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DognBones

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If any were to miss its Richards for mine, I’ve seen enough from JJ to suggest he offers more there at this stage imo
Agree. I would like to see evidence that Richards has improved his involvement and output before he is picked best 22. Can't be an 11 disposals per game wing/forward forever.
 

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Agree. I would like to see evidence that Richards has improved his involvement and output before he is picked best 22. Can't be an 11 disposals per game wing/forward forever.
I like that he was playing half back in the intra club apparently. I can’t remember too many examples of players who can’t find the ball just magically learning that skill. It’s sort of a natural thing for mine, and some guys just don’t get it. I just don’t think he’s smart enough to get himself in positions forward of the ball to get enough of it and his disposal under pressure is really really poor.

I think he will thrive at HB because it’s just a really simple game plan for him, he just has to get given the ball and use his great attributes to run it out. Plus he’s really strong defensively & in the air.

I think JJ is better at delivering the ball inside 50, better finisher and will create more opportunities up forward so I’d move him to wing/hf. Plus JJ can get tagged out of games easily as a defender but it’s different as a forward because you can have literally no impact on a game, then get on the end of one or two and all of a sudden they have to completely reassess the match up.

Then Richards provides the run out of defence we need, alongside our other rebounders in Williams, Daniel etc who are more kicking based rebounders rather than run.

With Richards in def, JJ & Vanders forward, Baz & Treloar in the middle we now have some genuine pace across all lines. Should be some fun games to watch at Marvel when we get going
 

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West has to play Round 1. Cav did his chances no harm in the reserves game, although probably fighting with West for that spot so likely misses.

Already picked Cordy to miss Round 1, and am even more confident in that choice now. Him and Young will start the year in reserves, and Young will be lucky to be called up unless he seriously improves.

McNeil a distant possibility to debut early. Think he comes out for Treloar, but wouldn't rule him out just yet. Richards should play
 

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West has to play Round 1. Cav did his chances no harm in the reserves game, although probably fighting with West for that spot so likely misses.

Already picked Cordy to miss Round 1, and am even more confident in that choice now. Him and Young will start the year in reserves, and Young will be lucky to be called up unless he seriously improves.

McNeil a distant possibility to debut early. Think he comes out for Treloar, but wouldn't rule him out just yet. Richards should play
Cordy to play round one thanks
 

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FB: Williams - Keath - Cordy
HB: Daniel - Gardner - Crozier
C: Vandermeer - Bontempelli - Hunter
HF: Hannan/Jong - Naughton - B. Smith
FF: Wallis - Bruce - Martin

R: English - Treloar - Macrae

I: Wood/Duryea - Dunkley - Liberatore - Johannisen
OUT: Wood/Duryea, Hannan/Jong
IN: West, Weightman/McNeil/Dale

FB: Williams - Keath - Crozier
HB: Johannisen - Gardner - Daniel

C: Hunter - Bontempelli - Smith

HF: West - Bruce - Vandermeer
FF: Wallis - Naughton - English

R: Martin - Treloar* - Macrae

I: Dunkley Liberatore Cordy Cavarra/Weightman/McNeil/Dale

After seeing how English is being used as a floater I'm not sure Cordy should be played in addition to Keath/Gardner, but I wasn't overly enamoured with the alternative smalls yesterday. I've left him in for now, see how the next game goes.
 
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Obviously it was a practice game but I was a little disappointed at the output of our fringe players vying for roles in the side.

Jong was poor; involved yet incredibly sloppy in his characteristic way. He's just not a wingman. Dale was...fine, but just hasn't found any ways to get more involved. Lipinski was just Lipinski, clean and racking them up with no concern for his man or for defence whatsoever. Cavarra played like Cavarra - to be honest I would actually have him in the team, but he did nothing differently to when he was overlooked repeatedly last year. Richards was underwhelming in the 2nds in a stacked part of the ground. Young did nothing to reverse my thoughts on him. Cordy was underwhelming in the 2nds. Duryea mediocre.

The only fringe players that really made me stand up and think, "Okay, there's something here," were Schache, Weightman, West and McNeil. Hopefully the next practice game is more telling as yesterday didn't really clarify the state of the 18-25 players on our list.
 

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Thus far I have.

FB:Williams, Keath, Crozier
HB: Daniel, Cordy, JJ
C: Smith, Bont, Hunter
HF: Dale, Naughton, Cavarra
FF: Wallis, Bruce, English
R: Martin, Macrae, Treloar
Int: Dunkley, Liberatore, VDM, West
Emg: Jong, McNeil, Gardiner, Lipinski

Cordy was poor yesterday but at his best he still is the best 2nd KPD we have. Certainly in that patch of games last season when we conceeded less than 40 points (3-4 games in a row), him and Keath were the combination. Cordy also did injure his ankle in that QF so that may be a reason for the slow start.

Martin massively helped and with Naughton's return English can push behind play more to help protect the defence.

Cavarra imo is the best finisher out of the genuine small forwards (and plays like a small forward) so he gets in (We have plenty of marking types up there (Naughton, English, Bruce, Wallis) so we need a genuine crumber.
 

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Gardner is below average. Cordy is sh*t. There's the difference and the reason I advocate for Gardner over Cordy
Cordy's off-field work and application away from the track to improve his body was severely lacking last year hence his slow start and on the small dose we've had of him this year, looks to be exactly the same story. You can have a body like Jeremy McGovern if you play like Jeremy McGovern. Not if you play like Zane.
 

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Obviously it was a practice game but I was a little disappointed at the output of our fringe players vying for roles in the side.

Jong was poor; involved yet incredibly sloppy in his characteristic way. He's just not a wingman. Dale was...fine, but just hasn't found any ways to get more involved. Lipinski was just Lipinski, clean and racking them up with no concern for his man or for defence whatsoever. Cavarra played like Cavarra - to be honest I would actually have him in the team, but he did nothing differently to when he was overlooked repeatedly last year. Richards was underwhelming in the 2nds in a stacked part of the ground. Young did nothing to reverse my thoughts on him. Cordy was underwhelming in the 2nds. Duryea mediocre.

The only fringe players that really made me stand up and think, "Okay, there's something here," were Schache, Weightman, West and McNeil. Hopefully the next practice game is more telling as yesterday didn't really clarify the state of the 18-25 players on our list.
Fair way off the pace, but I loved Bedendo's game yesterday too
 

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Cordy's off-field work and application away from the track to improve his body was severely lacking last year hence his slow start and on the small dose we've had of him this year, looks to be exactly the same story. You can have a body like Jeremy McGovern if you play like Jeremy McGovern. Not if you play like Zane.
Yeah, why has Cordy retained the same body shape year on year? is it to not bulk up too much and retain speed, or is it just not working hard enough?
 

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Obviously it was a practice game but I was a little disappointed at the output of our fringe players vying for roles in the side.

Jong was poor; involved yet incredibly sloppy in his characteristic way. He's just not a wingman. Dale was...fine, but just hasn't found any ways to get more involved. Lipinski was just Lipinski, clean and racking them up with no concern for his man or for defence whatsoever. Cavarra played like Cavarra - to be honest I would actually have him in the team, but he did nothing differently to when he was overlooked repeatedly last year. Richards was underwhelming in the 2nds in a stacked part of the ground. Young did nothing to reverse my thoughts on him. Cordy was underwhelming in the 2nds. Duryea mediocre.

The only fringe players that really made me stand up and think, "Okay, there's something here," were Schache, Weightman, West and McNeil. Hopefully the next practice game is more telling as yesterday didn't really clarify the state of the 18-25 players on our list.
I agree with most of that,but I thought Duryea was class above his opponents as a small negating defender. Just got the ball a few times by reading it better than anyone else.

Based on yesterday's games I'm not sure we actually lose anything if we swapped Richards and JJ in the senior team.

McNeill was the story of the day, but damn I'd love to find a way to get West into the team.
 

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I agree with most of that,but I thought Duryea was class above his opponents as a small negating defender. Just got the ball a few times by reading it better than anyone else.

Based on yesterday's games I'm not sure we actually lose anything if we swapped Richards and JJ in the senior team.

McNeill was the story of the day, but damn I'd love to find a way to get West into the team.
I do agree that Duryea was a class above but in comparison to those in his position in the firsts, I didn't see anything that made me feel any great need to get him in the side.
 

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I do agree that Duryea was a class above but in comparison to those in his position in the firsts, I didn't see anything that made me feel any great need to get him in the side.
Anthony Scott is no small negating defender. Straight swap there for mine.

Unless your name rhymes with Grengrove, we tend to target mature players for a specific role and play them in the seniors.
I expect Hannan would be best 22 if fit for the same reason.
 

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