Like that dropped mark in defence against Carlton at Etihad earlier in the season? I almost threw something at the TV then.
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Like that dropped mark in defence against Carlton at Etihad earlier in the season? I almost threw something at the TV then.
Vince was dropped because he was only putting in 100% - 15% on Friday, 20% on Saturday, 18% on Sunday, 5% on Monday, 12% on Tuesday, 16% on Wednesday and 14% on Thursday.
Douglas was always putting in 100%.. it just wasn't happening for him. However, there was no point in punting him back to the SANFL. Firstly, doing so would be unlikely to improve his AFL form. Secondly, none of the youngsters were pressing to take his position away from him.
All basically irrelevant arguments. They had plenty of opportunities, they just failed to take them.
He was adequate before the DVD. Anybody telling you he was better than that must be either blind, or Tambling's manager. He was very poor to abysmal afterwards (especially in his SANFL games).
With 118 games under his belt, Tambling is the 7th most experienced player on our list. He damn well ought to be performing at the level expected of a senior player. He might have been new to the club, but that's still no reason to group him with a bunch of veritable babies.
There's no argument that our senior players aren't good enough - but they're still our senior players and they're still considerably better than the youngsters coming through behind them. The fact that they're still considerably better is an indictment on our younger midfielders - they're either not sufficiently developed, or (in most cases) not as good as the fans think they are (shiny new toy syndrome at work).
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Because effort was continually rewarded over output.
Allefgib did a comparison earlier this year that showed Vince's output was higher than Douglas' at the time he was dropped.
Mark Ricciuto had a fair bit to say about this topic on Triple M too.
Hopefully we are entering a new era of rewarding talent at the Adelaide Football Club, instead of who's nice, honest and makes the coaches box feel warm and fuzzy.
2 sides to the coin there though.
I want players to put in like Douglas and have Talent like Vince. This is going to be a big part of Sando's job.
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Yet still looked better than Douglas most of the time.
So what? If he wasnt performing, and he wasnt. What is the use of him in the team? I would rather tried 10 other players than let Douglas flounder. Who says confidence wouldnt have helped him. He looked so down on himself all the time. Who says he isnt a confidence player?
All basically irrelevant arguments. They had plenty of opportunities, they just failed to take them.
He was performing better than many had expected of him and looked to be improving.
A bloke new to the club, down on confidence highly rated jr who we paid a high price because we believed he is good enough and that we could turn him around.
I don't care, Reilly is a spud and we know it, Symes wont be around for long. Lyon looks to have awarness that Reilly lacks and the skills Symes lacks. Isn't fit enough, who cares. Last year we were shit anyways.
Or an inditment on the club for not developing Vince, Douglas, Knights to the point they should be at.
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Vince and Walker are laconic footballers. Both supremely talented, both with more gears than a Rolls Royce. Most of the time, they don't need to bring a gun, because for them it's just a knife-fight.
We now, hopefully, have a coach who understands the concept of a supremely talented footballer with gears.
People on here want every player to go about it like the battlers. Gee, if only Walker put in the "effort" of Mick Doughty.
That's not how talented players work their craft, and you wouldn't want them to.
(Unless you're Neil Craig)
There is a difference between sneaking out the back to get a cheap/smart kick to just being plain lazy.
I loved seeing Vince busting his arse to help the defence in the last half of the year, dissapearing and being in a great spot on the half forwardline.
Smart football over hard working. But with Vince he was just being lazy.
Walker just frustrates me because he is so talented yet so soft. He doesn't need to be, he is a big boy!
I loved against carlton seeing him vs Thornton, shruggged him off without a thought.
Walker is used to being No 1, being the player who gets fed by other players. He needs to start being the one to help feed it to the smaller guys at times.
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On a few occasions this year, the imbeciles sitting around me would berate Taylor for "waiting out the back," and when the ball invariably fell into his hands, they'd say "you were lucky this time, next time attack the contest!"
Walker has an inate ability to read the play, something that is lost on a lot of stupid fans.
Present company excluded, of course.
On a few occasions this year, the imbeciles sitting around me would berate Taylor for "waiting out the back," and when the ball invariably fell into his hands, they'd say "you were lucky this time, next time attack the contest!"
Walker has an inate ability to read the play, something that is lost on a lot of stupid fans.
Present company excluded, of course.
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Porps getting stiffed there.
Yeah, but I don't reckon he'll quite be cherry ripe for round one. Should go back and earn it and show he's past the shoulder problems.
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This is terrible. Winners mix talent with hunger. Neither alone gets you anywhere.
For most of last year, Vince and Walker brought a knife to a gun fight, and we saw where that lead us.
Sounds about right. Geelong players are known for resting on their gears, and fits in perfectly with Sanderson's "defence first and contested ball" mantra.
Fair chance he is going to have the same issues with said players as Craig did. I think they'll be better players under sando, but I dont think he will let players coast on talent alone.
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I think said players didn't put in for Craig because they didn't want to. Not because they couldn't. They (and you won't convince me otherwise) were treated like crap by Neil Craig and consequtly played that way for him.
Is that right? Not really but its a human behaviour demonstrated by people who are immature.
I imagine with a better relationship with Sanderson, bith said players will follow the team disiplines.
We saw a very different player in Walker once Bickley took over.
Is that right? Not really but its a human behaviour demonstrated by people who are immature.
I imagine with a better relationship with Sanderson, bith said players will follow the team disiplines.
We saw a very different player in Walker once Bickley took over.
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On a few occasions this year, the imbeciles sitting around me would berate Taylor for "waiting out the back," and when the ball invariably fell into his hands, they'd say "you were lucky this time, next time attack the contest!"
Walker has an inate ability to read the play, something that is lost on a lot of stupid fans.
Present company excluded, of course.
Just wondering - whereabouts roughly do you sit?
PS: I do agree with your comments - sounds like the people around me too
I think he's a good long term prospect, but I'd be astounded if Johnston is in your 22 in round 1 next year, let alone playing a key position.
Due to injuries he starting from a long way back, I think if you can get 6-8 games out of him it will probably be a good result
Due to injuries he starting from a long way back, I think if you can get 6-8 games out of him it will probably be a good result
Reilly isn't a spud, but he will only be a C grader most of the time (he can play B grade quality games). He will play some fairly decent games every once in a few, but is generally not consistent. Radar has been a very serviceable player for the club, and is brilliant for leadership and the like, but I would hope younger players can start pushing for his spot and making it hard to get back in over the course of 2012. Believe me, Reilly will end his career on his own terms, he won't ever be delisted, unless his form severely diminishes below 2011.
I don't see the point in that. If the Porpoise is match fit, he will play with us. No point in testing out the shoulder at SANFL level; whether it can hold up at AFL level is the problem.
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A 150+ game player who can play decent footy, albeit inconsistently, isn't a spud. That word should only be used for the Jacky and Cook's of this world. He is a solid, average AFL player who I said our younger players should be looking to displace in the best 22. What have I said that has upset you? The word spud gets used way too often on BF.
And where on earth did I say he was a gun? I said he was a C grader capable of player B grade games at times.
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What role will Radar play this year?
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