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No, unfortunately bedford and rancidpants generally do the bagging.

But I have faith in McVeigh, he is turning 23 this April and still a pretty young age. Possibly the age where he'll turn around and become a vital player for us. He reminds me a bit of Buchanan, who was only 23 back in 2005 and boy did we see a change in Buchanan's performance.
aren't you one of the young fans of adam schneider?
maybe bedford and myself (and we are NOT the only ones) are fed up with seeing the likes of mcveigh get all the chances he's had and do far less than so many other blokes who've not been afforded the same opportunities
maybe you fans of schneids should be wondering why we traded a bloke of about the same age who, despite inconsistency, HAS proven himself up to senior level, but kept a bloke who has repeatedly let the club down
maybe bedford and myself want to see, at the very least, a bit of HEART, a bit of desire for the contest, from a bloke who was a No 5 draft pick
i'm surprised there's not more people asking the same questions
 

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FM0226, yes your right, Playfair did play CHB for the VFL. But you all have to remember he was fightin for that position with Egan (who was All Australian CHB) Play him at CHB and give (a fit) LRT a go in the forward line. He will be an asset for us, not to mention Marty M. I was already a fan of his when he was at Adelaide.
It's gunna be good to see Leo, Marty, Malceski and Kenally all streaming out of the backline at the SCG.
Surely your not serious? LRT has got no idea about playing up forward. I've seen him play there a few times and he's been average at best. He's more mobile than Playfair hence he should remain in defence and Playfair should be used in attack.
 

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aren't you one of the young fans of adam schneider?
maybe bedford and myself (and we are NOT the only ones) are fed up with seeing the likes of mcveigh get all the chances he's had and do far less than so many other blokes who've not been afforded the same opportunities
maybe you fans of schneids should be wondering why we traded a bloke of about the same age who, despite inconsistency, HAS proven himself up to senior level, but kept a bloke who has repeatedly let the club down
maybe bedford and myself want to see, at the very least, a bit of HEART, a bit of desire for the contest, from a bloke who was a No 5 draft pick
i'm surprised there's not more people asking the same questions
rancid i don't need to say anything else,but agree with your last post
 
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Surely your not serious? LRT has got no idea about playing up forward. I've seen him play there a few times and he's been average at best. He's more mobile than Playfair hence he should remain in defence and Playfair should be used in attack.
you're bang on here, LRT is far more mobile, has been slowly learning the ropes as a central defender and, fully fit, and with continued development WILL BE one of our key players at CHB over the next 5 years or so
 

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aren't you one of the young fans of adam schneider?
maybe bedford and myself (and we are NOT the only ones) are fed up with seeing the likes of mcveigh get all the chances he's had and do far less than so many other blokes who've not been afforded the same opportunities
maybe you fans of schneids should be wondering why we traded a bloke of about the same age who, despite inconsistency, HAS proven himself up to senior level, but kept a bloke who has repeatedly let the club down
maybe bedford and myself want to see, at the very least, a bit of HEART, a bit of desire for the contest, from a bloke who was a No 5 draft pick
i'm surprised there's not more people asking the same questions
I do know where you guys are coming from. I know McVeigh hasn't been living up to his 'number 5 draft pick' but there is potential in him. He could be a late bloomer, I don't know but I quite understand how frustrated you and bedford are. Just bare with McVeigh for another year because I know he could turn it around, he can prove it to himself and many McVeigh, baggers like yourself, wrong.

And as for Schneider, who was the one who told us to move on? Who's the one who told us that he's playing for the Saints and that it doesn't matter to us anymore? Of course, we can question why we traded him instead of McVeigh, who hasn't stepped up at all this year but surely, Roosy probably sees something in McVeigh that many here don't. Remember, Roosy can bring out the best in people and probably McVeigh will take on a different role this year... less of the tagging which has limited his performance on the field.
 
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I do know where you guys are coming from. I know McVeigh hasn't been living up to his 'number 5 draft pick' but there is potential in him. He could be a late bloomer, I don't know but I quite understand how frustrated you and bedford are. Just bare with McVeigh for another year because I know he could turn it around, he can prove it to himself and many McVeigh, baggers like yourself, wrong.

And as for Schneider, who was the one who told us to move on? Who's the one who told us that he's playing for the Saints and that it doesn't matter to us anymore? Of course, we can question why we traded him instead of McVeigh, who hasn't stepped up at all this year but surely, Roosy probably sees something we don't about McVeigh. Remember, Roosy can bring out the best in people and probably McVeigh will take on a different role this year... less of the tagging which has limited his performance on the field.
i HAVE moved on, good grief, i was using the schneider case as an example, simply that trading mcveigh might've been a better option, seeing as he's done less for the club than schneider
i have certainly moved on
i'd like to move on from mchack, too, but people such as your good self keep talking about faith, etc, when the player himself has, to date, shown very little to justify any faith in him ... i once had faith too, and have been let down ...
i have a very good position for him, that would make the most of his alleged running ability
 

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i HAVE moved on, good grief, i was using the schneider case as an example, simply that trading mcveigh might've been a better option, seeing as he's done less for the club than schneider
i have certainly moved on
i'd like to move on from mchack, too, but people such as your good self keep talking about faith, etc, when the player himself has, to date, shown very little to justify any faith in him ... i once had faith too, and have been let down ...
i have a very good position for him, that would make the most of his alleged running ability
Fine, we'll end it here. May McVeigh play well from here on end which will be a win win situation I guess for both of us. But to get something straight, I only started having faith in him after the 2007 season, I bagged him 24/7 throughout last year... but I'm feeling sorry for him so I'm giving him another chance.
 
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Fine, we'll end it here. May McVeigh play well from here on end which will be a win win situation I guess for both of us. But to get something straight, I only started having faith in him after the 2007 season, I bagged him 24/7 throughout last year... but I'm feeling sorry for him so I'm giving him another chance.
riiiiight
 
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i would play playfair in the forward line simply because he will take the opposititons 2nd or 3rd best defender. that will free up a player like ROK, MAGIC or DAVIS.
but in saying that some of you would probably think that LRT could do that as well! to me he is better suited at CHB, yes because he is more mobile than playfair, but the fact is he strengthens the sides spine (i dont no how but he just does) also the swans seem to use LRT as their switch of the play target and he generally does well at that role (except when he fumbles;))
...............also it saves leo barry doing those suicidal runs off the back line (i cringe every time he does it) :eek:
 
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i would play playfair in the forward line simply because he will take the opposititons 2nd or 3rd best defender. that will free up a player like ROK, MAGIC or DAVIS.
but in saying that some of you would probably think that LRT could do that as well! to me he is better suited at CHB, yes because he is more mobile than playfair, but the fact is he strengthens the sides spine (i dont no how but he just does) also the swans seem to use LRT as their switch of the play target and he generally does well at that role (except when he fumbles;))
...............also it saves leo barry doing those suicidal runs off the back line (i cringe every time he does it) :eek:
nothing's ever gonna stop leo doing that, which is why he's a liability as a KP defender and must be played on a flank or in a pocket
LRT is gonna be a star
as for playfair, i think the rest of the competition knows enough about him to suggest they're not gonna waste 2nd or 3rd defenders on him, not yet anyway
micky o, davo and definitely ROK, when he's up in the forwards, are far more dangerous
but let's hope playfair does step up, maybe i can be proven wrong on him too
 

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I do know where you guys are coming from. I know McVeigh hasn't been living up to his 'number 5 draft pick' but there is potential in him. He could be a late bloomer, I don't know but I quite understand how frustrated you and bedford are. Just bare with McVeigh for another year because I know he could turn it around, he can prove it to himself and many McVeigh, baggers like yourself, wrong.

And as for Schneider, who was the one who told us to move on? Who's the one who told us that he's playing for the Saints and that it doesn't matter to us anymore? Of course, we can question why we traded him instead of McVeigh, who hasn't stepped up at all this year but surely, Roosy probably sees something in McVeigh that many here don't. Remember, Roosy can bring out the best in people and probably McVeigh will take on a different role this year... less of the tagging which has limited his performance on the field.
okay i will leave him alone till at least a few games into the season,but if he dosen't do it for the bloods this year,he is gone.
if we only knew what their contracts are it would be interesting to see how schneides and mchack compare,if there wasn't much diference you wonder how the wrong one was traded.
for those posters out there who think mcveigh would go well as a small forward,think of all the easy goals he has missed so far.he reminds of simon garlick who in the 96 prelim.missed from 20 metres out which could have cost a spot in the GF.
 

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Fine, we'll end it here. May McVeigh play well from here on end which will be a win win situation I guess for both of us. But to get something straight, I only started having faith in him after the 2007 season, I bagged him 24/7 throughout last year... but I'm feeling sorry for him so I'm giving him another chance.
i feel sorry for schneides having to play with,frase,nick and the rat milne,don't women just love this guy
 
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okay i will leave him alone till at least a few games into the season,but if he dosen't do it for the bloods this year,he is gone.
if we only knew what their contracts are it would be interesting to see how schneides and mchack compare,if there wasn't much diference you wonder how the wrong one was traded.
for those posters out there who think mcveigh would go well as a small forward,think of all the easy goals he has missed so far.he reminds of simon garlick who in the 96 prelim.missed from 20 metres out which could have cost a spot in the GF.
there's a fairly obvious reason why mcveigh wasn't traded ... no one wanted him
 

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No, unfortunately bedford and rancidpants generally do the bagging.

But I have faith in McVeigh, he is turning 23 this April and still a pretty young age. Possibly the age where he'll turn around and become a vital player for us. He reminds me a bit of Buchanan, who was only 23 back in 2005 and boy did we see a change in Buchanan's performance.
Good post :thumbsu: I agree we should lay off him!

okay i will leave him alone till at least a few games into the season,but if he dosen't do it for the bloods this year,he is gone.
if we only knew what their contracts are it would be interesting to see how schneides and mchack compare,if there wasn't much diference you wonder how the wrong one was traded.
for those posters out there who think mcveigh would go well as a small forward,think of all the easy goals he has missed so far.he reminds of simon garlick who in the 96 prelim.missed from 20 metres out which could have cost a spot in the GF.
I think one of the spoilt stuff we have as swans fans is he is not playing for Lastmond or Carltank he would probably look a lot better in that lot..... Garlick went on to do well with dogs almost got to p'ship 97 and that year IIRC was close to runner up B& F

we have to have balance in the slag off ... yes he has disappointed but .....

My worry is he doesn't mark and is less inclined to lead and ask for them to kick to him , but it is a confidence game , and all-round 2007 was not a good Swan year

see above 23!

PS.... my guess is Swans had cap problems and Roosey got help from Rossy... who do you want mid tier?.... anyone would take Schnieder over McVeigh any day!!!
 

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Good post :thumbsu: I agree we should lay off him!



I think one of the spoilt stuff we have as swans fans is he is not playing for Lastmond or Carltank he would probably look a lot better in that lot..... Garlick went on to do well with dogs almost got to p'ship 97 and that year IIRC was close to runner up B& F

we have to have balance in the slag off ... yes he has disappointed but .....

My worry is he doesn't mark and is less inclined to lead and ask for them to kick to him , but it is a confidence game , and all-round 2007 was not a good Swan year

see above 23!

PS.... my guess is Swans had cap problems and Roosey got help from Rossy... who do you want mid tier?.... anyone would take Schnieder over McVeigh any day!!!
thank you,but myself and a few other swans people worry that roosy and ross are too close,they might be great freinds but the bloods come first.
 

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that's a hackneyed comment....we'd all like to be good enough, or have been good enough, to maybe get to play footy at that standard
unfortunately, we're stuck with what we are, and we're left to stand and watch, to cheer and jeer, and admire or criticise what we see
anonymity be damned, you don't like it you don't need to participate in any online forums, or even go online at all

what's worse, however, is to actually HAVE the talent of a bolton or, dare i say it, a mcveigh (yes, obviously he has some ... somewhere) and to squander it once you've been given the chance, or earned the chance to play at afl level
certainly, the one thing the average fan can believe he/she has in the same amounts as an afl player is heart, or character
and what REALLY pisses me off is to see the likes of mcveigh (jude bolton certainly has heart), week in week out, fail to show the required heart or character or desire to make the most of the obvious football skills he must have shown at some point of his career, to have been drafted No 5
it's a diabolical waste, and that is when every fan is entitled to be offer an opinion
Outstanding post. Forums are for people to have their say and our time line in history is darn lucky to be able share thoughts.

I might have got stuck into the likes of J Bolton and Bevan in the past year but I have equally heaped praise on those who have played brilliantly and others who have worked their guts out but are not super stars. I am one for clubs to be always raising their bottom line and am not prepared to sit back and watch overpaid players perform poorly and make unexceptable excuses and still not be made accoutable without proffering an opinion.
 
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Outstanding post. Forums are for people to have their say and our time line in history is darn lucky to be able share thoughts.

I might have got stuck into the likes of J Bolton and Bevan in the past year but I have equally heaped praise on those who have played brilliantly and others who have worked their guts out but are not super stars. I am one for clubs to be always raising their bottom line and am not prepared to sit back and watch overpaid players perform poorly and make unexceptable excuses and still not be made accoutable without proffering an opinion.
in theory, all clubs, coaches, administrators and players are accountable to us, the supporters...without us, they have nothing, well, certainly nothing that will earn them any money
 

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Some of the key aspects to come out of the interview include;

- Expect Hall and Kennelly to be better in '08. Hall definately available for Round 1 of season proper.

- Same principles in place in terms of style of play, basics of the game the same.

- Malceski, Mattner, Kennelly on a wing at certain times, alternating between half back.

- Playfair up forward.

- More outside run with the introduction of Barlow and Mattner.

- Need to improve on skills, turnovers killed us in '07.

- Jude Bolton has had a terrific pre-season and will play more on ball this year.
Kennelly was in terrific form at the very start of 07 unfortunate to get injured, i love the dash from defence, id take it from that comment his ankle is 100%

What exactly was wrong with Hall last season? i heard eye problems and knee problems yeah?

Malceski is/will be a real star, he is a perfect fit for your team, plenty of dash and has a solid kick on him.

Barlow, wow, played 3 or 4 games and i duely noted him down as a great player in the making, will be very interesting to see how he does, he seems set for a spot in the 22?

Mattner huge inclusion, surprised to see he might get a gig in the wing, thought he'd stay deep in defense?
 
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Kennelly was in terrific form at the very start of 07 unfortunate to get injured, i love the dash from defence, id take it from that comment his ankle is 100%

What exactly was wrong with Hall last season? i heard eye problems and knee problems yeah?

Malceski is/will be a real star, he is a perfect fit for your team, plenty of dash and has a solid kick on him.

Barlow, wow, played 3 or 4 games and i duely noted him down as a great player in the making, will be very interesting to see how he does, he seems set for a spot in the 22?

Mattner huge inclusion, surprised to see he might get a gig in the wing, thought he'd stay deep in defense?
around the time of the mattner trade, crows fans on their board were voicing disgust at the coaching decision to play mattner in defence, said it cost him his place at the club, basically
they were largely of the opinion he should never have been moved from wing into defence, so i'd reckon, based on that, he'll be tried on a wing with us first
 

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Kennelly was in terrific form at the very start of 07 unfortunate to get injured, i love the dash from defence, id take it from that comment his ankle is 100%

What exactly was wrong with Hall last season? i heard eye problems and knee problems yeah?

Malceski is/will be a real star, he is a perfect fit for your team, plenty of dash and has a solid kick on him.

Barlow, wow, played 3 or 4 games and i duely noted him down as a great player in the making, will be very interesting to see how he does, he seems set for a spot in the 22?

Mattner huge inclusion, surprised to see he might get a gig in the wing, thought he'd stay deep in defense?

Kennelly = knee problem, not ankle.

Hall = knee to start with (round 2) but then variety of other ailments. A groin problem was probably the most significant. Let's hope he didn't go to the same surgeon as Judd for the same "quick fix". (Actually have no idea whether their injuries were in any way similar.)

Barlow = confidence player. Let's hope that he can keep the self-belief and not go into his shell. The worst game he played of the four was his second, and in many ways it impressed me the most. Pretty much every time he touched the ball, a clanger followed - either him getting caught in possession, or a dud disposal, or just an unlucky bounce of the ball. Didn't help that the team was getting pounded by Collingwood. Yet despite upwards of a dozen clangers he was still chasing the ball late in the game, when it would have been so easy for him to go and hide, to move to places where he knew he couldn't mess up again.

Mattner = my reading of Crow fans woes was that he was being asked to be a defensive back pocket, rather than a rebounder. I don't think it matters much whether he ostensibly starts on a flank or a wing - players run so far up and down the ground nowadays that I doubt it makes much difference. What is important - and what he was recruited for - is to add more dash in the up the ground. I'm looking forward to seeing how quickly he fits in.
 

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cheers guys.

Look forward to some more battles against our new "rivals" - shame we wont get another judd v goodes, always added a bit extra to the game. Wont feel the same when he is wearing navy blue.
 

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cheers guys.

Look forward to some more battles against our new "rivals" - shame we wont get another judd v goodes, always added a bit extra to the game. Wont feel the same when he is wearing navy blue.

Yeah true, but you do have a good on-baller in Kerr. It will be good to see a Kerr-Kirk battle!!
 
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i love watching that idiot adam hunter,
trying to touch up MAGIC. hitting him with "love taps" and bumping him up

then bazza jogs in to help magic and boy the look on hunter is priceless, i have never seen a bloke jump back into his shell so quick!:D
 
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i love watching that idiot adam hunter,
trying to touch up MAGIC. hitting him with "love taps" and bumping him up

then bazza jogs in to help magic and boy the look on hunter is priceless, i have never seen a bloke jump back into his shell so quick!:D
geez, hunter's a goose
that performance on micky o that night was just so fcking pathetic
it wasn't tough, it wasn't a show of mental or physical strength, it was just the weak act of an ill-bred bogan
as the weagles' real strength and quality fell away last season, hunter was shown up for what he really is: a fair footballer who's got a good leap, but no brains and no class
i don't think it needs me to say his stupid haircut says so very much about him
 

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geez, hunter's a goose
that performance on micky o that night was just so fcking pathetic
it wasn't tough, it wasn't a show of mental or physical strength, it was just the weak act of an ill-bred bogan
as the weagles' real strength and quality fell away last season, hunter was shown up for what he really is: a fair footballer who's got a good leap, but no brains and no class
i don't think it needs me to say his stupid haircut says so very much about him
Agree with every word there.
He's a dirty coward. He might kick a few goals against us every game. But the stuff he does off the ball just shows how much of a dirty coward that bogan is.
 
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