Rolling Ashes Squad Thread, now featuring Haddin XII v Hick XII beginning p. 147

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Broad and Archer to miss the Test for England? Interesting.
lol at the article claiming no Archer was a positive for Australia...That’s like saying England will be happy to see Starc sitting out!
 

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lol at the article claiming no Archer was a positive for Australia...That’s like saying England will be happy to see Starc sitting out!
Seeing Archer bowl with more consistency towards the end of the WC, I can't really see why he can't replicate his white ball form in Test matches. Much like Bumrah, he's full of tricks, and I could have seen him causing us some trouble.

Will be laughing in Broad is left out for Curran, but I doubt that will happen.
 

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They don't have to do anything, cricket selection is as much art as science. I'd pick Bancroft and Labuschagne myself, but there is room in Test cricket for gut selections.
Given all the failed picks Kram likes to remind me of, the overlong stay for Nevill, refusing to bone Watson for far too long and their love affair with Marsh.
I'd say I don't trust their gut, and that goes back many sets of selectors.
 

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Its interesting bagging Harris test record and saying Bancroft is better, Harris first series he averaged 37 against India, Bancroft first series he averaged 25 against England, both series at home. In that same Ashes series, Mitch Marsh averaged 80...

Bancroft got better when he had the added responsibility of being the sandpaper guy, doesn't Harris deserve the opportunity to have another go given he has done nothing but score runs since his last test and is the incumbent?

Plus as has been mentioned and overlooked, everyone is happy to leave out Labuschagne despite the fact he has a lot more runs than Bancroft against the same county bowling attacks!!! But select Bancroft because he has made runs in Div 2 county cricket, but Labs runs in Div 2 County cricket don't count...

You all sound just like the Australian selectors!!!
Not me. I wouldn't trust any of them.
CA needs a massive clean out. Get that broom out and give the place a good sweep.
 

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Broad and Archer to miss the Test for England? Interesting.
Better not to be correct!
You cant drop Broad in England. That would be an all time dumb move by Root , who has a history of making bad calls.
 

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Seeing Archer bowl with more consistency towards the end of the WC, I can't really see why he can't replicate his white ball form in Test matches. Much like Bumrah, he's full of tricks, and I could have seen him causing us some trouble.

Will be laughing in Broad is left out for Curran, but I doubt that will happen.
That would be a huge call to overlook Broad. I'd be super surprised if that happened. Australia would be happy that's for sure.

If the article is correct England are going for a more sensible 5-man bowling option with Ali batting at 8, which I think is their best line-up.
 

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He’s a worse Johnson type, at least Mitch had a golden couple of years. Don’t rate Starc at test level
If I was an Australia selector I would leave out Cummins.

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Anyone remember his bowling on this pitch?
where he went 1 for 60..
then in the next test where another green top was laid down... he was banging the ball in half way down the pitch on a green wicket.
 

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If I was an Australia selector I would leave out Cummins.

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Anyone remember his bowling on this pitch?
where he went 1 for 60..
then in the next test where another green top was laid down... he was banging the ball in half way down the pitch on a green wicket.
At an economy of 2.3 off 26 overs in fairness. He was crucial in applying pressure while Lyon took the wickets. That pitch didn't end up being as lethal as it looked for pace bowlers anyway.

Completely different prospect in England. We're talking about swing not bounce.
 

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This idea that if you pick Wade you also have to pick Harris because they both had great Shield seasons is complete and utter nonsense. Here is why:

Firstly, Shield form is not the only relevant form. There is far more relevant information to consider than just Shield form. Wade has churned out runs in every format he’s played over the last 12 - 18 months. He’s now made runs in England as well, including a hundred against the England Lions who have a far better bowling attack than anything Lab or Bancroft faced in county 2nd div. Then there is the fact that Harris and Lab have both had recent opportunities at Test level and been not quite good enough.

Secondly, they are competing for different spots against different players. Bancroft has been solid to excellent since his return to Cricket. Labuschagne has made runs in second division, but as previously mentioned, that is not a very high standard competition. Labuschagne’s overall FC record does not merit selection. Wade has been knocking down the door for 2 years.

Thirdly, the whole argument is just an obvious logical fallacy. They are two separate selection questions and Shield form is just one of many factors. Wade clearly deserves a spot in the middle order based on weight of runs over a long period including recently in England against a quality attack. To claim that therefore Harris must deserve a spot as an opener because he had a slightly better Shield season last year is so obviously nonsense that I can’t belive I have to actually write this out.

For the record, I personally think that Harris vs Bancroft is probably a pretty tight call.
 

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Channel 4 in the UK has done a series on the 2005 Ashes. Is there anyway to view it in Australia?
 

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For the record, I personally think that Harris vs Bancroft is probably a pretty tight call.
Listening to Langer banging on about how great Bancroft has been since his suspension I'd say he's almost a certainty to be picked.
 
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