Bumped Ron Todd overlooked again for AFL Hall of Fame. BUMPED Todd finally made it! (see post #23)

[Saintly Viewed]

Our super star forwards over the years is so impressive.

• Dick Lee
• Gordon Coventry
• Ron Todd
• Ted Rowell
• Peter Daicos
• Peter McKenna

That's a few of them, some star power there.

My best ever forward set up:

HF. P Daicos ~ R Todd ~ E Rowell
F. W H Lee ~ G Coventry ~ P McKenna

And lurking the great Phil Carmen

 

[Countrypie]

Our super star forwards over the years is so impressive.

• Dick Lee
• Gordon Coventry
• Ron Todd
• Ted Rowell
• Peter Daicos
• Peter McKenna

That's a few of them, some star power there.

My best ever forward set up:

HF. P Daicos ~ R Todd ~ E Rowell
F. W H Lee ~ G Coventry ~ P McKenna

And lurking the great Phil Carmen

I tell you what..after looking at some old tapes of Collingwwood in 1979-81 Rene Kink coming off teh bench would be handy. The guy was a beast when he let himself go

 

[Saintly Viewed]

I tell you what..after looking at some old tapes of Collingwwood in 1979-81 Rene Kink coming off teh bench would be handy. The guy was a beast when he let himself go

and he did let himself go

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Rene Kink, he's the one on the right

 

[Santoz]

4 games at Windy Hill for 5 goals in 3 wins interestingly enough.

He must have shared it round against the Dons.

 

[35Daicos]

Ron Todd kicked 11 goals in a Preliminary Final two years in a row. Just unbelievable!!

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-20/2017-afl-hall-of-fame-ron-todd

These tallies included unmatched 11-goal hauls in successive preliminary finals.

Perhaps I've misread this bit ^ in the article on the AFL site, but I take it they mean no other player has ever kicked that many goals in a Prelim. Final, but Carlton's Harry Vallence did just that in 1932 (against Collingwood).

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Ron Todd kicked 11 goals in a Preliminary Final two years in a row. Just unbelievable!!

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-20/2017-afl-hall-of-fame-ron-todd

These tallies included unmatched 11-goal hauls in successive preliminary finals.

Perhaps I've misread this bit ^ in the article on the AFL site, but I take it they mean no other player has ever kicked that many goals in a Prelim. Final, but Carlton's Harry Vallence did just that in 1932 (against Collingwood).

I think it's the "successive" that's they key.

Another odd "successive" is Roy Cazaly played "successive" 99 games for South Melbourne and 99 games for St Kilda.

I have no knowledge of any other league player ever who played 99 games exactly each of two clubs.

No father Son eligibility

 

[Countrypie]

Rene Kink, he's the one on the right

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Not his best angle

 

[Countrypie]

4 games at Windy Hill for 5 goals in 3 wins interestingly enough.

He must have shared it round against the Dons.

Who was Essendon's full back?

 

[ipswichpies]

rotten ronnie andrews would have been their fullback then and then came to the pies when he was finished.
Kink could play when he put his mind to it which was not as often as it should been.

 

[35Daicos]

4 games at Windy Hill for 5 goals in 3 wins interestingly enough.

He must have shared it round against the Dons.

Who was Essendon's full back?

Ron Todd's VFL record at Windy Hill was indeed ordinary, especially compared to his record at other grounds. Just for fun I thought I'd have a closer look at it!

The first of those four games (in 1935), where he failed to kick a goal, was his debut game. He was the 19th man. There's no mention of an injury replacement in the Sporting Globe match report, so it's very likely he didn't get a run. http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/189127034

For the 1936 game (Gordon Coventry was unavailable but Todd was still named at CHF) he only managed the one goal. He was still a teenager at that stage, however, and the match report said "With the wind blowing at gale force, good football was out of the question at Essendon today." At Corio Park (for the Geelong vs St Kilda game) "A hail storm swept the ground during the last term and many of the players leapt the fence and sheltered against a fence, completely ignoring the game."!! So probably not a good day for the big men! In 1936 Todd kicked 18 goals from 12 games so he still wasn't a major goalkicker at that stage. http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/189607768

By 1937 he was certainly starring (62 goals from 21 games). He managed 3 goals vs. Essendon at Windy Hill that year, obviously his best haul at the ground. He was playing at CHF with Coventry still at FF. As well as hitting the post, he was responsible for setting up a couple of goals for teammates, according to The Sporting Globe, which named him as Collingwood's 2nd best player that day. http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/190342771

With Coventry having retired 1938 saw Todd finally able to get the full-forward spot, and he was almost unstoppable. He kicked 7 against Essendon at Victoria Park, but had a quiet day at Windy Hill, scoring just the 1 goal. He actually kicked 1.6 (in a narrow loss) according to The Age! From The Argus:- "The reaction of the Interstate matches must have been too much for Ron Todd, the Collingwood champion. Although flying high he could not hold the ball, and there was a decided lack of direction in his kicking." http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/205135551 || http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12448664/590428

In 1939 Todd dominated the competition yet again, but the only clash between Collingwood and Essendon that year was at Victoria Park (Todd missed the game).

So Windy Hill never saw the best of Ron Todd in his four games at the ground, but perhaps there were circumstances that counted against him and kept his goal tally rather low!

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Ron Todd's VFL record at Windy Hill was indeed ordinary, especially compared to his record at other grounds. Just for fun I thought I'd have a closer look at it!

The first of those four games (in 1935), where he failed to kick a goal, was his debut game. He was the 19th man. There's no mention of an injury replacement in the Sporting Globe match report, so it's very likely he didn't get a run. http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/189127034

For the 1936 game (Gordon Coventry was unavailable but Todd was still named at CHF) he only managed the one goal. He was still a teenager at that stage, however, and the match report said "With the wind blowing at gale force, good football was out of the question at Essendon today." At Corio Park (for the Geelong vs St Kilda game) "A hail storm swept the ground during the last term and many of the players leapt the fence and sheltered against a fence, completely ignoring the game."!! So probably not a good day for the big men! In 1936 Todd kicked 18 goals from 12 games so he still wasn't a major goalkicker at that stage. http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/189607768

By 1937 he was certainly starring (62 goals from 21 games). He managed 3 goals vs. Essendon at Windy Hill that year, obviously his best haul at the ground. He was playing at CHF with Coventry still at FF. As well as hitting the post, he was responsible for setting up a couple of goals for teammates, according to The Sporting Globe, which named him as Collingwood's 2nd best player that day. http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/190342771

With Coventry having retired 1938 saw Todd finally able to get the full-forward spot, and he was almost unstoppable. He kicked 7 against Essendon at Victoria Park, but had a quiet day at Windy Hill, scoring just the 1 goal. He actually kicked 1.6 (in a narrow loss) according to The Age! From The Argus:- "The reaction of the Interstate matches must have been too much for Ron Todd, the Collingwood champion. Although flying high he could not hold the ball, and there was a decided lack of direction in his kicking." http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/205135551 || http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12448664/590428

In 1939 Todd dominated the competition yet again, but the only clash between Collingwood and Essendon that year was at Victoria Park (Todd missed the game).

So Windy Hill never saw the best of Ron Todd in his four games at the ground, but perhaps there were circumstances that counted against him and kept his goal tally rather low!

Brilliant post.

Love what you have taught us.

Thus once again showing windy hill was a tawdry trip at the best of times.

In later years at least we had the blue pools sign there

Never liked the ground much. Always felt a long way away yet if you go past today seems very close as actually not that far from inner Melbourne.

 

[35Daicos]

Here's some Todd-related trivia that many may not be aware of! Apparently he was the uncle of the (even more) famous Dawn Fraser!!

http://williamstownfc.com.au/10-latest-news/742-ron-todd-a-tribute

In 2003, Todd was selected at centre half-forward in the Williamstown Team of the Century, an award that was accepted by his niece and celebrated Olympic swimmer, Dawn Fraser.