List Mgmt. Ross Lyon - Sacked

Is Ross still the man for the job?


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Randomizor

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So you go further down the the "you must not a supporter" slide to 'prove' your point. I'll continue to challenge you're assertions on the supporting styles of others. I ain't going anywhere.

I believe there are a good many things that need changing/improving about our club. In no particular order and not a complete list:
  1. Our assistants
  2. Our S&D team
  3. Our scouting and drafting of WA youngsters
  4. Our interactions with the media and how we control (or have lack of control) of our messaging
  5. Rosich
  6. Ross (or for Ross to change in enough ways that the same mistakes don't keep happening)
It's clearly not all Ross' fault and sacking Ross won't fix the world but he continues to make questionable decisions and I'll continue to have an opinion on them.

Your call if you are offended by this and have to go all faux tough guy/top follower to prove something.
Don’t feed the troll. Report him and move on.
 

Taylor

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Jul 16, 2009
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Did you say it isn't? You are using other teams faults to excuse our own.
Every team would prefer a turnover 45m up the ground than a free kick against or a turnover where they are.

Every team. When we have our contested marking talls in the team it looks a lot better.
 

dont bowl there

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Every team would prefer a turnover 45m up the ground than a free kick against or a turnover where they are.

Every team. When we have our contested marking talls in the team it looks a lot better.
Team with best 22 looks better than team with injuries, shocking. Kick long and hope for a contested mark is not the way I see the club succeeding, you do so I guess that makes sense why you are all over keeping Ross long term.
 

Taylor

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Team with best 22 looks better than team with injuries, shocking. Kick long and hope for a contested mark is not the way I see the club succeeding, you do so I guess that makes sense why you are all over keeping Ross long term.
The short lead is the holy grail, that's why most clubs defend it. Last two home games are polar opposites of that if you care to review it for yourself. Sydney zoned up shallow to block those kicks, Geelong set up longer to back themselves to beat us in the air.

All teams can be defended against like that, the shallow zone, but if you get out the side it makes for fast transition against. So when a switched on team is defending it will force every team to kick long down the line. The teams with really good contested marks will do better. Either their forward will mark, their defender will or it spills.

Whenever we have been allowed the space to play the shorter game, running and carrying we have.

I really would hope that people notice that the teams at the top of the ladder that play a set back defense and back themselves to intercept then switch on us, creating more space - have been troubled by our game plan. It's in our best interests for them to continue playing this way, once our use tidies up they will have to shift their defensive zones and give up their outside space on the turnover to shut us down.
 

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kingswood71

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Did you say it isn't? You are using other teams faults to excuse our own.
no...I actually stated that its all related to poor forward entries. I then also said that all teams suffer from this and we are not alone.
Now you can take that as an excuse if you so desire but its merely a fact.
 

theGav56

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Raffrox isn't alone, Ross is a polarising figure, even within one's own mind
No you are right. Quite a few flip-floppers have emerged. No doubt the fix is winning though, and that is the task that lies in front of us now for 2020. A reasonable challenge, and one I am confident about.
 

The Joker

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Lyon is coach now and will coach in 2020. End of story .
You better get used to it and who knows you might even join the majority of supporters who accept the fact and have got behind the club. ;)
Seriously? I dropped my crystal met... ball, I mean, my crystal ball a little while back and it hasn't worked since!


I love it when fans get hooked on a coach, they defend that campaigner like he was the father they never had!
 

The Joker

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And our recent games have also had a different game plan, using three rucks for example, and playing much smaller in defence. Who says Lyon only has one game plan?
Not sure personnel counts for a game plan.

The fact he chose 3 genuine ruckmen proves more of the same and that he was just running out of options. Same goes for the small defence you speak of!
 

The Joker

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This is something I can't seem to get people to understand. I use this place to vent sometimes, particularly during games.
Most come in here because they know they would get laughed at if they tried to have a conversation about a game they have never played!

It's one of the great benefits of hiding behind an alias!
 

salim malik

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Seriously? I dropped my crystal met... ball, I mean, my crystal ball a little while back and it hasn't worked since!


I love it when fans get hooked on a coach, they defend that campaigner like he was the father they never had!

Yep seriously, last time I checked he was contracted for 2020 and the club will honour the contract. Not to hard to understand for most but then there is ...........
 

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