Rolling Ashes Squad Thread

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There's just no chance Starc and Harris aren't in that team, barring injury. I don't think Warner and Smith are shooin either, given no form in long format and having not played it for over a year. Hit and giggle is one thing, 4/5 day cricket is something else entirely.

Pucovski is about as left field as a selection gets. Squad, maybe. Starting 11? No chance. It would be the least experienced team to play England in over 130 years.
Smith will be straight back into the team. I strongly believe Warner will be too but there is absolutely no way in hell we do not rush the bloke who averages 61 at test level straight back into the side.
 

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I think the top 4 is pretty set

Harris
Warner
Khawaja
Smith

That looks fairly sold IMO. Spot up for grabs for 5 and 6. I wouldn't be against playing one or even both of Burns and Renshaw in the middle order. Head and Maxwell the other two I'd consider playing at 6. It'll really come down to the second half of the Shield season. I really hope we look past Marsh for the Sri Lankan tests as I don't think he deserves to be in the Ashes squad and beating up on Sri Lanka may be enough to get him there.

As far as the bowling goes, I think these four will all be picked in the squad, but I think CA will be hoping Pattinson can keep fit and take some wickets in the Shield as he is one who can really swing the ball.

If I'm picking an 11 now, supposing everyone is fit, it would probably look like this

Harris
Warner
Khawaja
Smith
Burns
Head
Paine
Cummins
Pattinson
Lyon
Hazlewood
I don't mind this. The only reservations i have is that Warner tours but does not start. I don't know if we can just rush him back. I think Burns deserves his chance first. I'd also drop Head, he isn't test standard with his technique. Pattinson i agree completely. His County form was hot and i think if fully fit he could be the leading wicket taker over there.
 

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I don't see Head getting dropped unless he really drops the ball vs Sri Lanka. If he keeps racking up 30s, then I don't really see him having much of a future, but it is a lot better and more reliable than Smarsh's innings.

Prefer consistent 30 than 0, 1, 8, 3, 4, 90, 0, 0, 0, 0, 145, 0, 0, 0 ...
 

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I don't see Head getting dropped unless he really drops the ball vs Sri Lanka. If he keeps racking up 30s, then I don't really see him having much of a future, but it is a lot better and more reliable than Smarsh's innings.

Prefer consistent 30 than 0, 1, 8, 3, 4, 90, 0, 0, 0, 0, 145, 0, 0, 0 ...
Not making the most of starts has been the common theme all series for our batsmen. MMarsh aside, they've got at least one this series but failed to develop on them, that suggests to me that the bare bones of a Test match batsman might be there, it's learning how to capitalise from them that will put the skin on the bones, or not. That's why I'm happy seeing the younger guys given a few more chances, if they can start to turn those thirties into fifties and then hundreds they have a future, and it's where I see SMarsh's age as really acting against him.
 

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Not making the most of starts has been the common theme all series for our batsmen. MMarsh aside, they've got at least one this series but failed to develop on them, that suggests to me that the bare bones of a Test match batsman might be there, it's learning how to capitalise from them that will put the skin on the bones, or not. That's why I'm happy seeing the younger guys given a few more chances, if they can start to turn those thirties into fifties and then hundreds they have a future, and it's where I see SMarsh's age as really acting against him.
I don’t head has a technique cut out for test cricket. That’s why I’d like to see him go back to shield cricket and average 45 rather than 36.
 

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I don't mind this. The only reservations i have is that Warner tours but does not start. I don't know if we can just rush him back. I think Burns deserves his chance first. I'd also drop Head, he isn't test standard with his technique. Pattinson i agree completely. His County form was hot and i think if fully fit he could be the leading wicket taker over there.
Warner will have played in a World Cup as well as FC warm up games for or against Australia A. He'll be right to go.
 

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After everything that has happened I don't see why you'd pick Warner and not play him, there's still going to be friction in the playing group and having a character like Warner sitting out games thinking he should be out there would be counter productive imo.
 
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After everything that has happened I don't see why you'd pick Warner and not play him, there's still going to be friction in the playing group and having a character like Warner sitting out games thinking he should be out there would be counter productive imo.
How so? I think it sends the opposite message. Yes we rate you but you’re not just going to push out Joe Burns who has had a good shield season and deserves a go again. I think Dave Warner needs to bank some first class runs before walking back. Sure, take him in the squad and if no one steps up then play him, but don’t just bring him back at the expense of Burns.

He disgraced himself and Australia with what he did.
 

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How so? I think it sends the opposite message. Yes we rate you but you’re not just going to push out Joe Burns who has had a good shield season and deserves a go again. I think Dave Warner needs to bank some first class runs before walking back. Sure, take him in the squad and if no one steps up then play him, but don’t just bring him back at the expense of Burns.

He disgraced himself and Australia with what he did.
Warner's straight in. He has the runs on the board, so to speak. Blokes that average nearly 50 in Test cricket are gold to us right now. Burns can fit into the line up, doesn't have to open. Certainly won't be a lack of spots!
 

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World Cup means nothing. FC more of a measuring stick.
I don't agree at all the the World Cup would mean nothing. No, it's not the same format, but he'll still be building an innings against the best quality bowlers in the world. We already know Warner can play test cricket. He'll then have a couple of FC games to play in between.
 

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Given that his ban was probably excessive in the first place, making Warner wait even further for Joe Burns or someone to fail before he gets picked is rubbing salt into the wound.

I think he'll go straight back in but I'm intrigued how the team spirit and dynamic will change once he and Smith are there.
 
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Given that his ban was probably excessive in the first place, making Warner wait even further for Joe Burns or someone to fail before he gets picked is rubbing salt into the wound.

I think he'll go straight back in but I'm intrigued how the team spirit and dynamic will change once he and Smith are there.
Keep getting flogged at home and there won't be any team spirit anyway......

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Given that his ban was probably excessive in the first place, making Warner wait even further for Joe Burns or someone to fail before he gets picked is rubbing salt into the wound.

I think he'll go straight back in but I'm intrigued how the team spirit and dynamic will change once he and Smith are there.
Excessive? Wow
 

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All 3 bans were excessive. CA are a bunch of blow in muppets though that bowed down to the pressure from outside instead of making a rational decision. A ban of between 3-6 matches (meaning they would have been available the start of this summer) would have been more than enough, considering the offence carried a 1 match ban in the ICC.
 

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I've got to say, I'm really starting to warm to Stoinis at 6, there is just something about him. He is a competitor and he is a pretty good bat who has been constantly improving. Feel free to shoot me down but if you are going to take a punt on an all rounder, I'd FAR prefer him over Labushayne and I'm a Queensland supporter.
 

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I've got to say, I'm really starting to warm to Stoinis at 6, there is just something about him. He is a competitor and he is a pretty good bat who has been constantly improving. Feel free to shoot me down but if you are going to take a punt on an all rounder, I'd FAR prefer him over Labushayne and I'm a Queensland supporter.
Or we can just not pick an all rounder...especially in England.

As a QLD supporter surely you'd know Laubausghne isn't an all rounder! He bats 3 for QLD!
 

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Or we can just not pick an all rounder...especially in England.

As a QLD supporter surely you'd know Laubausghne isn't an all rounder! He bats 3 for QLD!
Yeah, don't get me wrong, I don't think any all rounder should be picked but you and I both know the selectors MUST have one. So going with their stupid thinking, I would FAR prefer Stoinis over Labrat (whom it seems the selectors also view as an all rounder because he certainly isn't being picked on his batting exploits alone).

Or just go with six leg spinning all rounders:

1. Warner (lbg)
2. Short (slc)
3. Smith (lbg)
4. Labushagne (lbg)
5. White (lbg)
6. Sangha (lbg)
 

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Yeah, don't get me wrong, I don't think any all rounder should be picked but you and I both know the selectors MUST have one. So going with their stupid thinking, I would FAR prefer Stoinis over Labrat (whom it seems the selectors also view as an all rounder because he certainly isn't being picked on his batting exploits alone).

Or just go with six leg spinning all rounders:

1. Warner (lbg)
2. Short (slc)
3. Smith (lbg)
4. Labushagne (lbg)
5. White (lbg)
6. Sangha (lbg)
I'd far prefer Laubasghne over Stones and personally it's not even close. Laubasghne has the technique and our top 6 in general have terrible techniques, Laubausghne was good in Sydney, deserves and extended run, and he's a gun short leg fielder and considering we have Head dropping dolly's at short leg it's a factor.
 
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