The issue About Ross Lyon isnt about winning finals, its winning the flag.
They weren't even that great at winning finals.
In 2013, they played Geelong, only for the cats to kick 9.18. They then play Sydney in Perth who was banged up and, if I recall correctly, missing some players. They play a Hawthorn team which is just... better. More attacking, more skillful, more daring, more talented.
In 2014, they finish fourth. They lose to Sydney who lead for the entire game. Then they lose to Port in a game where Port played more daring attacking football.
In 2015, they finish first with a percentage of 118.7%. Their form throughout the year was inconsistent and they knew how to beat teams but not well. They strangled teams to death through organisation and structure but lacked the killer blow. 11th for scores for in the season. They beat Sydney in a low-scoring scrap where Sydney kick 7.18. Then they play a Hawthorn side (in Perth might I add) which, again, more attacking, skillful, daring, talented side, and lose.
This was during a timespan where they won 49 home and away games in three seasons. But two of the three (just three) games were won because the team kicked awfully in front of goal. The only time they did win a final in that stage was against a banged up Sydney. So in summary, between 2013 and 2015, the only time Fremantle won a final was either when the opposition a) kicked badly or b) was injured. Even in 2012, the dockers manage to beat a side which finished sixth.
Saying that, I look at the teams right now, He would most definately suit the demons right now. Have a good 3-4 year run of finals and get a finals win or 2.
Perfect for them to get ross Lyon with that best 22.
Might be too late for Nathan Jones who is 32 years old unless he can around for another 2-3 years.
Max Gawn is only 30 and can easily play until he is 33 or 34 years old.
Hard, hard disagree. Melbourne need a coach who can create a balanced gameplan which uses the strengths of a fairly talented and youngish midfield. There's talent there, it's just that Goodwin doesn't know how to use it (yet? or maybe he's just bad). Lyon would shift the balance towards defense which would lessen the losses but stifle the creativity and development of players like Petracca and they wouldn't develop the ability to win games through attacking football which wins finals. They need a coach which can develop the players they have and build a balance between contested and uncontested, skill and grit, attack and defense. At the moment, they have grit and do get the ball inside 50 a fair bit, but lack polish and class. Lyon would most likely double down on the grit and prevent their development as a balanced team. I'm so against Lyon that I doubt he wins many premierships with any of the premiership sides of the past decade.
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