Round 1, 2021

[True Dog]

We have a big problem with our forward line next year. Who's going to kick the goals? Bruce isn't. Wallis yes. Naughton isn't. Might be time to move Naughton back and bring in a new forward in the trade period. Just brainstorming.

Why do you think Naughton isn't? He had next to zero preseason and missed a large chunk of this season with his ankle... If we can get the ball in quick he'll be a handfull for defenders.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Were Butler's games more just a taste for his development or is there a feeling he could actually press for your 1sts consistently next year?

He looked decent but we’re absolutely stocked for half backs that I’d be surprised if he locked down a spot consistently.

 

[Dogsman16]

Why do you think Naughton isn't? He had next to zero preseason and missed a large chunk of this season with his ankle... If we can get the ball in quick he'll be a handfull for defenders.

Naughtons goals per game also needs to be factored in. He went off at Qtr time for the Sydney game and Half Time for the Freo game.

He actually missed 5 quarters during games that he was named in. In addition to 6 games missed through injuries and at least 3 games he was underdone (Rd1 - no preseason games due to knee surgery, Rd2 - Had surgery on the knee again during covid break, R11 - Return from ankle surgery).

He's going to be so much better and so much better prepared for 2021.

 

[Dazb86]

Were Butler's games more just a taste for his development or is there a feeling he could actually press for your 1sts consistently next year?

Unsure when it comes to our selection calls. Butler was decent when he had his chance though. We're just stocked for mid sized defenders.

 

[CarnTheScray]

Why do you think Naughton isn't? He had next to zero preseason and missed a large chunk of this season with his ankle... If we can get the ball in quick he'll be a handfull for defenders.

He will kick more next year but who is going to help him do that? Not Bruce, not JUH. I know he's very much had an interrupted season and hasn't been his best, plus he's young and will improve next year but you can't have him as the solo tall forward with 1-in-10 games Bruce. Him and Jamarra will be lethal weapons but not for at least 2 more years. Don't expect Naughton to be our leading goalkicker as long as he gets double-teamed.

Our last two leading goalkickers have been medium forwards. Lloyd who now looks officially cooked, and Wallis who I think will be just as good next year. But who else is kicking the goals besides Naughton and Wallis? I can't name another person.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Slightly different approach to help me solidify my thoughts on both recruitment and selection.

These are the 'pillars' of the side; the players that are locked in for mine:

FB: Williams - Keath - Cordy
HB: X - X - Daniel

C: Smith - Bontempelli - Hunter

HF: Johannisen - X - Vandermeer
FF: Wallis - Naughton - X

R: English - Liberatore - Macrae

I: Crozier - Dunkley - X - X

This leaves:

• 1x HBF.
  • I think in an ideal world this will be one of Wood/Duryea, with the other not playing. At the moment they're both in our best side, as are six other defenders, but if we're looking to play our best possible footy we need to address the clear imbalance in team selection. I find it hard to pick here - I've found Wood extremely inconsistent for a while now, and played a pretty poor final, so I'm tempted to say Duryea is the better option here, now that Williams is playing Wood's traditional role, but it's a tough choice.
• 1x KPD.
  • Currently this place is occupied by Gardner. I'm not averse to playing him in this role again, as he has come a long way, but I'm not completely convinced he's a long-term fix there just yet. I think ideally we should be looking in trade period for a player that's a bit more comfortable one-on-one at a similar or bigger height, but this might not be possible. Other options are Trengove, if still on the list, and Lewis Young, if he improves. Naughton could go back but our forward line is so dysfunctional that it's hard to justify.
• 1x KPF.
  • Currently occupied by Bruce. I still have confidence that Bruce can contribute, but his form this year was quite poor at worst and variable at best. I think we need to consider the possibility that he's not the solution. With JUH coming in, he might put some pressure on - but he's probably not going to smash the door down and I don't really want him being the focal point in a dysfunctional forward line so early on. Schache is the one who should be putting pressure on here, and I'm hopeful that with a clean pre-season he can. I don't think it makes sense to target another key forward, but we need one of ours to start putting some form together.
• 1x FP.
  • The million dollar question - what do we want this forward spot to look like?
  • Do we go for a pressure player/opportunist? In this case, we're looking at Cavarra, or as somebody who leans more on the mid side, West. Garcia might be an option here in time, and the coaches seem to like Richards and Smith, but I'm not convinced.
  • A second ruck? Here we're looking at Sweet or a new recruit.
  • A marking option? Lloyd, Dale, Weightman in time, Jong are some options here.
  • Personally I think we need to up the defensiveness, so Cavarra is my preference here, but I certainly think targeting somebody in this role would be good too. On this year's form Jong could be an option if his body cooperates, which I don't have any faith in unfortunately.
• 2x interchange.
  • With a bench currently consisting of a bulky mid/fwd and an athletic middle defender, I think we need some extra run here for balance. Ideally it's somebody who has a defensive game as well, which rules out Lipinski for mine. In terms of players already on the list, I think Jong and Richards are the two biggest options here, but I'm not sold on either of them for different reasons.
  • And lastly - a real second ruck. This is tough because I don't think they're on our list yet. I'm hopeful that Sweet comes on but it sounds like he's a while away from contributing. In an ideal world this player is mobile and able to contribute to some extent defensively...but I don't really know who's out there, and on top of that it doesn't seem like Beveridge wants this. So my ideal would be a second ruck here, but if that's out of the question I would probably go for another forward/mid.

So I suppose that leaves this as my preference:
FB: Williams - Keath - Cordy
HB: Duryea/Wood - Recruit KPD/Gardner - Daniel

C: Smith - Bontempelli - Hunter

HF: Johannisen - Bruce/Schache/JUH - Vandermeer
FF: Wallis - Naughton - Recruit FP/Cavarra/JUH

R: English - Liberatore - Macrae

I: Crozier - Dunkley - Jong/Richards/Recruit runner - Recruit ruck/Richards

 

[TommyD13]

Just the way the team has been thrown around with no real consistency I have no idea where to start for how I would like us to line up, but I will give it a go. Not going to assume any arrivals just to be certain.

FB: Wood, Naughton, Keath
HB: Williams, Cordy, Crozier

FOL: English, Bontempelli, Dunkley
C: Hunter, Macrae, Daniel

HF: Wallis, Schache/Le. Young, Dale
FF: Cavarra, Bruce, Johannisen

INT: B. Smith, Liberatore, Vandermeer, Duryea

Cavarra and Johannisen to be pressure forwards. Schache or Lewy Young to lead up the ground and create space, Wallis and Dale to be lead up medium forwards. Bruce to swap with English about 70/30. Bruce slimming down, English bulking up. Daniel to be delivering inside 50 instead of exiting the back 50. Vandermeer to essentially roam free and get as much of the ball in space as possible.

 

[Royal Doulton]

In: Tarrant, P.Wright, Z.Merrett, J.Ugle-Hagen, S.Stack
Out: Johannisen, Suckling, Schache, Trengrove, Jong, Gowers, Dickson, Lynch, Greene, Porter


FB: Wood, Tarrant, Crozier
HB: Daniel, Keath, Williams

FOL: English, Bontempelli, Smith
C: Hunter, Macrae, Merrett

HF: Liberatore, Naughton, Dunkley
FF: Wallis, P.Wright, J.Ugle-Hagen

INT: Lipinski, Vandermeer, Stack, Richards
EM: Bruce, Cordy, West, Dale, Duryea

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[_Mike_]

Slightly different approach to help me solidify my thoughts on both recruitment and selection.

I think Astro’s more suited to a CHF position due to his athleticism and ability to play up the ground, which he’s done on a few occasions now. I can’t fault Astro for the year he’s had because of the problems with injuries and the dysfunctional setup.

 

[Mutt]

I think Astro’s more suited to a CHF position due to his athleticism and ability to play up the ground, which he’s done on a few occasions now. I can’t fault Astro for the year he’s had because of the problems with injuries and the dysfunctional setup.

Agree Mike - if Bevo moves Naughton back, my opinion will shift from fairly sceptical to absolutely hostile towards Beveridge.

 

[Libba39]

FB: Keath Cordy Crozier
HB: Williams Wood Johannisen
C: Treloar Dunkley Macrae
HF: Smith Bruce Vandermeer
FF: Wallis Naughton English
RUC: Martin Bontempelli Liberatore

INT: Daniel Gardner Dureya Hunter

Honestly don't know where to put all these guys, so I guess that's a good problem.

 

[Dogsman16]

Well our midfield is ****ing nuts.

FB: Crozier, Keath, Wood
HB: Daniel, Cordy, Williams
C: Smith, Dunkley, Hunter
HF: Bontempelli, Naughton, Liberatore,
FF: Bruce/JUH, English, Wallis
R: Martin, Treloar, Macrae
Int: JJ, VDM, Jong, Hannan
Emg: Duryea, JUH/Bruce, Lipinski.

Probs forget someone. Midfield depth is unreal.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

FB: Williams Keath Duryea
HB: Daniel Cordy Crozier
C: Treloar Macrae Hunter
HF: Smith Bruce Dunkley
FF: English Naughton Wallis
R: Martin Bontempelli Liberatore
INT: Johannisen Wood JUH Garcia

 

[Optimistic Dog]

FB: Keath Cordy Crozier
HB: Williams Wood Johannisen
C: Treloar Dunkley Macrae
HF: Smith Bruce Vandermeer
FF: Wallis Naughton English
RUC: Martin Bontempelli Liberatore

INT: Daniel Gardner Dureya Hunter

Honestly don't know where to put all these guys, so I guess that's a good problem.

No room for Jamarra

 

[Snarls Barkley]

No idea how we fit all the mids in but I'm excited as hell to see how it goes. Backing you in Bevo!

B: Wood, Naughton, Crozier
HB: Daniel, Keath, Johannisen

R: Martin, Dunkley, Bontempelli
C: B. Smith, Macrae, Hunter

HF: Vandermeer, English, Hannan
F: Wallis, Bruce, Ugle-Hagan

I: Williams, Treloar, Liberatore, Weightman/West

My structure would be 7 defenders, 6 forwards, 2 rucks and 7 midfielders. Smith might have to play as a full time winger opposite to Hunter with Treloar, Macrae and maybe others having little stints out there.

Think its too early to send Naughton back (I'd like to see how he goes forward with a full preseason and an uninterrupted year) but can't see how the forward line works with two key forwards and two ruckman and no great ground pressure players. Hoping we see a lot of Weightman and West next season to try and nail down one of the small forward positions.

 

[TMoney22]

Scores are even, 2mins to go. Which 4 take the centre bounce?

 

[Libba39]

No room for Jamarra

Not unless he puts on 15 kegs during pre-season

 

[Golden_6]

Scores are even, 2mins to go. Which 4 take the centre bounce?

Bont, Macrae, Libba for me.

 

[TommyD13]

Scores are even, 2mins to go. Which 4 take the centre bounce?

Bont, Libba, Smith for me

 

[Gollo]

Scores are even, 2mins to go. Which 4 take the centre bounce?

Martin, Macrae, Bont, Treloar.

If the ball goes anywhere near Macrae you get a clearance one way or another - best hands in the league, been saying it for 5 years. Bont and Treloar known quantities.

Dunkley and Libba up forward.

 

[cecil]

FB: Duryea, Keath, Crozier
HB: Daniel, Cordy, JJ
C: Treloar, Macrae, Hunter
HF: VDM, Naughton, Richards
FF: Wallis, Bruce, Hannan
R: Martin, Libba, Bont
Int: Williams, Dunkley, Smith, English

Emerg: Wood, JUH, West, Gardner/Young

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

Williams - Keath - Crozier
Daniel - Cordy - Richards
Hunter - Dunkley - Treloar
Hannan - Naughton - Bont
Wallis - Bruce - English
Martin - Liber - Macrae

Duryea, Smith, Wood, JJ

 

[fronkalicious]

FB: Williams Keath Crozier
HB: JJ Naughton Richards
C: Daniel Macrae Hunter
HF: Bontempelli English JUH
FF: Wallis Schache Weightman
R: Martin Treloar Smith
IC: Dunkley, Libba, Duryea, Vandermeer


Missing out:

Wood
Cordy
Hannan
Lipinski
West
Dale
Bruce

I ain’t picking Bruce until he proves he can train and play like a professional at the dogs.

Bonti has to play more forward. I’m keen on that.

Daniel to the midfield.

Richards to half back.

Easy enough to bring in Cordy or wood for a runner (Duryea, Richards, Vandermeer) if we’re playing a big forward line.

 

[Regista]

I'm surprised to see Bruce is still in most teams in this thread.

 

[Mojorisin]

Fb. Wood keath Williams
Hb. Daniel cordy crozier
C. Treloar bont Hunter
Hf. VDM Bruce hannan
Ff. Wallis naughton jamarra
R. English macrea dunkley
Int. B.smith libba jj Martin

English gets a 40/40/20 ruck/fwd/int
Martin 60/40 ruck/int
Libba 60/40 mid/int
Dunkley 60/20/20 mid/fwd/int
JJ and Daniel can float across all the lines depending on tags
All of bont macrea treloar b.smith can swap inside/outside mid