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List Mgmt. Ross Lyon - Sacked
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The fact he got this team to beat Geelong and so close to beating Sr Kilda is impressive.
Could’ve got smashed by both tbh. Ffs we should’ve won today
Could’ve got smashed by both tbh. Ffs we should’ve won today
Brad Hill kicking out on the full. Duman going in trying to spoil like Superman but ended up not even touching the ball. The mistakes/turnovers we did was pathetic. It’s up to the players. Ross was filthy with the skills at times.
So yes he wants better skills. Not having a runner until after goals is a problem and definitely so today
Our skill errors were the main reason we lost. It was so obvious. We dominated the second quarter and most of the third and fourth but continually gave it back to the Saints keeping them in the game.
Chalk it up as another loss where the effort was fine but the skill couldn’t get the job done. Ross coaches effort over skill. I’m blaming Ross.
Perhaps if we had more of a skill focus at training Hilly doesn’t miskick that.
Why would he need to change when he has the team he wants healthy and playing well? After that wins and form dictate a lot of things. I don't understand the change for change sake's argument..
Last Round: 3rd youngest side (us) against the 15th youngest side on their home deck. STK fans shouldn't be getting too buoyant about Ratten and their list..
Coupled with the fact that if we had 1 legitimate tall forward playing, Carlisle wouldn't have taken those 4 intercepts in the fourth quarter.
Coupled with the fact that if we had 1 legitimate tall forward playing, Carlisle wouldn't have taken those 4 intercepts in the fourth quarter.
Still stroking I see..
Non contested marks, picking apart zones, players with handball or kicks is what is missing.
We look crap because we always kick it to a contest all over the ground.
In my opinion it's the coaching, gameplan that makes our players look worse than what they are.
Starts at Peel and we will never be elite with such doctrine.
Short low passes, leading, gut running to make space at least gives us a chance to hit the garden shed
rather than the barn.
2015 called. They would like their list management strategy back.
Because playing the 'team he wants' are the same old's largely. He backs some players to the death while others basically have no shot unless half the team is injured. It's not totally based on ability either.
Michael Johnson and Zac Dawson would still be getting a game if they could and we'd just fall off the cliff a few years later again anyway. Imagine if Ballas actually got a game on the weekend?
It's not about 'playing the kids' because we do have relatively young team, it's about who he plays when and why.
Yeah, you're right. Its the first time that a Freo team coached by Ross has had a key back pick off pass after pass after pass going into our forward line due to just roosting it long. Guess we should cut him some slack....
Lucky it hasn't been happening for years or anything.
They avoided Carlisle for 3 quarters, but please blame Ross again.. Players make the decision to kick it to the wrong place..Yeah, you're right. Its the first time that a Freo team coached by Ross has had a key back pick off pass after pass after pass going into our forward line due to just roosting it long. Guess we should cut him some slack....
Lucky it hasn't been happening for years or anything.
Taylor
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I think he could have still taken those marks, the benefit for us would have been having someone to run up as a marking option when we were trying to move the ball forward. With only Sandi and Darcy it was a case of either hope the ball comes to ground or gets spilled over the boundary, either way we are playing for a stoppage.
The past is such a crutch for your arguments. We are playing kids because our list is kids and there are players our that he would prefer to play. If you refuse to believe that our list and game plans have changed then there is nothing that anyone can say to dissuade you. You will just keep rolling out 4 year old bullshit.
Our list management strategy? What's that got to do with our current list? Who said anything about playing Ballas?
There are some absolute shockers in our team at the moment, we don't have alternatives.
No they actually don't and if they do its purely down to poor coaching. They are full times footballers and if they are continually time after time kicking it to the wrong place that is 100% squarely on the coaching staff.
Nit-picking. In the end the player's decision to kick it where Carlisle was is the mistake.
How many preseasons does it take to train skills? Would a different coach have trained Carter to hit that kick inboard to Conca?? Or what about the Duman handball that kept the ball in play that resulted in a goal.
In regards to kicking to Carlisle, does fatigue play a factor? Only happened in the last quarter where decision making was poor. Bloody Ross!!
In regards to kicking to Carlisle, does fatigue play a factor? Only happened in the last quarter where decision making was poor. Bloody Ross!!
What about the previous three quarters? I'm not saying that our game plan at full strength doesn't employ that strategy however we were not doing it and all of a sudden players dropped their bundles and panic kicked..
Some of our players lost their composure in that last quarter and it cost us the game. The coach has little to do with the outcome at that point.
Carter's second game in the AFL and first road game, don't think he needs to be mentioned. In the end though those are decisions and poor ones in some instances. Our kicking for goal in the third quarter was terrible, game should have been over.
You are right, defenders never have a field day against Fremantle. But it's not the coaches fault we kick to the wrong spot year after year after year. I mean how can the coaching staff change that? They can't kick the ball themselves right?
| Round 17 | 2017 | Shannon Hurn (1) (West Coast) |
| Round 6 | 2018 | Shannon Hurn (2) (West Coast) Lachie Neale (3) (Fremantle) |
| Round 20 | 2018 | Elliot Yeo (1) (West Coast) |
| Round 4 | 2019 | Shannon Hurn (3) (West Coast) |
| Round 16 | 2019 | Brad Sheppard (1) (West Coast) |
Unfortunately, with membership dropping, Hill Leaving and no real big signings on the way, Ross is pushing the proverbial up hill.
When he gets the chop next year, the club will be in serious strife, as people don't need to be members to watch a game at Optus.
I think the club is destined for a long stint in the bottom 8
When he gets the chop next year, the club will be in serious strife, as people don't need to be members to watch a game at Optus.
I think the club is destined for a long stint in the bottom 8
That is 100% coaching, you know they train situational play right? Losing composure and blindly kicking is a coaching fault plain and simple.
Taylor
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This is where I think we gave up our chance to take the game away from St Kilda. We left the door open and then our mistakes let them through.
If Duman, Fyfe, Switta, Conca had scored those then it's a different game. I'm not so sure Duman should handball to Walters running onto his wrong foot though, but you'd back in Walters - except that snap he tried and missed the lot.
He really said that? I guess that confirms that it was 100% a coaching error then.
