Roger Federer is not the GOAT

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Williams sits second on the list of most major singles titles of all time — one behind Margaret Court (24) — and will likely go down as the greatest player of all time (GOAT), man or woman.
Turns out that I'm not the only one with the same view :p
 

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Turns out that I'm not the only one with the same view :p
Serena herself doesn't hold the same view:
Here she admits she'd be thrashed by Andy Murray 6-0 6-0 in 5-10 mins, that men's tennis is a completely different game and it would be embarrassing if she played in it.
 

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Serena herself doesn't hold the same view:
Here she admits she'd be thrashed by Andy Murray 6-0 6-0 in 5-10 mins, that men's tennis is a completely different game and it would be embarrassing if she played in it.
She played a guy who was ranked outside the top 200 and could hardly get a ball back.

She's the GOAT of the WTA but there's no such thing as being GOAT of both associations. Utter ridiculousness.
 

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Dimitrov for eg is smack bang in the middle of his peak, he shouldnt be getting shoved aside with ease if he is a genuine grand slam winner by fed like the other day. Thats the issue, players who are being talked about as contenders are nowhere near it while federer is around.
What bollocks. Federer is not Dimitrov's greatest obstacle. Dimitrov is his own worst enemy.

Fedski is beatable, Delpo troubles him and Raonic has beaten him at Wimbledon, shock horror. As has Berdych.
 

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No point continuing a discussion with an idiot.

Tennis is a sport of class, to which I daresay you don't quite cut the mustard, judging by your responses to the topic.

Good day.
Federer Grand Slams: 20
Serena Grand Slams: 23

Federer only needs to win 4 more to over take her, good luck :D
 

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Wake me up when he gets 24-25

Until then he has achieved nothing
It always puzzles me when talking "greatest of all time" people don't include doubles records. Wouldn't the greatest of all time be able to do it over both disciplines? Or in the case of mixed all 3?

It's disappointing that doubles tennis appears to have fallen by the wayside.
 

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I guess because Tennis is an individual game. So calling someone the GOAT means a lot because it's all on the one player.
It's only an individual game in one of the two disciplines though. Doubles is the other discipline and it's a team game.

Don't worry about me ;) I've always been frustrated doubles is seen as the "lesser" discipline.
 

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It's only an individual game in one of the two disciplines though. Doubles is the other discipline and it's a team game.

Don't worry about me ;) I've always been frustrated doubles is seen as the "lesser" discipline.
Well yeah but you cant bring doubles action into the discussion of the GOAT because it's a team game. I mean if Federer played doubles and his partner donks an easy volley into the net to lose the Wimbledon final, how is that Fed's fault. Or if he played with some scrub in doubles but he's so good they win anyways, does the scrub's standing in the game suddenly go up cos he is winning a lot of doubles tourneys.

Know what I mean.
 

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This thread has reached its lowest ebb if we are now including the discussion of doubles titles in the greatest player debate.
 

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Well yeah but you cant bring doubles action into the discussion of the GOAT because it's a team game. I mean if Federer played doubles and his partner donks an easy volley into the net to lose the Wimbledon final, how is that Fed's fault. Or if he played with some scrub in doubles but he's so good they win anyways, does the scrub's standing in the game suddenly go up cos he is winning a lot of doubles tourneys.

Know what I mean.
That is true.

Should we modify it to goat singles player?

:p
 

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