn't have thought that needed explaining but ah well.
 
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