Prediction ROUND 1 2023 - Pick your best team

[Kane McGoodwin]

Hi all - do you give Tyler Brown any chance of playing senior footy this year?

He appears to be on our fringe, so I suspect he will play some games.

Probably behind Crouch as next inside midfielder in, but we may use him against taller midfielders like Cripps.

 

[martyparty]

Hi all - do you give Tyler Brown any chance of playing senior footy this year?

Yep, certainly do. He went alright in our two winning preseason matches and was in our starting 26 for the comprehensive win against West Coast. I’m sure Nicksy has some roles in mind for him, even if initially it is as a utility player.

 

[Barneythecrab]

A back line of Murray, Keane (once fit) and Dawson, would have to be one of the most uncomfortable group of defenders for forwards to go up against. They will be dishing out some serious physical pain.

 

[AFC979810]

My ideal lineup:

F Rachele Fogarty McAdam
HF Rankine Walker Thilthorpe
C Dawson Berry Soligo
HB Milera Murray Smith
B Max Michalanney Butts Doedeee
RUCK O'Brien Laird Schoenberg
INTER Sloane Pedlar Keays Hinge (Sholl)

EMG: Jones, Murphy, Crouch, Hately

Here is how I think we line up:

AFL
F Rachele Fogarty McAdam
HF Pedlar Walker Keays
C Dawson Berry Soligo
HB Milera Murray Smith
B Doedee Butts Parnell
RUCK O'Brien Laird Rankine
INTER Sloane, Himmelburg, Hinge Schoenberg (Brown)

Emg: McHenry, Jones, Murphy, TT, Mad Max.

 

[AFC979810]

Our rebuild was completed prior to last season, so unfortunately, this is our contending group.

So we aren't drafting anyone in 2023 or trading or bringing any Free Agents in?

 

[Thylacinus]

The make up of the final team is by and large now clear. I post what I think the 22 will be below, and the most likely sub. Above is what I posted in early December. Four listed there are unlikely to make the team for the first round. They are Worrell (inj); Thilthorpe; Jones and Hamill. I was surprised at how close that is to the likely round 1 team when I revisited that team from p13 of this thread a few moments ago. Here is what I think the round 1 team is likely to be:


B: Parnell - Butts - Doedee
HB: Smith - Murray - Dawson
C: Hinge - Berry - Sloane
HF: McAdam - Walker - Rachele
F: Pedlar - Fogarty - Rankine
R: ROB - Laird - Soligo

I/C: Himmelberg - Keays - Milera - Schoenberg.

Sub (in descending order of likelihood) T Brown; Michalanney; Crouch. If the selectors want another tallish defender then it could be Milera to sub and Michalanney into the 22. Crouch didn't do his chances any harm, quickly racking up possessions when he came on, and obviously has worked much more on what to do with it when he gets it.

I have given this a bit of further thought and reflection, especially since watching a fair bit of the GWS v Suns game Saturday arvo. GWS have a fair bit of height and certainly talent up forward, so Michalaney into the 22 as a dour, lock-down defender who can also play on smaller types if necessary. In fact I would love to see his close checking frustrate the heck out of Toby Greene. Milera then to sub (assuming he is OK). The team would then look as follows:

B: Parnell - Butts - Doedee
HB: Smith - Murray - Dawson
C: Hinge - Berry - Sloane
HF: McAdam - Walker - Rachele
F: Pedlar - Fogarty - Rankine
R: ROB - Laird - Soligo

I/C: Himmelberg - Keays - Michalanney - Schoenberg.

Sub: Milera

 

[crows dude]

I have given this a bit of further thought and reflection, especially since watching a fair bit of the GWS v Suns game Saturday arvo. GWS have a fair bit of height and certainly talent up forward, so Michalaney into the 22 as a dour, lock-down defender who can also play on smaller types if necessary. In fact I would love to see his close checking frustrate the heck out of Toby Greene. Milera then to sub (assuming he is OK). The team would then look as follows:

B: Parnell - Butts - Doedee
HB: Smith - Murray - Dawson
C: Hinge - Berry - Sloane
HF: McAdam - Walker - Rachele
F: Pedlar - Fogarty - Rankine
R: ROB - Laird - Soligo

I/C: Himmelberg - Keays - Michalanney - Schoenberg.

Sub: Milera

Yeh looks right to me. May Schoenberg starts and soligo to bench.

 

[crow2crow]

I have given this a bit of further thought and reflection, especially since watching a fair bit of the GWS v Suns game Saturday arvo. GWS have a fair bit of height and certainly talent up forward, so Michalaney into the 22 as a dour, lock-down defender who can also play on smaller types if necessary. In fact I would love to see his close checking frustrate the heck out of Toby Greene. Milera then to sub (assuming he is OK). The team would then look as follows:

B: Parnell - Butts - Doedee
HB: Smith - Murray - Dawson
C: Hinge - Berry - Sloane
HF: McAdam - Walker - Rachele
F: Pedlar - Fogarty - Rankine
R: ROB - Laird - Soligo

I/C: Himmelberg - Keays - Michalanney - Schoenberg.

Sub: Milera

i dont see a match up for parnell and would prefer to see milera on field

they are going to be very tall in forward line i posted about this too. pity keane hasnt been training with the squad a bit longer just for this week.

 

[croweater 41]

From Jon Ralph. I'll admit I haven't seen a lick of pre season so I am only going by reputation but obviously Berg has found 3 more gears this pre-season?

ADELAIDE’S PREDICTED 23

B: B. Smith, J. Butts, T. Doedee

HB: W. Milera, N. Murray, J. Dawson

C: M. Hinge, J. Rachele, R. Sloane

HF: B. Keays, E. Himmelberg, D. Fogarty

F: I. Rankine, T. Walker, S. McAdam

FOLL: R. O’Brien, S. Berry, R. Laird

I/C: P. Parnell, H. Schoenberg, J. Soligo, L. Pedlar

Sub: M. Michalanney

Notable absentees: J. Worrell (hamstring), R. Thilthorpe, M. Crouch, L. Murphy, N. McHenry

Jon Ralph’s selection dilemmas: No.2 overall draft pick Riley Thilthorpe will play a ruck-forward role this year but was squeezed out of the side that was so impressive against West Coast so Elliott Himmelberg

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Elliott Himmelberg

Age

25

Ht

199cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.4

2star

K

5.1

2star

HB

4.3

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.0

4star

D

5.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

2star

G

0.0

1star

D

11.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.2

4star

will surely get the nod against GWS.

First-round pick Max Michalanney played 79 per cent game time in the Eagles clash but will likely be displaced by the returning Wayne Milera

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Wayne Milera

Age

26

Ht

184cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.9

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.8

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.5

4star

MG

265.3

4star

D

15.0

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

3.5

3star

T

1.0

2star

MG

282.0

4star

D

11.4

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.4

4star

MG

182.0

3star

.

Jake Soligo is a certainty to keep his spot too after 15 composed disposals from 68 per cent game time including eight centre-bounces.

Matt Crouch

5

Matt Crouch

Age

29

Ht

183cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.4

5star

K

12.0

4star

HB

16.4

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.8

5star

D

24.9

5star

K

9.7

4star

HB

15.1

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

2.0

4star

racked up nine disposals from a single quarter but he’s just not in Matthew Nicks

Matthew Nicks

Age

48

Ht

187cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.2

3star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.7

4star

G

0.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

6.6

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.2

3star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.4

3star

’ round 1 plans. Pedlar is keeping out McHenry and Murphy.

 

[martyparty]

From Jon Ralph. I'll admit I haven't seen a lick of pre season so I am only going by reputation but obviously Berg has found 3 more gears this pre-season?

I realise sub is now tactical, but I still don’t think it’s a good place to debut a young player. Max needs a full game of footy, preferably in the As, if not the SANFL. We’ve got plenty of utilities we can use as a sub.
As for Berg, as well as his forward stuff (in the Weagles match) I didn’t mind him when he did some rucking at stoppages even in the back half.

 

[Golumless]

From Jon Ralph. I'll admit I haven't seen a lick of pre season so I am only going by reputation but obviously Berg has found 3 more gears this pre-season?

I wouldn't go that far. Had a solid hitout v Freo and an almost game against West Coast.

Himm does seem in front of Thithorpe, but really, I can't see how this isn't a repeat of last year. Thilthorpe is just too advanced for the SANFL for it to be a league for him to gain anything out of, unless we're dumb enough to think he's a ruck.

Unfortunately, this club has a proud history of that.

 

[martyparty]

I have given this a bit of further thought and reflection, especially since watching a fair bit of the GWS v Suns game Saturday arvo. GWS have a fair bit of height and certainly talent up forward, so Michalaney into the 22 as a dour, lock-down defender who can also play on smaller types if necessary. In fact I would love to see his close checking frustrate the heck out of Toby Greene. Milera then to sub (assuming he is OK). The team would then look as follows:

B: Parnell - Butts - Doedee
HB: Smith - Murray - Dawson
C: Hinge - Berry - Sloane
HF: McAdam - Walker - Rachele
F: Pedlar - Fogarty - Rankine
R: ROB - Laird - Soligo

I/C: Himmelberg - Keays - Michalanney - Schoenberg.

Sub: Milera

You’re right about the height requirements for the GWS game (after all.. they are Giants ), so surprised you’re starting Parnell in the back pocket instead of Michalanney.

 

[ADL9798]

FB: Parnell Butts Doedee
HB: Smith Murray Hinge

R: O'Brien Laird Schoenberg
C: Soligo Berry Dawson

HF: Keays Walker Rachele
FF: Rankine Fogarty Thilthorpe

Int: Sloane Pedlar Milera McAdam

 

[crows dude]

FB: Parnell Butts Doedee
HB: Smith Murray Hinge

R: O'Brien Laird Schoenberg
C: Soligo Berry Dawson

HF: Keays Walker Rachele
FF: Rankine Fogarty Thilthorpe

Int: Sloane Pedlar Milera McAdam

Pretty Much right i think

Add Max to make it 23. Berg probably ahead based on pre season form of Thilthorpe

 

[Macca48]

I like the look of afl.com’s predicted 22 - with Michalanney starting on the bench and Milera as the sub.

 

[rabidcrow]

rebuilds target gun mids, we haven't yet. My issue is that McAsey, Gooch and Jones is too many first pick misses to have a successful rebuild. Plus injury has turned Milera into a C grader based upon his return last year. Adding 3 picks around the 10 mark over the next 3 years will anchor us to the bottom part of the top 8. Hopefully Pedlar becomes an A grader and either or both Rankine and Rachele become elite mids, but it's very much hope they can transition at the moment. Bit I can't see this group competing around the top 4 without 2 elite mids being added to the group and I'm not sure how we do that climbing to 8th this year and staying there for a few years.

I agree with you that we have missed so many first rounders our rebuild is at risk

We do have options on our list that may get there - as you highlight - but alternatively we probably need to trade for one

I think we have enough options that we just need a star to lead us in the midfield rather than two but fair enough to have a difference of opinion

Our list - if we improve our backline and get a ruckman - I think can push to top 4. Having a star mid would put us as a genuine contender. I still see Rachele in this role - a Robbie Gray level mid when he builds his tank


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[AFC979810]

will probably get two games right at end of the year once the heat is out of the season.

Max is in!

 

[Thylacinus]

Without getting too hung up on particular positions, it looks like the 23 will be as follows, with either Milera or Parnell as sub (unless Brown's debut is as a sub)?

B: Michalanney - Butts - Doedee
HB: Smith - Murray - Dawson
C: Hinge - Berry - Sloane
HF: McAdam - Walker - Rachele
F: Pedlar - Fogarty - Rankine
R: ROB - Laird - Soligo

I/C: Brown - Himmelberg - Keays - Milera - Parnell.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Without getting too hung up on particular positions, it looks like the 23 will be as follows, with either Milera or Parnell as sub (unless Brown's debut is as a sub)?

B: Michalanney - Butts - Doedee
HB: Smith - Murray - Dawson
C: Hinge - Berry - Sloane
HF: McAdam - Walker - Rachele
F: Pedlar - Fogarty - Rankine
R: ROB - Laird - Soligo

I/C: Brown - Himmelberg - Keays - Milera - Parnell.

no Schoenberg?

 

[Thylacinus]

no Schoenberg?

Apparently not according to very recent comments from the club.

 

[George Kramer]

Apparently not according to very recent comments from the club.

The club? When and what was said?

 

[Thylacinus]

The club? When and what was said?

Fair question. I will rephrase. Rumors surrounding the club. However, considering the official confirmation that Michalanney will debut and some fairly reasoanble reasons to believe Tyler Brown will also debut, someone has to give way. I have liked Schoenberg's preseason, but we can't play everyone who is in the mix. I personally would have him in the mix for sub which atm to me seems like being between Milera, Parnell and Schoenberg. Of the three, one to make the team, one to sub and one to miss. Of course I may be wrong, just calling it as I see it by connecting the dots.

 

[crow2crow]

Apparently not according to very recent comments from the club.

nah schoey for brown

Thilthorpe surprise sub

 

[George Kramer]

Fair question. I will rephrase. Rumors surrounding the club. However, considering the official confirmation that Michalannthey will debut and some fairly reasoanble reasons to believe Tyler Brown will also debut, someone has to give way. I have liked Schoenberg's preseason, but we can't play everyone who is in the mix. I personally would have him in the mix for sub which atm to me seems like being between Milera, Parnell and Schoenberg. Of the three, one to make the team, one to sub and one to miss. Of course I may be wrong, just calling it as I see it by connecting the dots.

Brown will be sub, if they make Shoey sub then Nicks has lost the plot. I’m not going down that path yet as I think there’s a bit of jumping at shadows.

 

[crow2crow]

Brown will be sub, if they make Shoey sub then Nicks has lost the plot. I’m not going down that path yet as I think there’s a bit of jumping at shadows.

Milera might be sub

Was just watching the gws game from last year

Their big body mids smashed us. Now admittedly two of them arent there anymore but they still have Green and Callaghan. Problem is I cant see Brown doing much against them.