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Prediction Round 1 Changes vs. Geelong

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My guess for the team though I would really like Simpson in over Worner if I could.

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I'm sure I've missed someone again...
Honestly don’t mind not having cox I don’t rate Shannon Neale at all so having an under done Pearce and omac isn’t the end of the world. Chappy to Jcam, Walker to Dangerfield when he’s fwd Mcvee to close

Wouldn’t be against Wagner tagging and following Dempsey everywhere too
 

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I’d take out Darcy for Mason Cox, Simpson for Worner and Young takes O’Meara’s place
I am sure that Simpson is not ready just yet.Maybe a couple of weeks away.
And I heard one of the experts say on radio the other day that Davies has gone ahead of McDonald.
 
JL just said that if Pearce gets through training he'll play whereas with Ryan it's "a bit more based on selection" stating there are others in good form. Bit of an unknown with Geelong's forward line etc.

Again said unlikely to go with two rucks plus Jacko, and said a debutant is a chance but there's a lot of small forwards in good form.

No mention of Young so hoping there's no concern
Based on not selecting a fatty?
 
FB: Worner Pearce Chapman
HB: McVee Ryan McDonald Clark
C: Erasmus Brayshaw JOM
HF: Switta Treacy Reid
FF: Amiss Voss Bolton
FOL: Jackson Serong Young
INT: Darcy Walker Johnson Wagner Banfield

Ryan/Chapman can play on Cameron, remembering he is coming off an interrupted preseason for game 1 as well. Plus I think the extra run in the backline will do us well.

EDIT: After listening to Luke's segment on 6PR, I don't think Ryan will play. I think McDonald will come in, although I think I would prefer to see Davies.
 
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I cannot understand the push for Davies. We need to be trying our best to win this game and right now OMac and Draper both bring more than him. He could well be considered if Pearce went down but to have two lockdown only KPDs with average disposal and in Davies case no second fiddle, is not smart. Davies could well become a decent, AFL quality player but he has not there yet.
 
One player who will be in there, Wagner...
Don't miss this great opportunity.

 
The Ryan situation is intriguing.

From the outside, I would have said he's one of JL's favourites, but that may not be the case anymore. There's always been questions about his conditioning so I doubt that's too much of an issue now...unless he's turned into the Michelin man and I haven't heard any of our track watchers say too much in that regard.

If he's not a walk up starter in the 23 then what's happened? Is it just a simple case of the baton slowly being passed on or is there more to the story?
It seems apparent from JL’s vague comments that Ryan is doing (or not doing) something that JL is unhappy about. Could be to do with attitude or fitness standards, it’s hard to tell from the outside.

It’s seems pretty obvious that at face value he should be ahead of some others (eg Worner) for a spot in defence. Core defence is Pearce, Cox, Ryan and Clark - hopefully McVee will add to that.
 

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I would be pumping games into Draper over Davies. Honestly don't see what people see in him. He is ok in one on ones but that is about it, am I missing something?
Davies isn’t up to WAFL standards at time. His ceiling is limited. Draper all the way for me
 
It seems apparent from JL’s vague comments that Ryan is doing (or not doing) something that JL is unhappy about. Could be to do with attitude or fitness standards, it’s hard to tell from the outside.

It’s seems pretty obvious that at face value he should be ahead of some others (eg Worner) for a spot in defence. Core defence is Pearce, Cox, Ryan and Clark - hopefully McVee will add to that.
Tbh he has always been borderline suspect with his ‘weigh’. He’s not the best trainer but players get away with it.
He’s needed still. Worner v Ryan? No brainer. Ryan has to play.

Defence is looking awfully shaky. Unless midfield dominate centre clearances, Geelong use their marking game. It’ll get ugly
 
Got a "selection rumours" story on my fb feed that basically says half the team is cooked. lol

Duds in for Freddy, no Murray
No Youngy
AP may still not play ,Ryan to fly as emergency
JOM out, Noddy to come in
Darcy limited minutes no Cox
etc etc
 
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Got a "selection rumours" story on my fb feed that basically says half the team is cooked. lol

Duds in for Freddy, no Murray
No Youngy
AP me still not play
JOM out
Darcy limited minutes no Cox
etc etc
It is never ideal to miss players from your best side, and multiple players missing can have a cumulative effect.

BUT:
  • Dudley/Murray for Frederick is a minor downgrade.
  • Pearce will play, but handling Geelong's tall forwards is manageable even by our 3 second string options if required.
  • JOM out is no dramas.
  • if Darcy is in then that's a good thing, but this scenario is exactly what Cox is on the list for, and against Geelong should be a winning move.

Geelong absolutely require Dangerfield and Cameron to be in their side and playing well. I doubt if that will be the case.
 
It is never ideal to miss players from your best side, and multiple players missing can have a cumulative effect.

BUT:
  • Dudley/Murray for Frederick is a minor downgrade.
  • Pearce will play, but handling Geelong's tall forwards is manageable even by our 3 second string options if required.
  • JOM out is no dramas.
  • if Darcy is in then that's a good thing, but this scenario is exactly what Cox is on the list for, and against Geelong should be a winning move.

Geelong absolutely require Dangerfield and Cameron to be in their side and playing well. I doubt if that will be the case.
also...(apologies in advance to noise36 because they're only stating what appeared on their feed, but) "heard it off my FB feed" isn't exactly a great source of comfort concerning getting the truth now
 
It is never ideal to miss players from your best side, and multiple players missing can have a cumulative effect.

BUT:
  • Dudley/Murray for Frederick is a minor downgrade.
  • Pearce will play, but handling Geelong's tall forwards is manageable even by our 3 second string options if required.
  • JOM out is no dramas.
  • if Darcy is in then that's a good thing, but this scenario is exactly what Cox is on the list for, and against Geelong should be a winning move.

Geelong absolutely require Dangerfield and Cameron to be in their side and playing well. I doubt if that will be the case.
Personally I think Duds or Murray for Frederick is a big down grade.
One with a huge difference in speed and ability to cover ground, and the other hasn't even done a full AFL pre-season let alone played a game.

Freddie doesn't have to be your favourite player but there does appear to be a lot of under-rating of him, and course perennial over-rating of new draftees.
The vast, vast majority of them will not be a Daicos or Reid in their first season, and the majority of them won't even be good.

Having said all that someone like Murray can be successful coming in if filling a role, but we'll be relying more on Switta and even potentially more forward time for Reid if we have to.
 
Personally I think Duds or Murray for Frederick is a big down grade.
One with a huge difference in speed and ability to cover ground, and the other hasn't even done a full AFL pre-season let alone played a game.

Freddie doesn't have to be your favourite player but there does appear to be a lot of under-rating of him, and course perennial over-rating of new draftees.
The vast, vast majority of them will not be a Daicos or Reid in their first season, and the majority of them won't even be good.

Having said all that someone like Murray can be successful coming in if filling a role, but we'll be relying more on Switta and even potentially more forward time for Reid if we have to.
Saying Dudley can replace Frederick shows a complete lack of understanding of the role he plays for the team tbh.

I am not saying Dudley is a spud but he's not a great runner (Frederick is) and is a forward pocket rather than HFF. Then there's the height difference. Outside both technically being forwards they aren't similar in any way.

Murray is a lot more suited to filling in for Frederick as he's way more suited to a HFF role due to running ability.

Playing Dudley to replace Frederick would require us to shift a heap of other magnets around. For that reason I think they go with Murray or even Scerri.

And yes Frederick is super underrated on here. Any opposition supporter that comes on here is literally like - "WTF are guys on about, wish he played for my team". He's not a top ten player on our list but is top 25 in pretty much every squad in the AFL.
 
I think Murray plays. I would give Scerri a start too if there’s room.

Assuming Switta plays, with Frederick out I think can you fit all in.

Murray Treacy Switta
Scerri Amiss Voss

Bolton, Reid part of the 5 man bench with both rotating through the middle. (Probably both start and Scerri and Murray start on bench)

Biggest concern would be the lack of goals from Scerri and Switta. Even at VFL level, Scerri was not a noted goal kicker.

It is pity Kickett or Sweid are not ready, as I feel they are the type of forward that would complement the rest. Need to find away to get some goals from the smalls
 
I'm not suggesting Dudley or Murray play Frederick's role. You don't always have like for like replacements. But coaching is about getting the best out of what is available.

If the mindset is a player like Frederick (one of my favourites) is irreplaceable then just pack the season up right now, sack the coach, start the rebuild.
 

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