Round 1 2012

[jackster83]

How are we going to fit all of Doughty, Reilly, Johncock and Jaensch in our back 6?

I don't think we can fit them all in as it would leave us lacking in height (and pace) down back. Playing one on the bench or as sub seems pointless as they won't be playing in the midfield when they do come on.

Out of those four, I think Doughty should be the one to miss. He's still a good stopper but the others offer a lot more run out of defence.

 

[Paladin]

How are we going to fit all of Doughty, Reilly, Johncock and Jaensch in our back 6?

I don't think we can fit them all in as it would leave us lacking in height (and pace) down back. Playing one on the bench or as sub seems pointless as they won't be playing in the midfield when they do come on.

Out of those four, I think Doughty should be the one to miss. He's still a good stopper but the others offer a lot more run out of defence.

I agree i have been saying this for a while now. I think this weeks selection will be very telling. Doughty has to be the one to miss. I think he will play 10 or so games when we have injuries/form slump. It should mean when he plays he is cherry ripe and fit to have an impact. Not slogging away for 22 games as the old man he is He is a very good stopper so the opposition might dictate when he plays as well.

 

[Drummond]

I can see Jaensch missing out so Doughty plays. It's how we do things.

 

[amer]

I can see Jaensch missing out so Doughty plays. It's how we do things.

If that happens, seriously...

Special J is best 22 every day of the week. I can't believe that Sando wouldn't have him walking into the side.

 

[Vader]

Not to mention how good a kick for goal he is. That is an extremely underrated part of his game.

When Bernie's in front of the big white ones, he just doesn't miss.

His career scoring record is 49.34 (59%). It's about par for the course, neither spectacularly accurate or inaccurate.

How are we going to fit all of Doughty, Reilly, Johncock and Jaensch in our back 6?

I don't think we can fit them all in as it would leave us lacking in height (and pace) down back. Playing one on the bench or as sub seems pointless as they won't be playing in the midfield when they do come on.

Out of those four, I think Doughty should be the one to miss. He's still a good stopper but the others offer a lot more run out of defence.

All 4 will play, with one of them (probably Doughty) starting on the bench.

 

[beartoo]

Bite the bullet time. My side for the opener. May change my opinion after Saturday night.
It is more difficult than usual as there are so many blokes in the running--and ain't that a good thing!


FB. Johncock Rutten Shaw
CHB. Reilly Talia Jaensch
C. Vince VB Smith
CHF Douglas Tippett Petrenko
FF. Lynch McKernan Porps
R: Jacobs Thompson Sloane
Int: Doughty Dangerfield Callinan SUB Kerridge

Emerg: Mackay Wright Jenkins

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I can see Jaensch missing out so Doughty plays. It's how we do things.

It's how we did things.

Hopefully.

Sando loves Jaensch I reckon. Elite kicks in the back half. Kick out responsibilities.

 

[Vader]

I can see Jaensch missing out so Doughty plays. It's how we do things.

Funny.. Jaensch played 13 games last year between R3-R17. Doughty also played in 12 of those 13 games. I don't see any reason, based on history, why one should be omitted at the expense of the other?

For the record, Reilly also played 12 of those 13, and Johncock played every game last season.

There's no reason at all why these 4 cannot play in the same team, having done so on 11 occasions last year.

 

[WALL-e]

Jaenschy would be in my first 10 selected.

 

[Paladin]

Funny.. Jaensch played 13 games last year between R3-R17. Doughty also played in 12 of those 13 games. I don't see any reason, based on history, why one should be omitted at the expense of the other?

For the record, Reilly also played 12 of those 13, and Johncock played every game last season.

There's no reason at all why these 4 cannot play in the same team, having done so on 11 occasions last year.

Mackay, smith, sloane, callinan, porps, all have to squeeze in after missing big chunks of last year. Please don't tell me you would select doughty before any of them.

 

[Slippery Pete]

There's no reason at all why these 4 cannot play in the same team, having done so on 11 occasions last year.

Yeah because last year is such a benchmark of excellence.

 

[Drummond]

Agreed guys. I guess it's a good sign Sando gave him permission to unleash the torp, obviously rates his foot skills. Guys like him with those superb skills are real line breakers, they're essential in modern footy. He was extremely consistent after shifting to defence last year and you'd think he's a lock to play when fit.

 

[Slippery Pete]

His career scoring record is 49.34 (59%). It's about par for the course, neither spectacularly accurate or inaccurate.

All I can do is laugh at this stuff from you sometimes.

What was Ricciuto's?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Funny.. Jaensch played 13 games last year between R3-R17. Doughty also played in 12 of those 13 games. I don't see any reason, based on history, why one should be omitted at the expense of the other?

For the record, Reilly also played 12 of those 13, and Johncock played every game last season.

There's no reason at all why these 4 cannot play in the same team, having done so on 11 occasions last year.

Reilly didn't play in defence until late in the year, after Jaensch was done and dusted with his shoulder. Up until then he was in the midfield chasing after Brent Moloney.

We've never had all four down back at the same time.

 

[Vader]

Mackay, smith, sloane, callinan, porps, all have to squeeze in after missing big chunks of last year. Please don't tell me you would select doughty before any of them.

Sloane & Porps are ahead of Doughty. The others would be behind him.

All I can do is laugh at this stuff from you sometimes.

What was Ricciuto's?

Laugh away.. We all know that you're happy to ignore facts or create your own to suit your agenda (none of which does anything to advance your case).

For the record, Roo kicked 291.222 = 56.7% accuracy.

Reilly didn't play in defence until late in the year, after Jaensch was done and dusted with his shoulder. Up until then he was in the midfield chasing after Brent Moloney.

We've never had all four down back at the same time.

Fair call. I still don't see any reason why this is a problem though. 3 on the field, 1 rotating through the bench.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Laugh away.. We all know that you're happy to ignore facts or create your own to suit your agenda (none of which does anything to advance your case).

For the record, Roo kicked 291.222 = 56.7% accuracy..

And just to confirm, would you class Roo as a good kick for goal?

 

[Vader]

And just to confirm, would you class Roo as a good kick for goal?

Good.. but not great.

What made him a great player was not his accuracy in kicking for goal, but how he went about winning the ball and giving himself the opportunity to have so many shots on goal.

Roo averaged just under 1 goal per game (291 from 312) and 1.64 scoring shots per game. In contrast, Vince averages just 0.56 goals per game and 0.94 scoring shots per game.

To be fair to Vince, Roo spent a lot more time in the forward line than Vince has. That said, Vince's best output so far is just 15 goals in 2008. Roo kicked 20+ goals in 9 of his 15 seasons - not all of which were spent in the forward line!

 

[Slippery Pete]

Good.. but not great.

He was one of the best set shots ever to play for the Adelaide Football Club, if not the best.

 

[Vader]

He was one of the best set shots ever to play for the Adelaide Football Club, if not the best.

I can think of a few others I'd take ahead of him. Porps would be #1 by a country mile.

The stats don't give a breakdown of how many of his goals/behinds came from set shots & how many from general play. I'd love to see those stats, not just for Roo & Vince, but for a lot of players.

 

[Slippery Pete]

The stats don't give a breakdown of how many of his goals/behinds came from set shots & how many from general play.

Which is exactly why it's pure folly to quote them.

You can give me all the goalkicking stats you want - if an Adelaide player was having a set shot at goal for my life, Roo would be one of the very first I'd pick.

 

[Freddy Bassett]

Which is exactly why it's pure folly to quote them.

You can give me all the goalkicking stats you want - if an Adelaide player was having a set shot at goal for my life, Roo would be one of the very first I'd pick.

Porps... Although Jamo springs to mind after that goal vs Fitzroy in the rain after the siren for those old enough to remember

 

[Slippery Pete]

With the greatest of respect to Porps, I'd have the ball in Ricciuto or D.Jarman's hands before his.

Porps or Scott Welsh?

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

Porps... Although Jamo springs to mind after that goal vs Fitzroy in the rain after the siren for those old enough to remember

Gee's, that was many moons ago.

I was 8 or 9.

 

[Vader]

Porps ahead of Welsh. That streak at the beginning of 2010 was phenomenal - and almost all of them were set shots.

And going at it from the opposite angle, I'd much prefer to have McLeod kicking from on the run rather than kicking from a set shot.

 

[Slippery Pete]

That was 2009 I think. 2010 an 2011 he dropped off quite a bit.

Porps or Peter Vardy?