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Aren't we going to need a Rookie list spot for Sibosado also?

As we are using only one of our two veteran list spots (Grover), we are allowed to upgrade a rookie in the second veteran spots before the start of the season. This was the spot Barlow was elevated from.

Interestingly I notice on the clubs website, Sibo and Shepheard still listed as rookies where Ruffles, Buco, Brock etc are now listed as past players.

Unless we officially pick them up again, they are past players.
 
Hey guys, I posted this in the Drafts & Tradings board, "Those who missed out thread".

Thought you guys might like to pin this in the OP or something, gives you a list of players who missed out altogether in the National Draft.

Any ways, enjoy:

Here is a more than in depth list of players still available for the PSD/Rookie drafts:

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medium midfielders
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rhys cooyou, 181cm, 68kg, 22/3/1991 (WA)
caleb shadbolt 181cm, 78kg, 21 y.o (WA)
stephen clifton, 184cm, 89kg, 23 y.o (Vic)
jackson sketcher, 182cm, 82kg, 17/2/1992 (Vic)
ed curnow, 180cm, 82kg, 17/11/1989
johnathan beech, 185cm, 81kg, 9/11/1990 (SA)
jackson bolton, 183cm, 72kg, 15/7/1992 (Vic)
mitch carter, 184cm, 80kg, 2/7/1991 (WA)
josh duncan, 182cm, 82kg, 21.6.1991 (NSW)
michael evans, 182cm, 75kg, 28/2/1992 (WA)
mitch gent, 183cm, 78kg, 5/2/1992 (Vic)
taylor gilchrist, 190cm, 74kg, 19/10/1990 (Vic)
cameron grover, 176cm, 73kg, 21/12/1992 (WA)
scott hancock, 182cm, 78kg, 11.5.1992 (WA)
brad harvey, 185cm, 83kg, 16/4/1992 (Vic)
jason johannisen, 176cm, 67kg, 8/11/1992 (WA)
mitch keddel, 185cm, 89kg, 7.8.1988 (Vic)
adam kennedy, 181cm, 72kg, 12/7/1992 (Vic)
joel latham, 180kg, 74kg, d.o.b?
archie longbottom, 182cm, 80kg, 19y.o (SA)
adam marcon, 181cm, 79kg, 28/7/1992 (Vic)
liam mckenna,182cm, 84kg, 18/4/1992 (WA)
alex mcleod, 181cm, 72kg, 28/1/1992 (Vic)
david mirra, 186cm, 82kg, 28/2/1992 (Vic)
aaron mullet, 184cm, 73kg, 23/2/1992 (Vic)
dan nicholson, 183cm, 76kg, 2/11/1990 (Vic)
matthew outridge, 180cm, 74kg, 22/6/1992 (WA)
ryan pendlebury, 189cm, 85kg, 2/8/1992 (Vic)
shannon rioli, 174cm, 74kg, 25/5/1992 (WA)
myles sewell, 185cm, 77kg, 10/2/1988 (Vic)
matthew snook, 179cm, 71kg, 26/3/1992 (SA)
isiah stevens, 183cm, 75kg, 9/9/1992 (WA)
aaron sweet, 185cm, 85kg, 27/1/1989 (WA)
ryan wilson, 181cm, 73kg, 29/4/1992
alex elliseou, 174cm, 70kg, 30/1/1992
ryan brabazon, 182cm, 79kg, 26,12,1986 (WA)
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ruckmen
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orren stephenson, 200cm, 104kg, 1980? (Vic)
luke adams, 196cm, 88kg, 10/8/1991 (WA)
ben brown, 197cm, 87kg, 5.5.1992 (Tas)
leif cope, 204cm, 101kg, 22/8/1992 (Vic)
mitch curnow, 201cm, 84kg, 22/12/1992 (SA)
johnathan giles, 199cm, 101kg, 8/1/1988 (SA)
brandyn grenfel, 198cm, 84kg, 9/5/1992 (Vic)
joseph groenwegen, 196cm, 84kg, 25/10/1992 (Tas)
josh jenkins, 197cm, 104kg, 8/2/1989 (Vic)
matt jones, 200cm, 86kg, 12/10/1992 (WA)
josh marchbank, 200cm, 87kg, 14/2/1992 (Vic)
james orr, 199cm, 89kg, 8/8/1990 (Vic)
andrew phillips, 200cm, 86kg, 3/7/1991 (Tas)
declan reilly, 197cm, 84kg, 9/12/1992 (Vic)
alex simpson, 202cm, 91kg, 10/3/1990 (Vic)

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medium defenders
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riley heddles, 180cm, 80kg, 15/1/1992 (Vic)
nathan batley, 185cm, 74kg, 16/9/1992 (SA)
fraser brown, 187cm, 77kg, 20/11/1992 (NSW)
kieran butcher, 180cm, 78kg, 2/3/1992 (WA)
ken campbell, 175cm, 73kg, 21/10/1992 (SA)
ben casley, 189cm, 86kg, 18/3/1992 (Vic)
tom durwood, 188cm, 80kg, 1/12/1990 (Vic)
michael hibberd, 185cm, 85kg, 3/1/1990 (Vic)
tyson hunt, 188cm, 78kg, 7/1/1991 (Vic)
michael huchinson, 189cm, 75kg, 14/1/1991 (Qld)
matt hutton, 183cm, 77kg, 21/2/1992 (NSW)
daniel kulikowski, 179cm, 83kg, 5/5/1992 (SA)
kelvin lawrence, 177cm, 72kg, 14/10/1992 (WA)
jack mahony, 178cm, 79kg, 7/5/1992 (NSW)
leigh masters, 186cm, 77kg, 22/6/1992 (Vic)
thomas ruggles, 182cm, 79kg, 25/4/1992 (Vic)
blayne wilson, 188cm, 88kg, 26/1/1992 (WA)
stephen witkowski

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tall defenders
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chris luff, 190cm, 86kg, 7/1/1991 (WA)
tom bell, 190cm, 94kg, 13/6/1991 (Qld)
tyler chalwell, 192cm, 84kg, 10/3/1992 (WA)
jake crawford, 190cm, 89kg, 5/3/1992 (Qld)
marcus darmody, 190cm, 74kg, 19 y.o (Vic)
jackson ferguson, 193cm, 83kg, 23/10/1992 (NSW)
tom gordon, 194cm, 91kg, 19/4/1992 (Vic)
david kruse, 190cm, 74kg, 23/1/1992 (NT)
justin monaco, 192cm, 86kg, 7/11/1992 (WA)
dan noonan, 193cm, 92kg, 1/10/1990 (Vic)
max otten, 191cm, 83kg, 10/11/1992 (Vic)
larry owen, 194cm, 83kg, 8/8/1992 (Tas)
nick perry, 190cm, 73kg, 10/6/1992 (NSW)
alex rintoul, 193cm, 82kg, 23/9/1992 (Vic)
brayden salton, 197cm, 89kg, 19/8/1992 (Vic)
tim seagrave, 192cm, 88kg, 3/2/1992 (NSW)
michael talia, 191cm, 86kg, 2/11/1993 (Vic)
jordan treloar, 192cm, 84kg, 12/12/1992 (Vic)
kyle hartigan, 194cm, 89kg, 7/1/1991 (Vic)

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small forwards
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joel o driscol, 178cm, 77kg, 20/1/1992 (WA)
nathan ahmat watkins, 186cm, 76kg, 18/2/1992 (NT)
sam gray, 174cm, 77kg, 1/2/1992 (SA)
rowan brookes, 185cm, 82kg, 8/5/1992 (WA)
james brain, 179cm, 76kg, 5/8/1992 (NSW)
sam cust, 181cm, 67kg, 26/8/1992 (Vic)
luke dalhaus, 178cm, 74kg, 21/8/1992 (Vic)
jordan eades, 178cm, 71kg,6/10/1992 (WA)
aaron elari, 173cm, 73kg, 24/4/1991 (WA)
jamie elliot, 176cm, 71kg, 21/8/1992 (Vic)
rowan garlet, 179cm, 75kg, 5/2/1992 (Vic)
cameron johnston, 181cm, 78kg, 24/2/1992 (Vic)
anthony kyanga, 169cm, 64kg, 19/3/1990 (WA)
tim milera, 171cm, 74kg, 9/12/1992 (SA)
dionysius munkara, 173cm, 64kg, 19/1/1992 (NT)
kane murphy, 168cm, 60kg, 1/12/1992 (Vic)
jarrod ninyette, 180cm, 65kg, 23/3/1987 (WA)
tim northe, 175cm, 68kg, 24/3/1992 (Vic)
matthew rankine, 179cm, 71kg, 20/2/1992 (SA)
ben reid, 182cm, 69kg, 5/9/1992 (Vic)
dylan ribbons, 180cm, 78kg, 4/3/1992 (SA)
lachlan roach, 178cm, 69kg, 25/4/1992 (SA)
daniel semmens, 177cm, 71kg, 14/2/1992 (Vic)
luke shreeve, 180cm, 75kg, 26/7/1992 (Qld)
kristin thompson, 170cm, 70kg, 20 y.o (SA)
ozgur uysal, 179cm, 75kg, 5/8/1992 (Vic)
hayden yarran, 186cm, 81kg, 30/4/1992 (WA)
keifer yu, 179cm, 78kg, 6/4/1992 (WA)
dylan conway, 185cm, 86kg, 28/1/1992 (Vic)
Ben Ducsher, 181cm, 80kg, 29/7/1987 (Vic)
corey buchan, 188cm, 79kg, 24/5/1992 (Vic)
charlie riewoldt, 183cm, 74kg, 23/9/1992 (Tas)

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tall forwards
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zac fitzgerald, 191cm, 83kg, 16/2/1991 (SA)
darcy armfield, 188cm, 90kg, 15/1/1992 (SA)
darcy barden, 192cm, 92kg, 13/2/1992 (Vic)
kory beard, 193cm, 88kg, 13/6/1990 (SA)
blake bray, 191cm, 83kg, 7/7/1991 (NSW)
anton hamp, 191cm, 80kg, 21/7/1992 (WA)
ben haren, 196cm, 91kg, 17/10/1992 (SA)
james lawton, 197cm, 87kg, 17/1/1991 (Vic)
jake king, 190cm, 80kg, 13/3/1992 (ACT)
gavin roberts, 188cm, 80kg, 13/3/1991 (SA)
nick ryan, 196cm, 86kg, 31/8/1992 (NSW)
jimmi savage, 195cm, 78kg, 9/10/1992 (SA)
callum sinclair, 200cm, 93kg, 23/9.1989 (Vic)
jamie solly, 190cm, 94kg, 27/7/1992 (SA)
jake von bertouch, 192cm, 79kg, 4/5/1992 (SA)
josh walker, 195cm, 87kg, 12/11/1992 (Vic)

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delisted afl players nominating for PSD/Rookie draft
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Joe Anderson (Carlton)
Jarrod Atkinson (Essendon)
Jaxson Barham (Collingwood)
Jarrad Blight (Collingwood)
Jarrad Boumann (Western Bulldogs)
Steven Browne (Carlton)
Ben Bucovaz (Fremantle)
Ryan Cook (Collingwood)
Anthony Corrie (Collingwood)
Steven Dodd (Fremantle)
Beau Dowler (Hawthorn)
Robert Eddy (St Kilda)
Brad Fisher (Carlton)
Ryan Gamble (Geelong Cats)
Chris Hall (Fremantle)
Chris Johnson (Carlton)
Paul Johnson (Melbourne)
Travis Johnstone (Brisbane Lions)
Tom McNamara (Melbourne)
Luke Miles (St Kilda)
Ryan Murphy (Fremantle)
Jay Nash (Port Adelaide)
Jay Neagle (Essendon)
Brock O'Brien (Fremantle)
Matthew O'Dwyer (Sydney Swans)
Rhys O'Keefe (Carlton)
Tim Ruffles (Fremantle)
Tyson Slattery (Essendon)
Josh Smith (North Melbourne)
Michael Still (Essendon)
Kristin Thornton (Sydney Swans)
Stephen Tiller (Western Bulldogs),
Travis Tuck (Hawthorn)
Beau Wilkes (West Coast

MODS feel free to pin this where ever you like as it may help people a little bit :thumbsu:
 

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Want Elari with first pick

then any of Ruffles, Bucovaz, Cooyou,Wilson, Gordon, Monaco, Andreoli or Hamp....

But want Elari...
 
Want Elari with first pick

then any of Ruffles, Bucovaz, Cooyou,Wilson, Gordon, Monaco, Andreoli or Hamp....

But want Elari...

Last i heard you guys have shown no interest (like my mob).

Adelaide and Richmond the only ones who have at this stage
 
Interesting to hear Lloyd state in one of the FFC videos that we will be taking 2 rookies, which would suggest that we are redrafting two of the delisted players.
 

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Delisted Fremantle players Tim Ruffles and Ben Bucovaz have been guaranteed AFL lifelines, with the club promising to re-draft them at next month's NAB AFL Rookie Draft.

Harvey said Fremantle would target players capable of pushing for senior football in 2011 with its remaining two rookie list selections.

Delisted midfielder Brock O'Brien, who has endured a long string of injuries, is also being considered for a rookie spot, but coach Mark Harvey said the club was waiting to see how his body stands up through the early stages of pre-season training.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/105619/default.aspx
 
Is there a "gentlemen's agreement" with the clubs to prevent Geelong possibly rookieing Bucovaz using a pick before Freo's? I see Freo have stated that they will take both Ruffles and Bucovaz but surely they can give no guarantee unless the other clubs refrain from picking them.

That's why the article says "if available"...i.e. if said players are not picked up by clubs before whichever picks the Dockers decide to use on them.

Personally some people believe there's a gentlemen's agreement, but I don't think there is, the only thing is that clubs prefer to pick players who will be happy to move there, but that's not really an issue if you're bringing a local back home. So no, no such agreement, the players have to run the gauntlet of the other 16 clubs. That said, Bucovaz, much as I like him, probably doesn't fit the player type we need to target for this draft, so I don't think Freo should be too worried about us poaching him.
 
That's why the article says "if available"...i.e. if said players are not picked up by clubs before whichever picks the Dockers decide to use on them.

Personally some people believe there's a gentlemen's agreement, but I don't think there is, the only thing is that clubs prefer to pick players who will be happy to move there, but that's not really an issue if you're bringing a local back home. So no, no such agreement, the players have to run the gauntlet of the other 16 clubs. That said, Bucovaz, much as I like him, probably doesn't fit the player type we need to target for this draft, so I don't think Freo should be too worried about us poaching him.
There's a chance if Scott liked him though.
 

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The Worst online are reporting that Freo have promised Ruffles and Bucovaz a spot on the Rookie list. Possibly they'll pick up O'Brien too.

This leaves only one Rookie draft selection on a new player.

Might be a bit of a risk carrying 3 injury prone players on the Rookie list, I thought the main aim of the Rookie list was to have some emergency cover in case a guy on the senior list gets injured.
 
The Worst online are reporting that Freo have promised Ruffles and Bucovaz a spot on the Rookie list. Possibly they'll pick up O'Brien too.

This leaves only one Rookie draft selection on a new player.

Might be a bit of a risk carrying 3 injury prone players on the Rookie list, I thought the main aim of the Rookie list was to have some emergency cover in case a guy on the senior list gets injured.

Wrap them in cotton wool for the season :)
 
There's a chance if Scott liked him though.

Fair point, and he'll have a fair bit of input there.

Still reckon we're fairly locked into picking talls though, but I wouldn't discount it completely.
 

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