Autopsy Round 1, 2025: Hawks shoot down Bombers

[VandoHawk]

Having an extra number around the clearances can help for generating good quality clearances or winning a couple extra.

It doesn’t explain us getting smashed like we were. It would probably be close to the worst stoppage clearance differential of all time. Plenty of teams have played with one less around the ball and not been nearly beaten as convincingly in clearances.

It was great the team still got the win but winning will be a whole lot harder if we keep dishing that up around stoppages.

I'm prepared to write it off as an anomaly given we smashed the Swans midfield last week and have indexed heavily into winning the ground ball. Perhaps playing into a completely fresh side after a hard slog in wet Sydney conditions left the boys a bit sore.

Interestingly, Essendon have beaten us in clearances + contested possessions in every game across the last four years. Something about their midfield matches up well against us. In all those games, they also beat us in the tackle department all but once.

Only other team that has smacked us to that level across that period is Gold Coast when we play them over there.

 

[Snoref]

That’s total rubbish that last bit / sorry. Blame the victim + the eggshell rule being completely ignored. It’s fingers down a blackboard for me

egg shell argues liability, im not argue he isn't liable for the concussion but severity of the impact.. your missing my point

 

[Snoref]

You could argue that, but it would be a stupid argument.

The incidents are not remotely similar or comparable and have no reason to be compared.

If you don't compare outcomes how do you compare force?

Both incidents are graded the same ie. high, careless and severe- if they are graded the same how can the outcomes be so different?

 

[KermitJagger]

Must admit, no idea why we bothered challenging the Scrimshaw verdict.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

They definitely weren’t shit. We were just smarter and more resilient

But I don't think they have another gear.

if they do that well on all the effort statistics and still lose - they should be very concerned about where they're at as a club.

Which pleases me because I hate them.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

Must admit, no idea why we bothered challenging the Scrimshaw verdict.

We are so bad at challenging and getting an adjusted outcome.

 

[KermitJagger]

We are so bad at challenging and getting an adjusted outcome.

We certainly have been recently. Even if we had Carlton's ring ins I don't reckon we'd have gotten him less.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

We certainly have been recently. Even if we had Carlton's ring ins I don't reckon we'd have gotten him less.

Yeh - I think we've seen enough of Scrimshaw to know this is an outlier and he's got absolutely no malice about him.

I feel like 3 weeks is a week too many but I think we just need to accept this one.

 

[cryptor]

Must admit, no idea why we bothered challenging the Scrimshaw verdict.

Well we did discover from the verdict reasoning that a concussion doesn’t automatically mean impact has to be severe. But it was in this case.

Agreed that this one wasn’t really worth challenging considering how it looked.

 

[KermitJagger]

Well we did discover from the verdict reasoning that a concussion doesn’t automatically mean impact has to be severe. But it was in this case.

Agreed that this one wasn’t really worth challenging considering how it looked.

That's not really a discovery, has been used by the AFL in explanations in the past.

 

[cryptor]

That's not really a discovery, has been used by the AFL in explanations in the past.

It's a discovery for a lot on bigfooty who've been repeating it the last few days.

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[KermitJagger]

It's a discovery for a lot on bigfooty who've been repeating it the last few days.

BigFooty posters are like ragebait goldfish

 

[Hawkas1988]

For those interested, the votes in the Yabby have been finalised for the week. The running Leaderboard is in the Yabby thread too.

Round 1: Votes v Essendon

5. Karl Amon
4. Dylan Moore
3. James Sicily
2. Nick Watson
1. Mabior Chol