Rookies

[Football Pope]

Voss has tended to be fairly ruthless in his end of year list management.

Yes, he has!.A touch of Voss..Out of interest how many players are left on the list are from before his gig?

 

[Old Den]

Yes, he has!.A touch of Voss..Out of interest how many players are left on the list are from before his gig?

I make it 13 including Hanley.

 

[PattyKwasagun]

I make it 13 including Hanley.

Yep:

Adcock, Black, Brown, Drummond, Hanley, Hawksley, Leunberger, McGrath, Merrett, Patfull, Polkinghorne, Sheldon, Stiller.

As for the outs (Just of those who were here when Voss started, so players like McCauley aren't included - Rookies in the right period are included though):

McDonald, Lappin, Copeland, Kiel, Moody, Mills, Schmidt, Corrie, Begley, Notting, Dalziell, Henderson, Hooper, Macdonald, Bradshaw, Harding, Roe, Dzufer, Tippett, Clouston, Tyler, Garner, Sherman, Rischitelli, Brennan, Selwood, Johnstone, Proud.

That makes 28 gone. Pretty sure I'm not missing anyone there, but correct it if it needs correcting. Pretty massive list turnover in the space of three years.

 

[BigCat2]

Bart McCulloch and Kieran King also.

 

[PattyKwasagun]

Bart McCulloch and Kieran King also.

I thought we took them both in the 2008 draft, by which stage Voss was already in charge.

 

[chopperduck]

Brings to light how much of our list is being turned over, and why we shouldn't be so quick to trade and delist players we don't have to. The list is sorting itself out nicely i think. No need to try push it along quicker.

 

[Haso]

Brings to light how much of our list is being turned over, and why we shouldn't be so quick to trade and delist players we don't have to. The list is sorting itself out nicely i think. No need to try push it along quicker.

Agreed. You can only turn the list over so quickly without the team regressing too much. We had 4 wins last year because of a necessary cleanout. We can afford to do it slower and more naturally, now.

 

[Football Pope]

Brings to light how much of our list is being turned over, and why we shouldn't be so quick to trade and delist players we don't have to. The list is sorting itself out nicely i think. No need to try push it along quicker.

Yep, that's why, IMO, only the mandatory changes will happen..... and... what we offer up for Tipppett.

 

[Grimreepah]

IMO that won't be the case FP. Every year there are a few surprises. I suspect there will be about 10 list changes.

 

[weevil]

IMO that won't be the case FP. Every year there are a few surprises. I suspect there will be about 10 list changes.

Nah think the rebuilding has almost finished. There will be changes and surprises but would be very surprised if they are as substantial as the last few years.

 

[chopperduck]

There is always some surprises, but i dont' think well see as many delistings this year. We dont' have the rookie list to turn over, and the dead weight on our main list is much smaller. If you look forward to next year, assuming the likes of Buchanon, Sheldon and Hawksley are gone, there isn't a lot of 'easy' cuts left on our main list. Might be a retirement or 2 and a few rookie changes that might make the forced changes easy, but i think this year is about the last year of the list cleanout. Shouldn't be many players left on bloated contracts from pre-review.

 

[Football Pope]

IMO that won't be the case FP. Every year there are a few surprises. I suspect there will be about 10 list changes.

Dunno Grim, thinking it's more about stability..No doubt there will be a few surprises..I'm more of the school of thought of around 6 changes.

 

[PattyKwasagun]

Live chat with Josh Dyson on Wednesday is very interesting. Perhaps he's in line for another shot at it this week? It's very rare for a rookie to be given that (has it ever happened?), so I think he's every chance. Thoroughly deserved if it happens.

 

[jackess]

Are you really ready for the "recruit Mitch Brewer" campaign this early?

It's called "Operation Get Brewer".

 

[Chasing the Dream]

It's called "Operation Get Brewer".

Was on the bus on the way to the GABBA with Mitch recently. He looked far from being overweight in his normal clothes if that makes sense.

Having said that, it was not a bus I was driving. The Operation "Get Mitch" bus would need a different driver.

 

[PattyKwasagun]

Just did a bit of research. Seems Wrigley was promoted via the mid-season promotion rule on the 26th of July, yet on the 2nd of August we placed Ash McGrath on the LTI list with no replacement named. Add that to the live chat, and Voss saying he will play whatever personnel needed, and I've got a very strong feeling we're going to see Dyso get a game this week.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Given Dyson's second half to the year, would be hard to deny him. A shot at redemption.

 

[jackess]

Can he play half back? Or will he replace Banfield or Green up forward?

 

[whatboutbob]

Just did a bit of research. Seems Wrigley was promoted via the mid-season promotion rule on the 26th of July, yet on the 2nd of August we placed Ash McGrath on the LTI list with no replacement named. Add that to the live chat, and Voss saying he will play whatever personnel needed, and I've got a very strong feeling we're going to see Dyso get a game this week.

It was the deadline for nominating LTI's, so it may not necessarily be this week, but it does feel like it could be on the cards.

Can he play half back? Or will he replace Banfield or Green up forward?

Has played all over the park in the games I've seen, including in the guts. I'd give him a run in Banfield's role.

I'm not sure he has the size to make it at senior level, but if given the shot (and I hope he is) he won't die wondering.

 

[Grimreepah]

For those that see him in the reserves - would you say he is a similar player to Nahas?

 

[thoselionslads]

The thing that surprised me most when I have seen him play is his ability overhead. Really good mark for his size.

I'd say if he did get a run it would be up forward. I don't think he has the bulk to compete in the midfield at AFL level yet.

 

[whatboutbob]

It was the deadline for nominating LTI's, so it may not necessarily be this week, but it does feel like it could be on the cards.

According to Patrick Keane on twitter a bunch of players were placed on the LTI list today, so the deadline must've changed in the new (as yet unpublished AFAIK) CBA.

 

[Haso]

Who do we think will be elevated from the rookie list this year? I would think:

• Crisp
• Wrigley

And maybe:

• McKeever (but probably not)

 

[Baby_Jenks]

Is there any rush to elevate those two? They've both given something and aren't unworthy but there's still another season or two on their rookie contracts.

 

[Grimreepah]

Is there any rush to elevate those two? They've both given something and aren't unworthy but there's still another season or two on their rookie contracts.

If they're likely to get games then you want them in the senior side.