Rookies

[WaynesWorld19]

I've gone half mad trying to decide on this one.

Grundy, Pearce! Pearce, Grundy! I change every day. I'm sure the Crows will get it right though. Maybe it won't even be one of these 2.

It's a hunch, but with Grundy being predicted as a first round in ND and overlooked by every club over 70+ selections - I cannot see us taking him with the first rookie pick

Pearce is more likely, but who are the other midfielders (apart from Fisher) training with us?

 

[Stiffy_18]

Yes a strong draft for talls but all the really good ones are gone - to us

Any replacement for Stevens breaking down would come from our current listed talls - why would you resort to the Rookie list????

First pick has to be for the player with best chance to be upgraded, and probably a midfielder - Is pearce that player or one of the others at our camp ? - Bock has had good writeups as well, the others I'm vague on.

2nd and 3rd picks are more speculative (see project in AFL dictionary) players.

Fisher IMO would be available late in the Rookie draft if we want him.

Don't you mean Block?

He needs to beef up first. I mentioned him as someone I would have rookie listed last year. He has injury riddled year and was training with Port Adelaide this time last year. Thie year he came on strongly later in the year.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Don't you mean Block?

He needs to beef up first. I mentioned him as someone I would have rookie listed last year. He has injury riddled year and was training with Port Adelaide this time last year. Thie year he came on strongly later in the year.

Yes Block - I think on 73kgs, but apparently hard at it and pretty good wraps (but they all have good wraps this time of year)

 

[crowsarethebest]

I would go for Pearce/bain/sharp with our 1st pick and 2nd pick Grundy/kirkby/wilkes 3rd pick priddis fisher depending on whos available

 

[tinman]

With our position in the Rookie draft being B4 Port, I think we'll get the choice pick of those 3.
Fisher having just been deleted of Melb rookie list you would think would last to us if we want him.


So IYO who would you take with your first pick, knowing it's the only pick your going to have any real control over

Hopefully we have some control over all our picks!!

Of course remember the rookie Carlton picked up they had NO control over?

I reckon Pearce with our first pick without a doubt. I think Fisher will last longer and maybe Grundy. Pearce won't be around for our next pick.

Priddis might not be either, but given a choice of Pearce and Priddis I'd take Pearce.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Hopefully we have some control over all our picks!!

I reckon Pearce with our first pick without a doubt. I think Fisher will last longer and maybe Grundy. Pearce won't be around for our next pick.

Priddis might not be either, but given a choice of Pearce and Priddis I'd take Pearce.

Look I would be happy with those picks - what I don't think will happen is that we'll pick up Grundy.

Grundy - fairly mature body, played senior SANFL - so him missing the ND was not a development issue - the reasons that saw him ovelooked a few weeks ago will apply in the Rookie draft.

We took Andrews because he needed a few years to builded up his body.
Generally you take players that require extra development - As I said Grundy I don't think falls into that category.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Look I would be happy with those picks - what I don't think will happen is that we'll pick up Grundy.

Grundy - fairly mature body, played senior SANFL - so him missing the ND was not a development issue - the reasons that saw him ovelooked a few weeks ago will apply in the Rookie draft.

We took Andrews because he needed a few years to builded up his body.
Generally you take players that require extra development - As I said Grundy I don't think falls into that category.

I think the reason Grundy was overlooked is because his scope for improvement is not as big as that of other draftees.

Having said that I would be very surprise if Grundy didn't get at least a rookie list spot with an AFL club in 2005.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I think the reason Grundy was overlooked is because his scope for improvement is not as big as that of other draftees.

Having said that I would be very surprise if Grundy didn't get at least a rookie list spot with an AFL club in 2005.

Given your first sttaement, and given all 16 clubs overlooked him, why would the second statement apply

 

[- PC -]

True but the way Grundy plays his footy is similar to how Stevo plays his. Grundy is very well built for an 18 year old and has played for Norwood seniors for a couple of years now. So if (and I hope its not the case) Stevo breaks down then Grundy could be seen as a reasonable "replacement" on the list but not neccessarily in the side

I am looking forward to rookie draft. It will be very interesting to see just what sort of players we pick up. Personaly, I think picking up another ruckman would be a bit too much even for my liking

Then why is Jonathon Griffin still training with Don Pyke?

As reported in The Sunday Times 5/12/04

''Its Crow Time For Young Lions Star''

Matthew Priddiss's AFL dream could rest with Adelaide.Priddiss, 19, a Subiaco premiership midfielder is training with the Crows for a fortnight before the December 14 PSD and rookie draft.
Priddiss and East Fremantle colts ruckmen Jonathon Griffin were invited to train under new Crows assistant coach Don Pyke.

Priddiss who finished 4th in this years Sandover Medal and represented WA against Victoria could still be rookie listed by either Fremantle or West Coast.

Priddiss sounds like he has the goods but like a lot I feel we have our ruck set up and may give JG a miss.

 

[macca23]

Then why is Jonathon Griffin still training with Don Pyke?

As reported in The Sunday Times 5/12/04

''Its Crow Time For Young Lions Star''

Matthew Priddiss's AFL dream could rest with Adelaide.Priddiss, 19, a Subiaco premiership midfielder is training with the Crows for a fortnight before the December 14 PSD and rookie draft.
Priddiss and East Fremantle colts ruckmen Jonathon Griffin were invited to train under new Crows assistant coach Don Pyke.

Priddiss who finished 4th in this years Sandover Medal and represented WA against Victoria could still be rookie listed by either Fremantle or West Coast.

Priddiss sounds like he has the goods but like a lot I feel we have our ruck set up and may give JG a miss.

Thanks for the update, PC.

Priddis genuinely sounds okay. Given that we could well take Pearce with our first pick, do you think that Priddiss would still be there in the 2nd round, or is there any suggestion over there that Priddis is good enough for either WCE or Freo to take with their first round pick???

 

[- PC -]

Thanks for the update, PC.

Priddis genuinely sounds okay. Given that we could well take Pearce with our first pick, do you think that Priddiss would still be there in the 2nd round, or is there any suggestion over there that Priddis is good enough for either WCE or Freo to take with their first round pick???

Well Freo remember are taking Schofield so whether they choose to list another midfielder or chase talls now Simmonds is gone who knows..like most clubs West Coast are quiet on their selections/chances.WC only have 2 players currently on their rookie list so possibly they may, but like Freo IMO they have an abundanced of midfielders.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Thanks for the update, PC.

Priddis genuinely sounds okay. Given that we could well take Pearce with our first pick, do you think that Priddiss would still be there in the 2nd round, or is there any suggestion over there that Priddis is good enough for either WCE or Freo to take with their first round pick???

Sounds like our best option is to take Pearce with our 1st pick, given we appear to have a few options for the 2nd round.

 

[tinman]

Thanks for the update, PC.

Priddis genuinely sounds okay. Given that we could well take Pearce with our first pick, do you think that Priddiss would still be there in the 2nd round, or is there any suggestion over there that Priddis is good enough for either WCE or Freo to take with their first round pick???

Freo have picked up Carr and Heath Black to play in the midfield, lost Simmonds. They also look like picking up Schofield in the PSD so have added 3 "ready to play" midfielders to their list. I can't see them picking up Priddis as they are more likely to go for project type kids, and probably taller ones. This is only my view looking at their squad.

There has been some talk, I believe, of WCE drafting Priddis, but they are also pretty strong in midfield strength with a number of young guys coming through. They are a bit of an unknown as to what they'll do, but perhaps he will be considered by them. I would think he (and Fisher for that matter)would be keen to get on our list as they stand a lot more chance getting elevated and cracking a game at the Crows.

I'm not sure if the club will want Fisher and Priddis on the rookie list. Both are still young and honestly it wouldn't concern me to see both there. I would like to see us pick up Pearce with our first pick though. The reason why I don't mind seeing both there is this - look at who we are likely to be delisting/moving on at the end of 2005. After a year on the rookie list we should be able to make a decision on both these guys, and if we elevate the they are ready to play. And they are only 19/20, so we are still recruiting youth.

Realistically, only about 13% of AFL listed players have come via the rookie list (and yes......this includes Matthew Smith), so if ONE of Andrews and our three selections at the rookie draft gets elevated then we are ahead of the odds. I've posted my selections before but I would be happy with Pearce, Priddis, Fisher as our 3 selections.

Both Priddis and Fisher can both play footy, if they are up to AFL remains to be seen, but both have worked like hell for a crack and done just about everything right.

 

[johnnypanther]

given the low success rate of the rookie drafts i'ld be going for someone with raw potential with 2 of the picks:

my choices are:

Juniper 1st pick
Pearce 2nd pick if still there
Fisher or Priddiss 3rd pick

and there are players like john hinge for example that i know nothing about -

if Pearce isnt there? then i would be going for a bottom age player that our talent scouts perceive to have raw talent and plenty of upside

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Grundy,
Block,
Fisher.

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

given the low success rate of the rookie drafts i'ld be going for someone with raw potential with 2 of the picks:

my choices are:

Juniper 1st pick
Pearce 2nd pick if still there
Fisher or Priddiss 3rd pick

and there are players like john hinge for example that i know nothing about -

if Pearce isnt there? then i would be going for a bottom age player that our talent scouts perceive to have raw talent and plenty of upside

I dont think we should take Juniper with our first pick, out of all you mentioned above I would of thought Juniper was the least sought after player so I think using our first pick would be a waste.
I would like Pearce with our first
Priddis or Fisher with second
and then take a pick with the rest.

 

[No 1 Draft Pick]

given the low success rate of the rookie drafts i'ld be going for someone with raw potential with 2 of the picks:

my choices are:

Juniper 1st pick
Pearce 2nd pick if still there
Fisher or Priddiss 3rd pick

and there are players like john hinge for example that i know nothing about -

if Pearce isnt there? then i would be going for a bottom age player that our talent scouts perceive to have raw talent and plenty of upside

Agree with the reasoning here. Low success rate with rookies so go for potential upside in players

I tend to agree with the players listed above but would swap the order - Pearce (1st), Juniper (2nd) and then either Fisher or Priddiss.

For ONE of these rookies to make AFL standard we would have done well

 

[macca23]

Fantasia was quoted as saying on the weekend that we would be looking for one ready to go player and two with raw talent.

That tends to suggest that only one of Priddis or Fisher (or someone else they haven't revealed) will get a spot on the rookie list, but not both.

On that basis, I'm guessing Pearce with the first pick, Priddis with the 2nd if he's still available, and someone like a Juniper for the 3rd.

If Priddis goes in the 1st round IMO that would alter it to something like a Juniper in the 2nd and Fisher in the 3rd.

 

[Mad Dog]

Priddis
Pearce
Juniper

 

[Jars458]

Can we re-select Aidan Parker or is he too old?

 

[RooDog]

Can we re-select Aidan Parker or is he too old?

nope hes been on our rookie list too long but another team can pick him up.

 

[crowsarethebest]

Don't forget people that there is a pre season draft and we're not in it! I'm totally certain port are going to take pearce or grundy or a S.A kid

 

[No 1 Draft Pick]

Don't forget people that there is a pre season draft and we're not in it! I'm totally certain port are going to take pearce or grundy or a S.A kid

My hunch is they will take Pearce if Zantuck is gone. Choko loves the skillful fast aboriginal players. They could pull a surprise and pick up another reject likes the Tigers Fleming though

He has publicly expressed interest in Zantuck/Blumfield now that Schofield looks like he is gone but I reckon hes playing games. Zantuck looks he headed to Essendon and i doubt very much Port (or anyone) will take Blumfield.

I hope they dont take Pearce and we get him with our first pick in the RD

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Don't forget people that there is a pre season draft and we're not in it! I'm totally certain port are going to take pearce or grundy or a S.A kid

Nope, my moneys on Zantuck.

 

[mymansyd]

Nope, my moneys on Zantuck.

With such an aging list, Port should take a kid...but I also reckon they'll go for Zantuck or Blumfield. The Power is in premiership mode and are seemingly not interested in rebuilding. This may come back to hurt them in 2006/2007.