I want Ross gone because I think we need a change. If he gets us to top 4 next year I would be stoked. But I am not holding my breath that that will occur.
I believe his game style is antiquated and dour and he has an unwillingness to accept change. He was great at what he did 10 years ago but his time has come.
I think your right to an extent. RTB is a good coach & I like the fact that he is coaching next year as we all get the chance to see if he can adjust his style enough over the summer to use his new forward structure.
With respect to your last paragraph, aren’t you saying that RTB has been relatively successful in your earlier points? Why would they sack Rosich & Alcock?
Yeh very few. I'm curious whether their improvement in injury management is because of getting rid of Brett Burton (ie. a promotion from his buddies at Adelaide
) or the new team they brought in.
No they were just crap and unable to retain players until they replaced their CEO and coach at he end of 2016 and list manger around Feb of 2017.
I didn’t say we needed to tear down the list just tinker and fill the needs required to go that next step. Weagles lost in 2015 and knew they needed some more depth and bought in Redden and Jetta . In 2013 we bought in a banged up Gumbleton and 2014 no trades
So are you saying Rosich doesn't rule over Bell? Prove it!
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I also don't think it was a bad idea, but think it's important to look at the reasons why it wasn't successful so we can make effective changes.
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The club may decide that a change of direction is the best move. It happens sometimes, and doesn't solely make a judgement about the success or failure of a rebuild. The rebuild is more about the list, whereas the senior coach is more about the getting the most from the list. The decision may be that to get the most from the list a fresh start is required.
They changed their S&C team and their CEO, coach and list manager end of 2016 or start of 2017. Yes if we swapped all of those as well we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Teague has had a long period as an assistant, much longer than Hale for example. The apprenticeship is a long one.I also don't think it was a bad idea, but think it's important to look at the reasons why it wasn't successful so we can make effective changes.
None of our assistant coaches have gone on to be rated by the AFL at the end of 2018 as "next off the bench". Although they didn't rate Teague last year, they brought up quite a few assistant names with potential to be successful, but none from us.
At the end of 2015 the Dockers lost their long-time senior development coach Simon Lloyd at the end of the season, as well as midfield coach Brett Kirk and Peter Sumich was demoted from assistant coach to development coach.
Were Hale, Rock and Guerra just not up to coaching standards or experience of Kirk, Lloyd or Sumich?
Was putting Hale, Sumich and Rock in the development team detrimental to the coaches left in the seniors?
Was there no encouragement form RTB to put in the minor changes suggested by Hale?
Was this idea just to make minor changes not enough impossible to work so did RTB overrule and get the new coaches to do what he wants?
Why have none of the coaches done coaching courses available?
Shake up for Fremantle's coaching structure
Assistant coach Peter Sumich takes on development rolewww.afl.com.au
They added David Hale, Brent Guerra and Anthony Rock to the coaching staff, but the coaching structure has changed significantly for 2016.
Hale and Rock will work with Sumich and Roger Hayden in the development team.
Hale said the experience that Sumich had acquired as an assistant and line coach at both West Coast and Fremantle over the past 15 years was going to be invaluable for the development team.
"It'll be a huge advantage for us," Hale said.
"He's got a wealth of knowledge. I'm sure he can impart some of that onto us with the amount of time he's spent around good footy programs."
The three-time Hawthorn premiership player has already begun working with the key forwards and ruckmen since arriving in Perth just ahead of pre-season starting.
Simon Eastaugh, who was previously the ruck coach at the Dockers, will team up with former development coach Marc Webb as midfield coaches.
Mark Stone, who was the stoppage coach last season, will now take charge of the Dockers' forward line.
Guerra and Michael Prior are the two defensive coaches.
Hale and Guerra were premiership teammates at Hawthorn.
The Hawks have been the Dockers' nemesis in September over the last few seasons but Hale said Fremantle didn't need to change too much to overhaul the Hawks.
"Obviously they've been around the mark the last few years," he said.
"Hopefully there are a few concepts and ideas we can bring in. We're not revolutionising the game-plan or anything like that.
"I think a lot of the fundamentals they do pretty well, so it's just tinkering with a few things here and there.
"In the end they were three or four goals short of a Grand Final spot last year, so there's not a lot they need to change drastically."
Next off the bench: Senior coaches in waiting
Marc McGowan looks at the next crop of prospective senior coaches
I hope Belly can find some answers, but the basis has to be put in experienced assistant coaches, value and develop skills training under repeated pressure and develop a positive game plan and culture and success should follow.
This is where things get really interesting...if most of us agree that Lyon will be given every chance by the club next year and his fate then decided by how we perform, what happens if injuries strike again? If he gets a pass this year due to the crippled state of our list, if something similar happens again next year should he get an extension?
I tend to agree. The subtle noises he's made about possibly doing something other than senior coaching might indicate next year is an all or nothing year for him, regarding his coaching career.
Brisbane Lions have had one good year, 2019 ... after two very poor years including a wooden spoon, which you are trying to paint as some great transformation of the club.
